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Wrigley Field name to be sold
#8119577 - 03/08/08 11:58 AM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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What a crock of shit.
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080307&content_id=2410702&vkey=spt2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc
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Cubs likely to sell Wrigley name rights Team chairman says that club has several suitors to choose By Carrie Muskat / MLB.com Team chairman Crane Kenney feels that nothing has compromised Wrigley's integrity. (Morry Gash/AP)
MESA, Ariz. -- The Cubs have been approached by at least three companies interested in purchasing naming rights to Wrigley Field, and team chairman Crane Kenney said on Friday that it is likely they will sell those rights.
Kenney, speaking to beat writers about the state of the team, also said that the Cubs are progressing in their efforts to get the Illinois Sports Facilities Authority (ISFA) to buy the ballpark and operate it, and could receive an offer next week. Kenney said they are still hopeful a framework for the transaction with ISFA could be completed by Opening Day, which is March 31.
Naming rights is the hot button issue with fans. The Cubs have already made some changes, such as renaming the bleachers the "Bud Light Bleachers" and adding the new Chicago Board Options Exchange seats, currently being auctioned off. New Tribune Co. chairman Sam Zell has made it clear that he is interested in selling naming rights to the ballpark, which was built in 1914 and named after William Wrigley.
The Cleveland Indians, for example, have changed the name of their stadium to "Progressive Field" after selling the name. The New York Mets will receive $400 million after selling their new stadium name to Citibank. It will be named "Citi Field."
"It's like a Chinese menu -- people are doing it all different ways," Kenney said of naming rights. "We know there's value in people attaching their corporate brands to what we are selling out at Clark and Addison [Streets]. Whether it's on the marquee or 70 seats down by the bullpen, naming rights are something we'll keep pursuing."
Kenney said companies have expressed an interest in purchasing the naming rights the way Progressive did in Cleveland. He recognizes that fans are opposed to the concept.
"We'll assess everything and look at the various ways we can do it, and what other parties are willing to do with us and be sensitive," Kenney said. "We're not crazy. We know people prefer to keep the name on the building. I prefer to keep the name on the building. If we can make it work to do that, that would be great.
"We're not going to leave resources that would go into the payroll and go into our restoration plans on the table to appease people who say, 'I don't think you should do it.'"
The majority of the revenue created from the sale of naming rights would go into restoring Wrigley Field. Kenney said the HOK architectural firm is looking at improving the grandstand area.
"The circle would be naming rights support a rennovation of the stadium," Kenney said. "A rennovated stadium creates more revenue. More revenue goes to the team, and it's that circle that works for us. That's essentially how the payroll continues to grow."
Even if the name changes, the Cubs will not change the structure of the marquee above the entrance to the ballpark. However, they can alter the letters in the marquee.
"We couldn't take the marquee down," Kenney said. "We believe the First Amendment protects what letters we write on the marquee. If we said, 'Let's take the marquee off and do something different,' we couldn't do that. The structure of the marquee is what's landmarked."
Zell still plans on selling the Cubs, and when asked about the advantage of having ISFA own and operate Wrigley Field while someone else owns the team, Kenney said such a deal would create a pool of resources.
The Cubs have postponed building what has been called the "Triangle Building" on Clark Street next to Wrigley Field because of the cost. That building would house all non-game day, non-essential club activities, and there is potential to create a lounge at the back of the grandstands.
"It has to get built," Kenney said of the building. "It's holding us back, it's holding performance on the field back. We don't have adequate player facilities. The fact of the matter is the facilities here [in Spring Training] are better than the ones in Chicago."
Kenney said the Cubs are very much aware the sky boxes need improvements, as do the rest rooms in the ballpark and the food. There is still netting in place in some parts of Wrigley Field, to prevent concrete from falling onto the concourse.
"These are things we need to do and have needed to do for years," Kenney said. "The Tribune, as a public company, you couldn't justify, 'Let's put $250 million into Wrigley Field. You could never make the numbers work. The ISFA deal is attractive because ISFA is not-for-profit. They buy the stadium and renovate it, and what they turn over to the owner is an attractive stadium."
If the grandstand renovation is done and the Triangle building built, Kenney said it may mean that the Cubs would have to relocate for an entire season or part of a season. Because ISFA also operates U.S. Cellular Field, the Cubs may be forced to play some of their home games on the White Sox home field during the renovation.
"Maybe construction would start the last day of the season and go through the offseason and maybe through June," Kenney said. "We haven't worked through the logistics of how it will go forward or what projects."
HOK's architects have told the Cubs that the project could be done in phases, and the team may not lose any home games or a season at Wrigley Field. There are no plans for fans to look at; they are still doing design work, Kenney said.
The idea of selling Wrigley Field to ISFA was actually Chicago Mayor Richard Daley's idea, Kenney said. Daley apparently brought it up when the ballpark received landmark status.
Whoever purchases the Cubs, which are still for sale, would agree to a 30-year lease with the ISFA. The lease would designate what contributions towards operations and maintenance would be from the Cubs, contributions from the Tribune Co., and contributions from ISFA.
On other topics, Kenney said:
• The Cubs' payroll is "North of $120 million," Kenney said. The team has gone from 10th to fifth in the Major Leagues in terms of payroll. "We should be -- we're a major market team, and we should play like one," Kenney said. There is room for the payroll to increase, he said.
• The Cubs now have 30 home night games, and would like to increase that number. Kenney said he talks to Cubs manager Lou Piniella and the players about the importance of night games. "That is a performance issue as much as it is a revenue issue for me," Kenney said. The league average is 54 home night games. "I know we won't get that many," Kenney said. "As a negotiator, there's room between 30 and 54."
• Crewneck Productions will follow the Cubs this year for a movie on the 2008 season. The working title is, "We believe: Chicago and its Cubs."
• The Cubs will not add a video scoreboard or Jumbotron to the existing scoreboard.
• The Cubs have moved eight games from WGN TV to Comcast. The team will be paid twice as much for the Comcast games than the WGN games. "Money means payroll and payroll means championships, in my view," Kenney said.
• The Cubs are moving toward their first-ever Spanish language broadcast, and hope to launch that by the All-Star Game.
• Major League Baseball has completed background checks on the four to six groups interested in purchasing the Cubs. The first step is to complete the ISFA deal; then the books on the team will be distributed to prospective buyers. The sale of the team is expected to be completed this year.
"One thing I've learned about my new boss is it's hard to predict what he'll do next," Kenney said.
Kenney has heard the criticism from fans, many of whom have dubbed Zell public enemy No. 1.
"I'd like to think we get a little bit of credit," Kenney said. "We haven't done anything really in not keeping the character of the park."
The bleacher expansion project is a perfect example.
"We have to look at [the grandstand project] like the bleachers so when it's done, everyone says, 'Look, the good things are still here, proximity to the field, sightlines, etc., but all the bad things are gone,'" he said.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: vonhumboldt]
#8119626 - 03/08/08 12:16 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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Who gives a fuck?
I don't know any Cubs fan that actually gives a shit. We will still call it Wrigley field, and if the team uses the money to make the team better they can call it "Fleecing The Fans Field" for all I care.
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I doubt the money would directly increase payroll. That's the just the spin. And most people I've talked to do care - life long Cubs fans.
"Welcome to Comcast Field - Home of the Chicago Cubs." I think not.
Red Sox fans would never put up with a selling of Fenway Park's name to some corporation.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: vonhumboldt]
#8120469 - 03/08/08 04:49 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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Wrigley's is a corporation
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: jewunit]
#8120575 - 03/08/08 05:27 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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Yes, but the field was named after William Wrigley.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: vonhumboldt]
#8120580 - 03/08/08 05:29 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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Who owned Wrigley gum.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: jewunit]
#8121079 - 03/08/08 08:00 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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Our local stadium has changed name semi-recently. Depends on who's offering the most cash. Takes a 2 day transition for the media to get the correct name , but I don't really care where the team is playing , I'll still find the place no matter what they name it
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I just don't understand how anyone can think this is a big deal.
For whichever Cub fan said he was heartbroken over it...
I've been a Cubs fan my whole life, and all of my friends are Cubs fans. Do you think, if they decide to call it "Tribune Field", do you think you and your friends will say "Man, lets go out to the Trib and see the Cubs play!"
No, you will say, like you always have..."We should head over to Wrigley and catch a game..."
This is the most inconsequential name change EVER. They won't be able to change the marquee out front, because Wrigley Field is a historical landmark. They won't be able to get the fans to call it anything else, nobody will.
Nothing will change, except tens of millions of dollars more that can be used to either upgrade an ailing ballpark or to upgrade an already Championship-caliber team.
The problem with Cubs fans is they are SO conservative. They are absolutely and without exception the most change averse people in the United States outside of the GOP. Anything new is bad, and the old stuff must all be great even if it stinks.
We went through the same thing last year w/ the signs on the brick s behind home plate. It was a huge row before this season with people threatening to cancel their season tix and boycott the team. Then they did it anyways, and after a few days nobody even noticed anymore.
A name change of Wrigley would be the same thing. Once they are playing baseball the action on the field is 10 bajillion times more interesting and important than which name the radio and television announcers use to refer to some 200-year old hunk of bricks and ivy.
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Madtowntripper said: an already Championship-caliber team.
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He may in fact, be a literal bum, only able to make himself known to us here by occasionally stopping into dark internet cafes to make a few quick, frantic posts before the owners force him to leave because of the stench of rotting vegetables and desperation wafting forth from his pores. [/quote]
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: jewunit]
#8121331 - 03/08/08 09:13 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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And to say your 10 000th post consisted of a graemlin. Ever concise
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: jewunit]
#8121332 - 03/08/08 09:13 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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I will punch you in the fucking teeth.
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TypicalTripper said: And to say your 10 000th post consisted of a graemlin. Ever concise
I didn't even notice. I need a fucking life man.
Madtown: Let's make a deal. If the Cubs ever win a World Series I'll be sure to make it to the next NE gathering, and you can slap me in the face.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: jewunit]
#8121345 - 03/08/08 09:18 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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Don't make any plans for next June then, punk.
A Cubs W_S win is virtually guaranteed this year.
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Alright, if that's the case I'll see you in nothern Ohio next summer. I'll even bring the baby powder.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: jewunit]
#8121357 - 03/08/08 09:21 PM (8 months, 23 days ago) |
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Oh, it's okay.
I have ho-slapping powder.
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Madtowntripper said: Don't make any plans for next June then, punk.
A Cubs W_S win is virtually guaranteed this year.

Ahahahahahahahahaha
Delusion of the highest order.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: Redstorm]
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I've been a Cubs fan my whole life, and all of my friends are Cubs fans. Do you think, if they decide to call it "Tribune Field", do you think you and your friends will say "Man, lets go out to the Trib and see the Cubs play!" No, you will say, like you always have..."We should head over to Wrigley and catch a game..."
Do people say, "hey, let's go to Comiskey,"? No, they say "the Cell" or "US Cellular" or "Sox Park" if they're from the suburbs.
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This is the most inconsequential name change EVER. They won't be able to change the marquee out front, because Wrigley Field is a historical landmark. They won't be able to get the fans to call it anything else, nobody will.
Read the news more carefully. They are planning on changing the letters on the marquee sign.
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Nothing will change, except tens of millions of dollars more that can be used to either upgrade an ailing ballpark or to upgrade an already Championship-caliber team.
The Cubs are already a gold-mine franchise. They do not really need more money for payroll or improvements - the money exists. The selling of the name is just icing on the cake profit-wise, except for a sweet treat that everyone loves, a historical landmark is being auctioned off to pad Zell's wallet. If the organization is so hard-up on cash, I'm sure fans would not mind spending an extra $10 per ticket to bring in more revenue. And with attendance breaking records every year and "Wrigley Field" t-shirts always selling, the money issue will be quickly solved (if there even is one).
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The problem with Cubs fans is they are SO conservative. They are absolutely and without exception the most change averse people in the United States outside of the GOP. Anything new is bad, and the old stuff must all be great even if it stinks.
Huh? I dont see any generalization to found in the political ideology of baseball fans. As for the lack of desire for change to the ballpark and game, I agree. Baseball is a game from 19th century and some people want to preserve the history and simplicity and avoid the crazy adverts and jumbotrons and mall-esque parking lots and <insert corporation's name> Park that every park in baseball has except for a few.
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We went through the same thing last year w/ the signs on the brick s behind home plate. It was a huge row before this season with people threatening to cancel their season tix and boycott the team. Then they did it anyways, and after a few days nobody even noticed anymore.
I dont remember much controversy on that matter to be honest. Changing the name of historic Wrigley Field an issue that kinda triumphs that, though.
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A name change of Wrigley would be the same thing. Once they are playing baseball the action on the field is 10 bajillion times more interesting and important than which name the radio and television announcers use to refer to some 200-year old hunk of bricks and ivy.
I like history and the preservation of landmarks, not the selling of everything sacred just to make a quick buck. And many people as well. I predict a down-turn in franchise popularity over the next decade or two if they sell the name of the field and start adding more and more advertising essentially neutralizing or diminishing any novelty or emotional connection that people have for the team and field. Your proposition that the selling of the name is a good thing for the team is just a simple, short-sighted solution - not a long-term view. Personally, I think they should ride the wave of the popularity of Wrigley Field - make moder improvements as necessary, but essentially keep the field as-is, name and all. Dont fix what aint broke.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: jewunit]
#8124544 - 03/09/08 06:57 PM (8 months, 22 days ago) |
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jewunit said: Who owned Wrigley gum.
Was the field named after the gum or the company? No. It was named after the individual. Read up on the some history before making dumb replies.
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Re: Wrigley Field name to be sold [Re: vonhumboldt]
#8124604 - 03/09/08 07:07 PM (8 months, 22 days ago) |
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Well, he either named it after himself because he was a fucking ego maniac or because he wanted his company to get exposure, either way it isn't good.
Honestly I don't see why this is such a big deal to you, man. Baseball is a fucking business after all.
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It's common knowledge that Jewunit is an umemployed drain on society, supposedly attending some university that nobodies ever heard of.
He may in fact, be a literal bum, only able to make himself known to us here by occasionally stopping into dark internet cafes to make a few quick, frantic posts before the owners force him to leave because of the stench of rotting vegetables and desperation wafting forth from his pores. [/quote]
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