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 chojin
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 Medicinal Mushroom Research
#7452320 - 09/25/07 03:40 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Edited by chojin (10/15/07 01:14 AM)
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RogerRabbit
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research Sticky? [Re: chojin]
#7452575 - 09/25/07 04:58 PM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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Sure. Stuck. Hopefully we can keep things on topic.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#7476927 - 10/02/07 10:23 AM (1 year, 12 days ago) |
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Any detailed techniques for extracting polysaccharides. I have a Soxhlet extractor that I picked up a couple of years ago. I'm itching to use it.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Morelman]
#7552335 - 10/23/07 07:13 PM (11 months, 14 days ago) |
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Being new to the subject what are the medicinal benefits that stick out like a sore thumb?????????
Like a subject I'm more familiar with is Grass, and aside from many benefits it holds. The one that slaps me in the face is how it treats Nausea.
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Edited by Minion (10/23/07 07:14 PM)
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mr_minds_eye
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Minion]
#7898998 - 01/18/08 08:14 PM (8 months, 20 days ago) |
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I currently work at a natural foods grocery store. One of my room mates works in the suplement section. I got a good fucking discount through her with New Chapter. So I ordered a bunch of myco medicinals. I'm taking a few right now in the form of their Mental Clarity product. Its predominantly Loin's Mane. Also I'm taking Reishi and Cordyceps. I'm taking 2 caps 3 times daily. My mood has improved exponentially. I feel otherwise great. I know the Reishi is supposed to produce a non-narcotic sense of well being. So I attributed my elevation in spirits to that. Also I have been getting more exercise lately. However I am normally pretty active anyways. Point being that I suffer from rapid cycling manic depression and seem to find more relief from what I'm taking right now. It might just be the cordyceps, it might be the reishi, or the combo. I'm sure the exercise helps. I do think that there is promise in this. Also note that I have never cared for anti-depressants and St John's Wort doesn't do much either.
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curenado
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#7902578 - 01/19/08 05:10 PM (8 months, 19 days ago) |
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Congrats MindsEye!
You are just happily learning what tons of other people have. We make our own and use about the same dose unless long time eater or diabetic etc.
The reishi energy isn't what is noticeable to me - just that I feel good and feel like doing more.
Keep well hydrated!
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: curenado]
#7904053 - 01/19/08 11:30 PM (8 months, 19 days ago) |
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You know I have had issues with that but I wasn't sure what it was from. Probably the detox effects I would imagine.
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curenado
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#7909063 - 01/21/08 10:39 AM (8 months, 17 days ago) |
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GREATFUL UN-DEAD:
This genleman was supposed to have been dead already for 9 years. He about was when I met him. Here he is and has been eating g/m mushrooms for 3.5 years among other things we have used for years.
Anyway, here is our clinical evidence for the medical power of mushrooms in the form of Mr. Barry Eubanks, featured in the "Tassili Liberty" article on the psilocybe medicine thread here...(link below in sig...page 5 or 6?)
http://www.youtube.com/user/crystalwoman57
Best Wishes Always!
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1581935/page/2/fpart/1/vc/1 - The Psilocybe Medicine Thread
http://www.youtube.com/user/crystalwoman57 - Evidence of Life! (Barry Eubanks)
http://wildmountaindoctor.blogspot.com - Vanilla Blog for Hill Humor...
Edited by curenado (01/21/08 12:25 PM)
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hydes.cigarette
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Minion]
#7939854 - 01/27/08 11:43 AM (8 months, 11 days ago) |
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Hmm I'm currently helping a mushroom expert with her book on the many different species of possibly-medicinal mushrooms. I just finished editing/type-setting a chapter on Alaska mushrooms and was surprised to find that several of the 38 species she described actually were traditionally taken as anti-cancer medicine! There's supposedly also scientific proof for a few of them, although mostly done in Asian countries. I haven't checked the references though since I don't have convenient access to them, so I can't say how accurate or "scientific" these studies are.
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curenado
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Yeah, it sounds like you need to put in a few months of background and reference study. It's not that inconvenient to get access to study listings and relevant info.
All ours is practical and directly patient related, helpful is in the eye of the reader but
1) we had no hospitalizations and no deaths from flu or flu like illness this season (I think we are the only clinic in the area that can say that...) even though epidemic, mortality and child mortality levels were all over national baseline and
2) resistence was up to 4+ percent from less than 1 percent last year. (We saw this in people too) and
3) I had a 5x increase in patients manifesting hemoptosis (lung bleeding) when I actually had none last year.
Simply put, medicinal mushroom blends kept my adult and pedi patients "up out" of the local mess of it and the ones that did get sick got back out of it quickly with less severe symptoms.
This flu season was just practice (get ready...) but it did impact my practice in that I actually did have more than 1 or 2 people get sick and that is new for our patients...our nieghborhood/mountain is locally known for not getting strep or flu owing to the majority use of medicinal mushroom blends.
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Yours in the Natural State!
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep; but I have patches to keep, and jars to sterilize before I sleep...."
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1581935/page/2/fpart/1/vc/1 - The Psilocybe Medicine Thread
http://www.youtube.com/user/crystalwoman57 - Evidence of Life! (Barry Eubanks)
http://wildmountaindoctor.blogspot.com - Vanilla Blog for Hill Humor...
Edited by curenado (03/16/08 09:23 PM)
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#8449648 - 05/27/08 05:05 AM (4 months, 15 days ago) |
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Here is a very comprehensive site on this subject:
www.healing-mushrooms.net
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Anno]
#8458780 - 05/29/08 07:27 AM (4 months, 13 days ago) |
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That is a great link!
I make my own reishi tea.
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curenado
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: warriorsoul]
#8462963 - 05/30/08 08:58 AM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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Folks PLEASE BE AWARE (I'm sure ANNO, Roger Rabbit, Whiterasta and the old masters will agree) SOME medicinals may be consumed in larger amounts and frequently (Reishi, Cordys, Turkey Tails etc...) however, some of the medicinals (like the Earth Star and some polypores) are specifically NOT consumed that way and are used in much smaller amounts and/or with much less frequency so it is VERY advisable to read the whole information and learn all you can so that you don't inadvertently cause yourself powerful side effects or even maybe damage by literally "overdosing". There are great medicinal mushrooms that in the right amounts are great and in the wrong amounts are considered neurotoxic with noticeable effects.
ALWAYS READ ALL THE INFORMATION Through especially comments on side effects and dosing, and when in doubt consult, consult, consult - I do very frequently and I have practiced medicine with numerous mushroom species for a decade and am considered the "arch-over" authority in my region (not that hard where I live but still) on integrative and biological medicine so that's my best advice - problems arise through not enough or misinformation.
OK! Hate to clog this thread up with comments but thought that was relative enough.
Best Wishes Always!
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EDIT/Addendum: MUSHROOMS & CHILDREN
I have a number of pediatric patients, ages 2-10, who use G&M mushrooms in lieu of commercial antibiotics, breathing/allergy medications & etc. I add these notes here owing to the increasing number of folks who are using mycomeds and their children.
Mushrooms typically are a "by weight" dosage though the dose parameters are fairly wide. Children will show side effects quickly from overuse though they are not serious and readily subside with temporary discontinuation and reduced dosing/frequency according to individual and condition. Specifically though and in all cases:
1) Children may manifest hematuria (fresh red blood in the urine) and epistaxis (spontaneous nose bleeds) if they are consuming too much reishi mushroom, and other mushrooms that affect platelet aggregation. Again: This is not serious and is easily fixed by stopping mushrooms for a day or two and then refiguring your dose/frequency. Children respond extremely well to mycomeds (as do some animals like dogs & cats) and don't usually require the frequency of adult humans.
So you don't necessarily need to panic and run for the ER if this happens to you, it's just a little surprising.
2) Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) enhances reishi and children who drink a lot of juice and/or take Vit. C supplements may manifest the nosebleed or trace in the urine at lower amounts.
3) A typical dose here for a child is about 1/2 of a "00" capsule (I'll weigh one up at the school and add later) per 50 lbs. 1-2 times per day. If infection present we add about 1/4 gram/day vitamin C because ours are juice drinkers regularly.
These concepts aren't hard to approach with information and gaining a more intimate understanding of your own and your childs health and body tolerances. A great deal of doctor and ER visits can be prevented (in a infection increasing environment...) with simple diet additions and the "domestic administration of home remedies" as it is so called.
Best Always!
Edited by curenado (06/27/08 09:00 AM)
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: curenado]
#8536514 - 06/18/08 08:59 AM (3 months, 24 days ago) |
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I am a cancer patient and follow this site http://sci.cancerresearchuk.org/labs/med_mush/med_mush.html for research into medicinal mushrooms related to the treatment of cancer. In the last few years some great research suggest that compounds in mushrooms may lead to the next round of cancer treatment breakthroughs. As mentioned it is important to research the use and dosage of any compound BEFORE ingesting it.
If anyone has information on a vendor that sales Ganoderma lucidum spores/syringes please pm me, it is commercially grown and has properties i am very interested in, but i cannot find a single person willing to share, most i contact claim there stuff is isolated, blah blah and won't come off a few spores 
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: exuviae]
#8536652 - 06/18/08 09:56 AM (3 months, 24 days ago) |
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A shroomery sponsor that sells it:
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Ganoderma-lucidum--Reishi-Ling-Chi-Mushroom-p-16139.html
Often you can get health stores to order you in the pills, and maybe one of our sponsors caries the pills as well:
http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php
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