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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: Morelman]
#8525773 - 06/15/08 01:46 AM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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The Orissa mushrooms I've eaten have been very potent.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: tripsis]
#8525858 - 06/15/08 02:46 AM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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Perhaps they don't bruise blue until they reach maturity.
Fruits of Transkei at this size would, and have, knocked me on my ass in the past. I'm a lightweight too.
Maybe someone mislabeled the print. They aren't solid fruits as has been reported. The print was small, doesn't mean anything in and of itself I know.
What I do know for certain is that these came from a print labeled Orissa, they are growing on Hpoo, the mycelium is rhizomorphic and at this stage of development (5" pins). They are very, very weak in potency compared to Transkei.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: Morelman]
#8525885 - 06/15/08 03:03 AM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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Was that from multispore? Because multispore guarantees you nothing. You may have just ended up with a weak substrain. Doing multispore again could end you up with the polar opposite.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: Morelman]
#8536183 - 06/18/08 04:22 AM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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Hi there, does anybody have any pic's or report on the Prints sent by P.Menace so far ? My cake are fully colonized and i'm going to fruit em soon !
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: Agu]
#8538885 - 06/18/08 10:35 PM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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Ya know, I am really surprised the menace strain hasn't made an appearance on this list. Is this because it doesn't have an "official" name yet?
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It is interesting that there hasnt been much said about it here in the strain discussion, but then again there is a 140+ page thread floating around about it.
And there may not be an *official* name yet... but they will be available to the general public to buy within the week, Sporeworks.com will be the first vendor of them all to carry the spores of the strain that I stabilized. So for the 335 people that happened to have received a free print from me will be the first ones around to have their hands on it.
as for keeping my post on topic... If there are any particular Questions about the strain... please feel free to ask them here and i will gladly answer to the best of my experience with the strain, and the best of my knowledge.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: P.Menace]
#8539014 - 06/18/08 11:13 PM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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well considering it is so far becoming my first successful grow, I will always call it Menace.
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and yet... as well i find myself referring to it as something else... It may take some time... but it should be accepted for whatever name it is given, some people are haters (*ahem* u know who you are) but in my mind the Shroomery Community named the strain Ps. Cubensis Menace... or Ps. Menace for short.
but as for me... IDC what it gets called, named or otherwise... I will always know that this strain is out there Because of Losfreddy and Myself, And no matter what, I would be able to re-locate the strain in the future.
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Blutjager said: "The work for payoff ratio for pf tek is like driving 500 miles to work all day for minimum wage,. in other words ITS NOT WORTH IT "
roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: P.Menace]
#8539070 - 06/18/08 11:32 PM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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Would you mind describing the strain, or linking to your previous description?
I've been waiting for it to be named before I added it to my journal.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: Cervantes]
#8539081 - 06/18/08 11:34 PM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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you should name it something to do with origin. that seems to be the trend with naming strains.
ofc i dont care if you name it your full name followed by wins.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: Cervantes]
#8539336 - 06/19/08 01:12 AM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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Cervantes said: Would you mind describing the strain, or linking to your previous description? I've been waiting for it to be named before I added it to my journal.
There will be a full description posted up with them on Sporeworks within the week... but here goes for the Journal Entry Later
Caps: 25-70mm appearing "Wavy" or "Pleated" from Primordial stages into Maturity (this is what makes it Unique)
Stipe: Hollow, thick at base. Tenaciously attached to the Mycellium
Colonization: Very Aggressive! Super Fast, Very Rizomorphic.... Tears thru Substrate.
Pref. Temps.: colonization times are slowed by temperatures above 80F and seem to grow fastest at 70-73F...
At Casing: Prefers heavy misting for the first few days after casing ( 0 incubation time) until Primordia form, Prefers LARGE amounts of FAE, and will abort easily if misted even lightly after pin set.
Potency: Has been reported to have a very High Potency at low Doses and almost too much to handle at over 3 grams of dried material Ingested, tho I cannot confirm this for myself, It has been told to me by MANY reliable sources...
The Picture can be found here: http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Cubensae/Psilocybe_cubensis_Menace or in the First Post of my HUGE thread in the mush Cult Main Forum
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Blutjager said: "The work for payoff ratio for pf tek is like driving 500 miles to work all day for minimum wage,. in other words ITS NOT WORTH IT "
roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: P.Menace]
#8539341 - 06/19/08 01:15 AM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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Thanks for the sneak peek!
Now any personal notes you'd like to add to all that?
Come on... brag about the caps... do it... do it!
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: Cervantes]
#8539405 - 06/19/08 01:42 AM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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The caps are something that began to appear fron the very first casing... tho it was the second flush I attempted to make a clone from one of them with the cool caps, but it failed due to bacterial infection, so I began again on agar... I began with spores from the original print, isolated out something like 6 or 7 sectors, all of which fruited BTW, but 2 displayed the caps again, so I again cloned, only this time to agar, and isolated the 3 sectors that remained, all of them had the wavy caps, and the fruits were getting larger in size... but again one displayed a very rizomorphic, very fast growth on the agar... like it ran a 100mm plate in 6 days! also proved to be larger fruits than before so thats the one I stuck with... then eventually lost to contaminates, but I had some *more* domesticated spore prints... working again from the beginning, I once again came across the "Wavy" caps, and larger fruits still... It was then that I knew that i had actually isolated those genetics and passed them on to the spores so as a few tests and some slight bit more domestication, i kept growing from a print of the most recent flush, all multispore, all wavy caps repetitively, and the beginning of the domestication of the wild strain... after I made it past the 7th generation(spore to spore = 1 generation) (after the isolations) I had the first giveaway... Then with the Isolation Process once again, i then created another tub Specifically to take pics and give prints away, and created some of the largest fruits from the strain.
All in all it was a fun escapade, and I learned alot from the process... nothing like getting your hands in there and getting dirty
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http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Cubensae/Psilocybe_cubensis_Menace
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Blutjager said: "The work for payoff ratio for pf tek is like driving 500 miles to work all day for minimum wage,. in other words ITS NOT WORTH IT "
roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: P.Menace]
#8539457 - 06/19/08 02:11 AM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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Now that's what I'm talking about!
Very cool.
Thank you.
As for a name, usually we go with location but I sure do like the ring to 'Menace Strain'
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are there any psilocybe strains the stay under 4 inches tall with less than 1 cm thick stalks with caps about 1 - 1 1/2 in across, and light carmel colored??
i keep seeing them growing in my back yard and i live in central texas...
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Antii]
#8539673 - 06/19/08 04:45 AM (5 months, 14 days ago) |
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Antii said: are there any psilocybe strains the stay under 4 inches tall with less than 1 cm thick stalks with caps about 1 - 1 1/2 in across, and light carmel colored??
i keep seeing them growing in my back yard and i live in central texas...
post that in the hunting forum mate that could be anything also post pics if you want a id, and do it in the hunting forum
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-HERE ONLY! [Re: Juke Adro]
#8540383 - 06/19/08 10:52 AM (5 months, 13 days ago) |
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Psilocybe Texan Menace is what i will always call this strain
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: P.Menace]
#8554922 - 06/23/08 03:55 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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P.Menace said: Temps.: colonization times are slowed by temperatures above 80F and seem to grow fastest at 70-73F...
Cool caps. And those low temps could be a selling point. My "room temp" is a lot lower than a lot of members here. I would highly value a strain that colonised without the need for a heater, I expect many people would. Should be tested at even lower temps.
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: P.Menace]
#8555970 - 06/23/08 08:25 PM (5 months, 9 days ago) |
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I haven't been on here that much lately due to work, but it's nice to see this kind of enthusiasm in our favorite hobby.
I'll definitely be checking these wavy capped cubes out ASAP!! And there from my favorite vendor  
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Re: Strain Discussion Thread-Orissa [Re: blackout]
#8558658 - 06/24/08 02:42 PM (5 months, 8 days ago) |
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blackout said:
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P.Menace said: Temps.: colonization times are slowed by temperatures above 80F and seem to grow fastest at 70-73F...
Cool caps. And those low temps could be a selling point. My "room temp" is a lot lower than a lot of members here. I would highly value a strain that colonised without the need for a heater, I expect many people would. Should be tested at even lower temps.
i agree... but with summer temps now i cant continue that experiment until later this year
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http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Cubensae/Psilocybe_cubensis_Menace
SainT420 said: You gotta be a Man of your Word... Or you will be a Man of NO WORDS! 6 feet Under
Prisoner # 1 said: always remember, the stupid ones never realize they're stupid... BlackMatch456,lil_demented,Dizzwizzle,djblackout
Blutjager said: "The work for payoff ratio for pf tek is like driving 500 miles to work all day for minimum wage,. in other words ITS NOT WORTH IT "
roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.
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