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 Mikael
 
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 Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: stonefury71]
#8701080 - 07/30/08 07:01 AM (4 months, 4 days ago) |
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First one, I see if this works out for me.
These ones are coming from the Finland in north Europe. I am pretty sure they are Pan. Subbs. Spore print came out as black/ purple black. Habitat area is a horse stable. I have found these in this summer about 2500-3000 shrooms. Im sorry if my language is hursh to read, but english is not my origin language. Maybe I post some more of pics. If these are right ones.
Ps. This is my first post, and I must say this is one cool looking site!
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landsnorkler
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Mikael]
#8701223 - 07/30/08 08:27 AM (4 months, 4 days ago) |
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They don't look like subbalteatus. I'd say they are probably an inactive psilocybe, along the lines of Psilocybe coprophila. Keep lookin!
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Mikael
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: landsnorkler]
#8701297 - 07/30/08 09:01 AM (4 months, 4 days ago) |
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Some more of pics.
I forgot to tell you that caps in some shrooms are about 6cm large. And these change color, when its wet they are more darken shade color. These are more light, course its been warm and sunny week so far.
And most of these have that ring going around the cap. Not seeing these pics. (?)
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Mikael]
#8701310 - 07/30/08 09:12 AM (4 months, 4 days ago) |
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Psilocybe coprophilia, not subbs. The stems are to white and i see no lines on the stem. Also the cap color is off, to yellow in sum.
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Mikael
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8701361 - 07/30/08 09:32 AM (4 months, 4 days ago) |
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Thank for the answers!
I am still wondering that does Psilocybe coprophilia grow only in dung?
These grow near to dung, but not in to dung.
These photos arent so good, I think. Shrooms look a bit different in eyesight.
(But anyways there are still uo coming libertycaps season...)
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Mikael]
#8701365 - 07/30/08 09:33 AM (4 months, 4 days ago) |
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Psilocybe coprophilia grows on dung and around it, i have found it before in well fertilized pastures no were near dung.
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 AgentClaret
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8702078 - 07/30/08 12:38 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Some picks from Michigan today...
No rain lately, but there's a new, well-watered sod lawn in a neighborhood by my college, and these were popping today.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: AgentClaret]
#8702216 - 07/30/08 01:05 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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super nice beefy specimen....nice job!
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El Zorro
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Mikael]
#8702622 - 07/30/08 02:28 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
Mikael said:
First one, I see if this works out for me.
These ones are coming from the Finland in north Europe. I am pretty sure they are Pan. Subbs. Spore print came out as black/ purple black. Habitat area is a horse stable. I have found these in this summer about 2500-3000 shrooms. Im sorry if my language is hursh to read, but english is not my origin language. Maybe I post some more of pics. If these are right ones.
Ps. This is my first post, and I must say this is one cool looking site!
These look like some kind Stropharia similar to Riparia.
I see some veil remnants on some of the cap margins.
However Riparia is a North American species.
Was there woodchips in the stable? Or lots of straw?
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landsnorkler
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: El Zorro]
#8703242 - 07/30/08 04:36 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Looks like they're growing out of dung to me, in the 3rd picture down. I still think they're Psilocybe coprophila or something similar.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: landsnorkler]
#8703440 - 07/30/08 05:21 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Yeah, those do look like coprophilia somewhat.
That's why I was referring to the other picture. Those look different to me. Some have a slight ring around the stem and some have veil fragments hanging from the margins. Also the gills look closer in the picture of the ones in the tupperware.
Could all be the same thing though.
By the way, I'm not saying they were S. Riparia but they look similar.
Definately Psilocybe / Stropharia of some sort.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: El Zorro]
#8705904 - 07/31/08 03:09 AM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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My Subbalteatus Guide (revised edition with new pictures)
http://www.shroomery.org/9608/Subbedhunter420s-Guide-to-Hunting-and-Identifying-Panaeolus-subbalteatus
You should read it.
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Mikael
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8706256 - 07/31/08 06:47 AM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Thanks for everyone who has answer to me.
I will throw these ones away.
(Sorry for the off topic)
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El Zorro
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8706580 - 07/31/08 09:46 AM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
Subbedhunter420 said:
This definitely fitd the description of ps. coprophila.
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Psilocybe_coprophila.html
They seem to fit other than the size. I haven't seen Coprophilia any bigger than about 1 inch in width or so. The ones in the tupperware appear to be well over two inches in width. Also many of the caps were plane which only happens sometimes in coprophilia if I understand correctly. Also the colors were not as dark brown as the coprophilia that I have seen.
I am not arguing the ID.
I guess they could get more than twice the size in Finland than they do here. And more plane and lighter in color than the ones i have seen.
But anyway, sorry to veer off track.
As for the Subbs, they have completely stalled around here. Even thought the temps have dropped a good ten degrees in the last couple weeks.
I don't get it.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: El Zorro]
#8707755 - 07/31/08 02:22 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Subbs like hot weather. Ive seen them fruit in 105 degree daytime temps. and 90 at night. I guess they will fruit regardless of the heat, unless it gets too dry.
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El Zorro
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8708036 - 07/31/08 03:20 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Yeah, I've seen some big fruitings in the fall when the weather was around 80 in the day and 60s at night. Then a few weeks ago I had fruitings in 106 degrees.
Who knows?
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: El Zorro]
#8713984 - 08/01/08 08:45 PM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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These came up in my garden the other day, it is fertilized with horse manure but I didn't plant them.
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AgentClaret
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8714168 - 08/01/08 09:37 PM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Very fine, that's some healthy mycelium...
Today, i found probably like 7 subbs, but i made the mistage of leaving em in a tin on the seat of my car in direct sunlight, and they sort of cooked. on the plus side, it killed some maggots that had infested one cap, on the downside, my car smelled like cooked shrooms, and the caps themselves got all slimy and small and dark.
stupid mistake, not sure why i did that...
also, at the new sod lawn i keep checking out, it looks like someone finally moved in... i thought i had the backyard to myself, until i saw a little child looking at me through the sliding door. I probably looked like the boogy man.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: AgentClaret]
#8714385 - 08/01/08 11:03 PM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Great pics Alan! They're so good, its almost pornographic! 
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: N2loma]
#8749245 - 08/09/08 02:34 PM (3 months, 24 days ago) |
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where did this thread go? come on hunters the subbs are still out there. here is 3.9g dried that i picked yesterday.
sorry about the picture having other stuff besides mushrooms it's the only shot i took of them.
also in that bag is a crushed 80mg oxycontin, a bean and half a xanny bar, all going to love fest with me tomorrow but not all for me. another bean will be finding its way into that bag when i meet up with my ride. point is subbs are still out there. 
get out there and save the little buggers from the evil lawnmowers.
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