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What do you make of love?
    #8077954 - 02/27/08 04:50 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

What do you make of love?

Everything, or a just a feeling?



It is only a word yet it is the only word which i feel can describe what I see & feel as everything, love is the reason everything is, "god" is love.

Love=life force=awareness=peacefulness=purity=harmony=all there is=god

Love is the driving force behind everything, it wills everything into existence, it wills everything to be one.

It is all there is. One Love.

Everything anyone does is out of love, either misdirected destructive love, or pure creative evolutionary love.

Everything we create or destroy is out of love. Love works in a peaceful harmonious cycle of being, and being one.

Love wills nothingness/oneness into being through love of being, and love wills being into nothingness/oneness for love of oneness.

This is why when man & women become one to create being they feel true loving oneness, they become god, thus create being.

We are all evolving to love.

Love is all inclusive & all expansive.

True pure love is unconditional love, free of attachment.

ie If you love someone and they leave you, then you hate them, you never loved them truly, you were just attached to them and what they did to feed your ego. You can miss them and ache for them but if you love them you let them go and still feel love for them.

Simply being is orgasmic creation of love.

Love knows no loss, knows no death, it is one.

I used to believe life was all there is, yet without love, why would life need to be in the first place?

Love is all you need.

One Love.

:peace::heart::yinyang:


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Chronic777]
    #8077975 - 02/27/08 04:55 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

I can't help but notice that 'all there is' includes events like suicide vest bombs flattening cafes...
Is this love??


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Chronic777]
    #8077985 - 02/27/08 04:57 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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What do you make of love?

Everything, or a just a feeling?



It is only a word yet it is the only word which i feel can describe what I see & feel as everything, love is the reason everything is, "god" is love.

Love=life force=awareness=peacefulness=purity=harmony=all there is=god

Love is the driving force behind everything, it wills everything into existence, it wills everything to be one.

It is all there is. One Love.

Everything anyone does is out of love, either misdirected destructive love, or pure creative evolutionary love.

Everything we create or destroy is out of love. Love works in a peaceful harmonious cycle of being, and being one.

Love wills nothingness/oneness into being through love of being, and love wills being into nothingness/oneness for love of oneness.

This is why when man & women become one to create being they feel true loving oneness, they become god, thus create being.

We are all evolving to love.

Love is all inclusive & all expansive.

True pure love is unconditional love, free of attachment.

ie If you love someone and they leave you, then you hate them, you never loved them truly, you were just attached to them and what they did to feed your ego. You can miss them and ache for them but if you love them you let them go and still feel love for them.

Simply being is orgasmic creation of love.

Love knows no loss, knows no death, it is one.

I used to believe life was all there is, yet without love, why would life need to be in the first place?

Love is all you need.

One Love.

:peace::heart::yinyang:


(damn i wanna bring back 1969!!!) :rockon:






All speculation. Our concepts of love may be the result of culture. I have serious doubts that we can know any of this.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8078066 - 02/27/08 05:14 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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backfromthedead said:
I can't help but notice that 'all there is' includes events like suicide vest bombs flattening cafes...
Is this love??




Misguided love yes, everything works in harmony (love) sometimes the path seems rough, the big bang could be seen as chaos, i see it as orgasmic creational love bursting forth to create.

People flatten cafes as suicide bombers out of love for what thay think is right, they think this will bring them eternal love, these people also think theyre gonna have 20 virgins waiting for them, they are misguided and conditioned, love is the driving force behind everything pure love is the unconditioned, that which we ache for...yet is always inside us

imo :wink:


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Chronic777]
    #8078090 - 02/27/08 05:18 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

Too much talk about love gets me dizzy. :hypno:


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #8078151 - 02/27/08 05:30 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

I think love is overrated. Seriously.


Love has been turned into this huge deal where everything can be explained and it's kind of fluffy and perfect :snowman: .

Some things aren't about/due to love. Don't forget chaos.

Sometimes shit just happens.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #8078161 - 02/27/08 05:31 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

I think thtas the point, the cosmos is quite dizzy :smile: Love is a cycle.

Being & Freewill have alot to do with acts that seem devoid of love, we can go with or against it, its up to us...otherwise whats the point of being?

The whole point it that we can Be and also Be Love, we evolve to love.

I can go and kill someone right now for no reason and it would have nothing to do with love in the obvious sense, yet i would suffer immensely for it. And it would greatly hinder my evolution to love.

As will people who commit suicide and kill others, love is everything, not just a positive or negative aspect of conceptualising, you cant rationlise or conceptualise all there is. Love is nondual. So i dont know why i bother in threads like this its just nice to have other opinions...

It works in a harmony on a universal scale, one human being killing a few others is such a small tiny aspect of it...

Some see chaos, i see loving harmony...if the world were to be half blown up right now i would not see it as destruction.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: mushbaby]
    #8078195 - 02/27/08 05:38 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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I think love is overrated. Seriously.


Love has been turned into this huge deal where everything can be explained and it's kind of fluffy and perfect :snowman: .

Some things aren't about/due to love. Don't forget chaos.

Sometimes shit just happens.




Especially when one main word (LOVE) is used to describe a deep underlying truth. Oftentimes it can mislead if the hook on meaning is not kept on.

Love is flow, but not all flow is love.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Chronic777]
    #8078235 - 02/27/08 05:44 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

'they are misguided and conditioned, love is the driving force behind everything'

Funny that when you unleash 'the energy' this happens.



I guess you could power a piston and a generator.:heartpump:


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Chronic777]
    #8078271 - 02/27/08 05:50 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

love is simply a test of how much you are willing to sacrifice for an uncertain return on your investment of chi


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Chronic777]
    #8078293 - 02/27/08 05:55 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

Now I have felt that power. I know what you are talking about. It's just so diluted when you step out of that place.

Since everyone doesn't stay in that "zone" many of the things we experience are not a result of love.

Altered Again said it about right:

"Love is flow, but not all flow is love".


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: scrywolof]
    #8078296 - 02/27/08 05:55 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

Mmmmyessss, if my calculations are sound, with compound interest factored in... I'll need to invest 1,000 lbs. of Chi bullion. :nerd:


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Lion]
    #8078358 - 02/27/08 06:05 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

I've heard its a BULL market??
I feel bare.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8078377 - 02/27/08 06:08 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

The signature "??"
The sig.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Lion]
    #8078444 - 02/27/08 06:21 PM (9 months, 2 days ago)

No left hand turns.:tongue:


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Chronic777]
    #8079913 - 02/28/08 12:12 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

Love as per the me'ness:
the idea that people are inherently lazy(not inherently good)makes for love to be a valuable commodity in the sense that it is a way of convenience. If i were to be bound to someone with love, i would expect not to have to search day to day for emotional support, physical help, someone to bitch to about things that bother me(free therapist).

Love is a purchase much like a car, it will cost you lots of money break down when u need it the most and get all cruddy lookin with time.

But this purchase assures that you will not have to die alone(granted we all do anyway, but is fun to pretend), there will be half as many trips to get yourself snacks and beverages in the kitchen and someone to fetch random objects. Love sucks cuz when this process gets out of balance you must unlazy yourself and return to single life which is hard as you have put on quite the pudge.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: LampShadeHelmet]
    #8080005 - 02/28/08 01:10 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

Here i pose a few questions to everyone.

What would you do for love?

Would you kill/torture/ for revenge due to murder/rape of a loved one?
What would you do if a group of your friends died as a result of a airline hijacking/thuggery/etc etc? Seek Revenge? Harm Yourself? etc...

Would you try hold onto a good loving relationship as long as possible?
Would (if the relationship has been working a long time) you make sure that person always knows how much you love them by telling them often (even if the voicing is not reciprocal)?

or Would you treat it with cynicism (but maybe play along) because you feel at your age that its not going to last anyway?


Some people say love is weak, but i say giving up on it is weaker.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: flangenips]
    #8080112 - 02/28/08 02:06 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

any love you can feel from anyone is already inside of you.

add the piece to the puzzle and you just let yourself see more of the entire picture.

love is definitely everything


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: ShroomFan]
    #8080273 - 02/28/08 04:12 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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any love you can feel from anyone is already inside of you.

add the piece to the puzzle and you just let yourself see more of the entire picture.

love is definitely everything




thankyou theres sumone else out there!
there is endless love out there for those that realise it.

the further you are from it the more you suffer.
thus life is suffering yet we can realise love and go with it in harmony to free ourselves from suffering (non attachment) the buddha's words have never made so much sense to me, enlightenment, bliss, highest happyness, nirvana etc...its all love.

life is suffering in the sense we have free will to be and life is mainly ignorant of the love behind all as its attached to being, yet being is impermanent, even though we've had many prophets of love buddhas, jesus etc...we still don't listen to the truth!

god if i was to see myself saying these words 10 years ago id laugh my ass off but it all makes sense finally.

we all evolve to love, the less sesnsitive you are the less evovled you are ie "oooga booga caveman me kill and make food!" whereas evolved beings flow perfectly in harmony with the love of everything, you have to surrender yourself to it, or suffer, its up to you.

this may offend people, but i dont believe im above anyone or anything as its all love, this is unbelievably humbling, you can either realise it or not, its up to you, yet we are evolving to love, the proof is inside you. :grin:

i really dont mean to offend anyone by these statements they are just what is true to me, it brings me bliss and happyness in my life (even when i got the frickin flu!) so you cant hate on me for that :peace:

I believe there will be huge disaster and great suffering in the world, then we shall grow to live in a utopian society, you have to go through one to find the other, thats the suffering of life.

I never truly understood life is suffering until i realised all this, the trick is to let go of the suffering itself.

Watch planet earth as it revolves in space and tell me it is not working in harmony to create life that evolves to love...


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: mushbaby]
    #8080329 - 02/28/08 05:03 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

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I think love is overrated. Seriously.


Love has been turned into this huge deal where everything can be explained and it's kind of fluffy and perfect :snowman: .

Some things aren't about/due to love. Don't forget chaos.

Sometimes shit just happens.




Chaos comes from one's inability to understand, to explain themselves how that apparent chaos has resulted.
So yes, if you oppose it to love it makes sense, since one of the attributes of love is understanding.
The fact that "shit happens" (whatever that means) doesn't mean anything more than that. Finding yourself in a less fortunate circumstance doesn't mean that the love is gone, but it means that you're unable to perceive it anymore. Love is not a quantifiable object that moves from place to place, so sustaining that it somehow disappears just doesn't make sense. :shrug:
Love is a state of being, a state of being in which we experience joy for life, love IS the pulse of life. :heartpump:


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #8080490 - 02/28/08 06:56 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

That was beautiful MT.

I know I have been coming across rather cynical in regards to love lately. I have definitely been having a crises of faith when it comes to love.

I can see it on the grand scale, sometimes it's harder to find on a more personal level.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: mushbaby]
    #8080508 - 02/28/08 07:12 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

The word love has roots in the word for Jupiter - Jove.

The same is true for the words juvenile and joke. Seriously.

Strange how people use the word love to describe the attachment to the emotional high of infatuation.

Love is actually the opposite of attachment, it is surrender.


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: Middleman]
    #8080522 - 02/28/08 07:21 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)

So "love is a joke?" :grin:


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Re: What do you make of love? [Re: mushbaby]
    #8080524 - 02/28/08 07:23 AM (9 months, 2 days ago)