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 scruffymafia
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Possibly Stropharia aurantiaca, it has been said it could possibly contain Psilocybin but that is doubted by most. If it does, it is in highly insignificant amounts. And it is said to cause really bad diarrhea - so i would not even think of trying it.
Good luck.
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Aristotikles
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Damn that sucks.. Thanks for the info
The spot's right next to my house and there are heaps 
I might check again see if I can find different varieties.
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scruffymafia
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Dont worry man, you will find them soon. The season is gonna close up soon, its been way to dry over most of the country for a decent season. I remember finding stroph's and thinking they were 'shrooms, you are getting alot closer though. Stropharias are actually very closely related to Psilocybes.
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where theres strophs, there are goods near by
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THcsilvahaze
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Had a nice find on Saturday,the biggest fattest subs ive ever found and f they were potent.Filled a paknsave bag and it felt like 2-3 kg.
Put about 20 odd in 400ml of water on low heat for around 15 minutes i had 150ml and shit it was a little to strong!! I wish i had taken better pics but had visitors here.
Dried some and did some experiments with freshies too= Brewed shrooms in homebrew moonshine (clear spirit) the same as i did in water, came out same colour as a water brew(brownish). Then i did a blender full of shine and shrooms,blended than left in fridge to soak which has made blue shine,havent filterd yet.
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hippie56
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exellent find and damn those things are fukin huge you make any spore prints dude
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THcsilvahaze
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 Re: NZ Season 2008 [Re: hippie56]
#8531100 - 06/16/08 07:13 PM (5 months, 16 days ago) |
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nah no prints i do the cardboard spawn tek this will be my third variant to play with. Ive got two other variants on cardboard and in jars with woodchips.
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cosmic ruler
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nice score.
Ive noticed that people are mostly getting subs,aucklandii and weraroa pouch fungus.
Does any1 often find ps.eucalytus,ps.australiana,ps.makarore???or any of the other varieties??
i no copelandia cyanescens are prevalent in taranaki...
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hippie56
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anybody finding pouches in the auckland area i'm relly keen on finding out if they grow here
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zee_werp
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 Re: NZ Season 2008 [Re: hippie56]
#8539633 - 06/19/08 04:09 AM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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Cosmic ruler, how do you know that? Have you personally found them? There is debate around this topic, as there has never actually been a confirmed documented collection of this species. No shroomery member has ever posted a C. cyanescens find from NZ...and we've found some pretty out of it and rare stuff. The habitats and visual descriptions given by the surfers in that area match Ps. subaeruginosa. But they call them 'Blue meanies' and there is a chance that some academics took this to mean C. cyanescens when infact it was just regular old goldies.
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cosmic ruler
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Re: NZ Season 2008 [Re: zee_werp]
#8541509 - 06/19/08 05:10 PM (5 months, 13 days ago) |
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zee_werp said:
Cosmic ruler, how do you know that? Have you personally found them? There is debate around this topic, as there has never actually been a confirmed documented collection of this species. No shroomery member has ever posted a C. cyanescens find from NZ...and we've found some pretty out of it and rare stuff. The habitats and visual descriptions given by the surfers in that area match Ps. subaeruginosa. But they call them 'Blue meanies' and there is a chance that some academics took this to mean C. cyanescens when infact it was just regular old goldies.
True...?No cosmic ruler has never picked inthe New plymouth region.
Cosmic ruler would like to retract that statement and apologise.
Was going off reports listed online and erowid and 1st hand reports obtained from locals who obviously are incorrect.
Have many samples from that region been checked/tested,looked at under microscope??
Quote ;"It is likely that persons experienced with the Australian situation recognized C. cyanescens and P. tasmaniana growing in the New Plymouth sand dunes, particularly at Khomenii beach which is popular with surfers."
" Copelandia cyanescens (`blue meanies') predominates in the New Plymouth region, an area of intensive dairy farming. The mushrooms appear in autumn, most commonly under lupine bushes in coastal paddocks."
cosmic ruler apologizes for his ignorance on this matter and maybe should have read some previous threads form this site before posting that statement.
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THcsilvahaze
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Cosmic ive found subs in Lupine and in coastal paddocks along boxthorn hedgerows and pines.
What bluemeenies were described to me by locals sounded like subs that had oxidized deep blue in a frost,and they only look for 'em' after a heavy frost, 'em' being really blue shrooms hence the name bluemeenies? Who knows? Im may be to far south of New Plymouth for my 2 cents worth, but some seasons around here you constantly stumble across subs not even looking for them. anyway heres some pics from my garden today...
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hippie56
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hey guys i have had copelandia cyanescens givin to me buy a friend many years ago and they were picked in the taranaki region can't quite remember where about he said he found them but i'm pretty sure they were found in cow shit
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scruffymafia
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Re: NZ Season 2008 [Re: hippie56]
#8541870 - 06/19/08 06:57 PM (5 months, 13 days ago) |
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Probably P. coprophila.
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CaMo
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Quote:
THcsilvahaze said:
nah no prints i do the cardboard spawn tek this will be my third variant to play with. Ive got two other variants on cardboard and in jars with woodchips.
hey man
Just wondering if you could give me a quick run down on what you do? Do you get to the fruiting stage.
I did manage to get inoculate and grow sub spores on BRF and verm mix but saddly all my jars got contaminated when they were almost full colonized
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Fler
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Re: NZ Season 2008 [Re: CaMo]
#8543293 - 06/20/08 02:26 AM (5 months, 13 days ago) |
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I somewhat got the impressions 'blue meanies' were the Weraroas. I had someone describe their finds of them as looking like 'little smurfs'
In the Auckland area i'm yet to locate any though. For Subs East Auckland is relatively dry, havent found a bloody thing. I find mine in the CBD!!!
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scruffymafia
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Re: NZ Season 2008 [Re: Fler]
#8545597 - 06/20/08 08:24 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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Me and a mate went for a hunt yesterday, i didnt expect to find much - there were no shrooms in my normal spots, then we found decent spot on my lawn, there were about 50 shrooms there. Then only about 50m from my place we found the mega patch. It was about 15m X 15m big and it was packed with subs, EVERYWHERE. We picked all the big ones, leaving the young pins to grow. We left the patch with one of those small bags that are on those rolls at supermarkets full of mushies. It weighed near 500g!
We were pretty stoked. Heres the pics of the haul, that plate is a big serving plate. Just to give you an idea of how big that pile is, the plate is about 40cm wide and the heap is about 20cm high. We estimate we picked about 300-400 shrooms.
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zee_werp
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Thats a decent find!
And about the C. cyanescens thing...the persons who have written and claimed that C. cyanescens grow in Taranaki have never actually picked them there themselves.
The things that might have made them think that they were C. cyanescens is the term 'Blue meanies', the fact that the area is in intensive dairy farming (= cow shit), and the fact that the persons who were picking them were surfers (= association with Hawaii).
There are a few reasons that they are most likely not C. cyanescens but rather a strain of Ps. subaeruginosa or variant. These include the climate/season as mentioned above (WAY too cold for C. cyanescens growth), the habitat (in the sand dunes under lupin bushes. Just cause Taranaki has lots of dairy farms, this doesnt mean much if the shrooms are found outside of pasture land), and the fact that no one actually has a confirmed collection of them, after decades of people hunting them.
As for the term 'blue meanies', you will find that this name has been given to LITERALLY every single blue-bruising hallucinogenic mushroom at one time or another. I've heard Ps. subaeruginosa referred to as blue meanies countless times. In the lower part of the North Island 'blue meanies' does seem to generally refer to the Weraroa pouches, and in the USA and some other countries it refers to C. cyanescens.
There are still those that claim that C. cyanescens are present in NZ, but I've seen way too many cases of poor identifaction skills, combined with unclear common name usage, to believe this. Not to mention liars!
Anyway I'm not saying that there definitley not present in NZ, but I'm yet to see even the smallest piece of hard evidence to suggest that they are.
And cosmic ruler, no need to apologise, lol...there are indeed a few publications on the net and elsewhere that claim this chinese whispers aquired information is indeed fact.
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Fler
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Re: NZ Season 2008 [Re: zee_werp]
#8548651 - 06/21/08 08:13 PM (5 months, 11 days ago) |
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Wow thats an epic haul.
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Re: NZ Season 2008 [Re: Fler]
#8549468 - 06/22/08 01:37 AM (5 months, 11 days ago) |
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Hey...nice hunt today, and managed to find some more of the mutant half breed pouch mushrooms...the ones that look in between wearoa and subs...was just actually wandering about these...my understanding had been they were sub variants, but somebody recently told me they were makaore (of which I've never seen a photo).
Entire haul is from 2 different spots but the pouch mushrooms were found growing in between and around the subs, but slightly more undercover. Exact same substrate, exact same area, but completely and utterly different in appearance.
Can somebody confirm if these are the same genus or if they are a different type altogether? Will provided spore print if required.
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