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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: LagunaMuckHunta]
    #8661105 - 07/20/08 10:45 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Found these in SoCal.  Created a different post for them, but wanted to get a few other opinions on if they really are Subbs.

Subbs?


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Snoopapotamus]
    #8661584 - 07/21/08 01:00 AM (4 months, 13 days ago)

ya those look like subbs. but the one on the very right could be panaeolopsis.  also, they all look like they're blueing at the base.


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: alteredstates]
    #8662825 - 07/21/08 11:43 AM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Yeah, they all had blue at the base.  Does bluing occur in Panaeolopsis?


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Snoopapotamus]
    #8662917 - 07/21/08 12:05 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

According to the reports, yes. However I think that one on the right is a subb as well. I've been seeing a lot of those lately. If they drop spores then I would doubt they were panaeolopsis.


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: El Zorro]
    #8662932 - 07/21/08 12:08 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Nice finds man


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8662997 - 07/21/08 12:22 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Thanks!  I took some prints last night and inoculated a jar of rye.

We'll see what happens.


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Snoopapotamus]
    #8663237 - 07/21/08 01:13 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

A jar of rye? sounds too sterile for a wild print. Youll get growth alright, just of all kinds! hehe


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #8664068 - 07/21/08 05:27 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Too sterile??????


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: lqdtrance]
    #8665208 - 07/21/08 09:46 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

i've heard some shrooms woln't grow well in a well sterilized substrates. never really got a legit explaination as to why but the other day i read an article about a certian fungus bacteria symbiosis, maybe it has something to do with a similar interaction? maybe im talkin out of my ass?


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: lqdtrance]
    #8666204 - 07/22/08 01:12 AM (4 months, 12 days ago)

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Too sterile??????



If a jar is sterilized and inoculated with an unsterile print, Theres a great chance that bacteria or other mold is going to grow much faster than the mycelium and make the jar useless and disgusting.

If you only partially sterilize the jar, (pasteurization) then that certain "symbiosis" with other organisms and the mushrooms can now potentially occur, creating ample environment for multiple creatures to thrive in.


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #8666605 - 07/22/08 05:28 AM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Gotcha. I need to read up on that subject. I would like to cultivate P. subbs indoors as well as outdoors. Looking forward to see how it goes. Keep us updated on that grow!!


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: lqdtrance]
    #8667181 - 07/22/08 10:40 AM (4 months, 11 days ago)

Nice finds Snoopa! Hopefully you found at least a few handful's worth for a good dose. Too bad the season has sucked recently out East :tongue:


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: hamandcheese]
    #8667193 - 07/22/08 10:45 AM (4 months, 11 days ago)

Yeah, that is probably true, at least for some species of fungus (I'll see if I can find any journal articles on the topic). It is likely that the bacteria feed off molecules shed or excreted by the fungi, or simply degrade senescent hyphae. Also, some type of fungi have "bacteroid" symbiotic partners within them, possibly like how chloroplasts and mitochondria originated as algae and bacteria and became organelles.


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: N2loma]
    #8668275 - 07/22/08 03:32 PM (4 months, 11 days ago)

Subb - strate.:smirk:



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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: DannyGlick]
    #8672091 - 07/23/08 02:20 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Well i got a new neighborhood checked out, and the tail end of a hurricane :laugh:

I hope i find enough subbs this year to dose


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: mushmellowman]
    #8672219 - 07/23/08 02:55 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

found these in cherokee county on tuesday july 22.


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: weiliifungal]
    #8672597 - 07/23/08 04:16 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Goddamn!

Finding small stuff up here in a particular yard in michigan... weather hasnt been too great for fungi, though...


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: AgentClaret]
    #8672800 - 07/23/08 05:12 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Can't post pics at the moment but I picked a lil over 150 subbs today. Found a new neighborhood to pick on. Subbs seem to be popping again (except my good spot). I will post pics as soon as I have an internet connection to my pc.


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: weiliifungal]
    #8673001 - 07/23/08 06:12 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

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found these in cherokee county on tuesday july 22.




Those look rough.

And this is the Subbalteatus thread. :wink:

Are those weilii?


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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: El Zorro]
    #8673114 - 07/23/08 06:36 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

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Those look rough.

And this is the Subbalteatus thread. :wink:

Are those weilii?



exactly what i thought when i saw them. damn those are some of the bluest beefiest subbs ive seen then i noticed the cherokee county (GA correct?) and the name. and was like aww you tease go to the weillii thread with thoose.

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