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 Salmon_Cake
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 ID request 
#8084639 - 02/29/08 12:17 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Location: ACT Australia
Habitat: Soil - next to a footpath, growing in woodchip mulch under a small deciduous bush
Gills: Free, initially white but after i brushed them to remove some dirt they turned a very pale pink/brown colour
Stem: White, hollow, about 2cm wide 10cm tall. Upon slicing the cross-section turned from white to orange quite quickly, and after about a minute became dark rust brown. Veil present, though loosely attached (i could slide it up and down about 1cm). Dry.
Cap: White with concentric, dull-brown spots that pull off the cap easily. Top of the cap becomes more completely brown and protrudes slightly above the rest of the cap. Dry.
Spore Print: Nothing came out (sorry!)
Pictures:
Below: within 1 second of cutting stem
Below: after about 5-10 seconds of cutting stem
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 CureCat
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Registered: 04/19/06
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That looks just like Chlorophyllum brunneum, an edible species. Was there a Cypress tree near by or was it growing from Cypress litter??
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undergrounder
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Registered: 11/10/06
Posts: 1,390
Loc: Sydney 
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Re: ID request [Re: CureCat]
#8084903 - 02/29/08 02:49 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Chlorophyllum hortense (which i read is similar to Ch. brunneum). The reddish sap that comes out of the stem is the give away. In my book it says 'Not certain if this species is toxic but it should be treated with extreme caution'.I get them in the park a lot, i certainly wouldn't eat them:
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Bigger and bolder and rougher and tougher in other words sucka there is no other...
   
Edited by undergrounder (02/29/08 02:55 AM)
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CureCat
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The base of those C. hortense photos is not consistent with the collection.... That abrupt platue, bulbish base is consistent with C. brunneum.
Also, a lot of Lepiotoid species stain red, including C. brunneum and C. rhacodes.
But I'll check with Else (she re-named/classified it into Chlorophyllum) tomorrow to see which species occur in Australia, and what she thinks they look like.
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undergrounder
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Loc: Sydney
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Re: ID request [Re: CureCat]
#8084967 - 02/29/08 04:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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CureCat said:
The base of those C. hortense photos is not consistent with the collection.... That abrupt platue, bulbish base is consistent with C. brunneum.
Also, a lot of Lepiotoid species stain red, including C. brunneum and C. rhacodes.
But I'll check with Else (she re-named/classified it into Chlorophyllum) tomorrow to see which species occur in Australia, and what she thinks they look like.
Your no doubt right, Chl. hortense is just the more common one that i know of in Australia, to be honest i'd never heard of brunneum and the bulbous base is certainly different to ones i've seen. The wine red stem to me is the defining feature of Chl. hortense, as i made the mistake of leaving a stipe on my desk once and had to clean up the red mess. It is mentioned by Else as a defining characteristic of hortense even over the standard red staining of many Lepiotoid.
I've uploaded a copy of Else's Macrolepiota and Chlorophyllum in Australia paper if you don't have it, but going on that base, yes i agree its more likely Chl. brunneum
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Salmon_Cake
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Re: ID request [Re: CureCat]
#8084973 - 02/29/08 04:15 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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CureCat said:
That looks just like Chlorophyllum brunneum, an edible species. Was there a Cypress tree near by or was it growing from Cypress litter??
I didn't see any around where they were growing, only a few eucalypts and maybe a small maple tree. the mulch it was growing in looked like commercial woodchips and some eucalypt leaf litter.
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