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Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip?
    #8140429 - 03/13/08 05:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Some have said the Mexicana species don't have that imminent doom feeling Cubensis can have and it's an all around better trip. Some have said the same about Psilocybe Cyanescens, Psilocybe Azurescens, Weillii, etc. I'm sure bad trips are still possible but do some species associated with smoother trips lower the chances of a bad trip? What bad/good trips have you guys seen or had on non-cube strains?


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Re: Do some non-cube species lowers the chances of a bad trip? [Re: Wolfgang]
    #8140439 - 03/13/08 05:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

amanitas are more chill

but da rest i couldn't say fa sho, didn't feel different to me.


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Re: Do some non-cube species lowers the chances of a bad trip? [Re: anyone420]
    #8140453 - 03/13/08 06:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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amanitas are more chill

but da rest i couldn't say fa sho, didn't feel different to me.




Hell no they aren't. First of all, if you have a high dose trip you can have delusions which you can't tell apart from reality. That shit never happens on real shrooms.

And to answer the original question, no. A bad trip happens because of your mindset, not the differing alkaloids (unless you think God told you that you're gonna be in hell for eternity like what happened to me on Amanita).


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Re: Do some non-cube species lowers the chances of a bad trip? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #8140455 - 03/13/08 06:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

done amanitas probly 20 times but think what u want


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Re: Do some non-cube species lowers the chances of a bad trip? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #8140466 - 03/13/08 06:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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amanitas are more chill

but da rest i couldn't say fa sho, didn't feel different to me.




Hell no they aren't. First of all, if you have a high dose trip you can have delusions which you can't tell apart from reality. That shit never happens on real shrooms.

And to answer the original question, no. A bad trip happens because of your mindset, not the differing alkaloids (unless you think God told you that you're gonna be in hell for eternity like what happened to me on Amanita).




Not even a little? I realize how important a good mindset is but feeling uncomfortable and paranoid largely due to the species can't help. What species have you experienced?

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done amanitas probly 20 times but think what u want




I guess this just proves drugs effect everyone differently, I've heard Amanitas can be pretty gay.


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: Wolfgang]
    #8140513 - 03/13/08 06:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

A bad trip is much more You and Your Environment than it is the mushroom you eat.


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8141779 - 03/13/08 01:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

There's no difference, it's the psilocybin that makes you trip and thats the same in all of em.

Dont even compare amanitas I don't even consider those psychedelics.


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: oojijimoo]
    #8141803 - 03/13/08 02:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

you not everyone cuz

he asked about non cube mushrooms, amanitas are non cube mushrooms


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: anyone420]
    #8141813 - 03/13/08 02:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Differing species of psilocybin mushroom contain differing levels of alkaloids. There are, FYI, active alkaloids in mushrooms other than psilocybin/psilocin, such as baeocystin and norbaeocystin. The effects of these alkaloids are unknown, but depending on individual chemistry it is definitely feasible that different species of mushrooms will be more or less likely to give you a bad trip.

Of course, with the proper set and setting, a bad trip shouldn't be an issue on any species of mushroom.


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: anyone420]
    #8141816 - 03/13/08 02:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah so are shitaki mushrooms that doesn't mean that's what were talking about.


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: oojijimoo]
    #8141826 - 03/13/08 02:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

You have to take the good with the bad...


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: Brainiac]
    #8141833 - 03/13/08 02:20 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

just cuz you dont consider amanitas psychedelic doesn't mean they arent

you will find plenty of accounts of tripping off of them, therefore they apply

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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: anyone420]
    #8141836 - 03/13/08 02:22 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: Brainiac]
    #8141871 - 03/13/08 02:32 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I've done amanitas. You don't really trip in the same sense. You just get really fucked up and dissociated. I didn't find it fun or useful at all, and from what I've read neither do most people. It's generally assumed that amanitas are a completely different drug and are in no way an alternative to psilocybin mushrooms for similar effects. The OP obviously wanted something with similar effects but without the scary feelings.

To the OP: if you really do get scared when you trip and theres nothing to be done, you could always trip with some Xanax on hand just in case :P


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: oojijimoo]
    #8141901 - 03/13/08 02:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

From what I hear Panaeolus Cyanescens are an entirely different trip and do contian psilocybin.

I have never done them but found them on horse dung in the caribean. Because I am a germ-a-phobe I didnt eat them a friend did and I took a print, but sadly I lost it.


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: awesomebastard]
    #8142019 - 03/13/08 03:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

^ It's not... it just has more Psilocybin, thus making it more potent.

And NO<<<<< I wouldn't be telling someone looking for a less confusing/scary trip by telling him or her to trip on Azurescens and Cyan's because HELLO?!!1 they are more potent... unless you get MORE comfortable by getting thrown into the pool other then diving in yourself. LOL, which I doubt for most people who want to trip.

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done amanita probably 20 times but think what u want


OMG PURE IGNORANCE. NO YOU THINK WHAT YOUUUU WANT AND I'LL TRIP RESPONSIBLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Sorry, but you deny the truth to follow suit on your own idolatry...


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: Wolfgang]
    #8142034 - 03/13/08 03:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Some have said the Mexicana species don't have that imminent doom feeling Cubensis can have and it's an all around better trip.





thats absurd.:tongue2:



what's a shroom without a bit of DOOM?:evil:


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: allisthesame]
    #8142045 - 03/13/08 03:14 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I dont really find aminitas hallucinagenic but definantly psychedelic, some visauls but more mind fuck kind of like HBWS.


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #8142057 - 03/13/08 03:18 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Wolfgang said:
Some have said the Mexicana species don't have that imminent doom feeling Cubensis can have and it's an all around better trip.





thats absurd.:tongue2:



what's a shroom without a bit of DOOM?:evil:



Nothing. I guess that is what people want? Nothing?


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Re: Are there non-cube species that lower the chances of a bad trip? [Re: allisthesame]
    #8142650 - 03/13/08 05:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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^ It's not... it just has more Psilocybin, thus making it more potent.

And NO<<<<< I wouldn't be telling someone looking for a less confusing/scary trip by telling him or her to trip on Azurescens and Cyan's because HELLO?!!1 they are more potent... unless you get MORE comfortable by getting thrown into the pool other then diving in yourself. LOL, which I doubt for most people who want to trip.

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done amanita probably 20 times but think what u want


OMG PURE IGNORANCE. NO YOU THINK WHAT YOUUUU WANT AND I'LL TRIP RESPONSIBLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Sorry, but you deny the truth to follow suit on your own idolatry...




Why are we arguing here? Because he feels differently than you do on Amanitas? or because he doesn't trip as responsibly as YOU do? What?

I don't see why some shroomers have be so militant about shit.


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