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 What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) 
#7877011 - 01/14/08 05:13 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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------I'm writing/I wrote this at 3 am so i'm sorry if bits are redundant or incoherent, i tried my best  ------
Before i start with the story, let me start by saying that i am in no way "experienced" with *anything*, and have only even smoked pot maybe 6 times, this experience being the last one (about 2 months ago), which i think was a very weird experience, as do all my "druggy" friends so I decided to post this. Oh, and i'm new here so hey guys and thanks for your time if you decide to read this and post
Anyway, onto the story (and please excuse any incorrect terminology lol)
One day one of my friends "C" ("experienced" user, pretty much done everything over the last 3 years) asked me (David) if i wanted to smoke after school. I'm not one to turn down free pot so i agreed and said i'd see him after school. After school was finished, i drove to my girlfriend "P"s house where we then took her car (mine was low on gas) to my other friend "S"s house to pick him up to go over to C's house (this was all planned, i didn't just invite them with me). When we arrived, we went to his room where we found him sleeping. After we woke him up we did the obligatory "how was school, blah blah blah" thing and he proceeded to get things ready. He took out his bong and weed (sour something, i forget the name) and started to load a bowl while P and I looked at some book filled with like tips on growing weed and articles and cool pictures and stuff. After it was loaded, he explained to S (who had never hit a bong before) how to hit one, and then demonstrated for him. S didn't feel comfortable enough so he wanted me to go first, so i did.
Now, although i had hit a bong before, i had never 'worked' it myself (i always had someone else do the lighter) so i decided now was as good a time as any to get the lighter thing down. I exhaled all my breath so that i could inhale more, pressed my mouth to the rim, lit the bowl, started to make the water bubble and just kept going until right before i ran out of breath when i lifted the bowl thing and inhaled all the smoke. After i inhaled all the smoke i inhaled a little air outside of the bong (i was taught to do this, dunno if this has anything to do with it). I held the smoke in for maybe 20 seconds and exhaled. I don't know if I really do it this well, but EVERY time i hit a pipe or bong, the people with me, who are quite experienced, always say "god this kid fucking rips it every time". I say this because i think all details of the act need to be included for any help later(?). Anyway, i then began to cough uncontrollably, way worse than i had ever coughed before. For like a full minute i could do nothing except cough until i very abruptly stopped coughing and no longer felt the need to. I was high! When I'm high, my vision becomes sort of "fuzzy" in a way, and i get a warm, very nice, tingling sensation all over my body, sort of like pins and needles but amazing feeling and both of those things were present. I then, very fuzzily, watched as P filled the bong with smoke and, as always, was unable to clear all the smoke and quite clumsily made 3 attempts to get the smoke out of the bong neck thingy. I believe it was at this time when i requested that the cd i brought (Telefon Tel Aviv) be put in. "What's the use of Feet if you Haven't got Legs" began playing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc05OfKDlz0 listen to it!) and that's when things got weird.
My normal warm pins and needles sensation started to go from very nice feeling to just plain uncomfortable. It made me want to like twist and move around in a futile attempt to escape it, but before it could bother me much more, the music captivated me, and i sat on C's futon and swayed uncontrollably to the music as i made wavy motions with both of my hands, also to the beat.
This is when it really changed. At this point i was no longer high. I was waaaaaay better than high, a completely different feeling, a much much stronger feeling that i was totally unprepared for. My field of vision became completely dark, with the occasional white or yellow "lightning strike" through it depending on what sound the song made and i was unaware of whether my eyes were open or closed. As soon as i realized what was happening i demanded the music be turned off because i felt that if it stayed on i would be carried off somewhere and never come back, but quite the contrary, with the absence of music i felt like i got higher and higher.
This is when i sort of "branched off" into 2 different me's. One of them stayed with my body and was living, seeing, and acting through it while the other was experiencing a strange high the i'll go into soon. It's like 2 different memories were being created at the same time. At this point my body was ordering P that she needed to get on the ground and i had grabbed her hard (though not to hurt her, just very firm) and forced her from her position on the futon onto the the floor and i absolutely for the life of me cannot think of any reason this needed to be done, and i dont at all recall controlling myself to do this. It's like it was happening through no will of my own, but i was witnessing it in first person. C and S, as well as of course P, started to be like "whoa david what's wrong?" at this point
I have a gap in my memory now of what my body was doing, but my mind was going crazy. Everything started to have those like "going real fast" streaks to the right and the red walls of C's room started to turn into red flowing water which was also going to the right. I suppose I got up from my position on the floor and returned to the futon because all my visuals are from my seat on the futon. S was now a weird figure who resembled a person but had a square head (like the 2 bad guys from gumby) that had a small chicken-like beak in place of a mouth and sponge-bob like eyes and his faux-hawk had turned into what i would imagine to be a Picasso rendition of the same hair. Shit, his entirety could have been a crazy Picasso rendition. P had turned into a strange Amoeba thing the same color as her shirt whose arms grew and shrank until she disappeared. C was some weird also blobby thing that sorta looked like a sideways fish.
I remember I stared at S for the longest time because, as everything else was blobby and rounded off, I could not figure out how his head could be a solid square shape if nothing else was. I know i've been saying it for a while, but NOW the weird bit happens. I "LOST" what people were. I didn't forget, i knew that i SHOULD know what people were, i just COULDN'T know what they were. I looked at S and knew that i should know that he's a person but i didn't know how i could know that or how it could make sense or even why it could make sense. It just did not make sense at all. I forgot who i was, had absolutely no mental connection to my body. I could remember what i looked like but people still didn't make sense so i just didn't know how what i remembered could be what i was. Then, for some reason, i could picture exactly how the inside of my mouth looked as if i were my tongue, and whenever P, C, or S spoke (I was still aware of what was going on around my body, such as what they were saying to me, i just didn't know how to get to them, it's like i was stuck in my "new reality") their words would become elongated and form long speech bubbles, each containing a single word, but the speech bubbles didn't come from anything, they just were. This happened especially whenever someone would say the name of someone.
I remember thinking about how i had just come from school and how i had parked my car outside of P's house, but i didn't know how i could remember that if it never happened. It was the strangest feeling ever, knowing that you remembered something but being unsure how you could remember it if it never happened. Sort of like a reverse dream, except the world we know as reality is the dream world and my new high was the real world and i had no knowledge of the concept of dreaming. It would be the same as if i suddenly started recalling events from a past life but had no idea what these events were. I dont even know how to explain it so this will have to do. As i delved further and further into my new world (which was now just a swirl of red, gold, white, green, blue, and a tinge of faint pink and the only existing things being ideas) i began to question how one remembers something. (The weird thing is that none of these ideas, none of my body movements, nothing that's about to happen was controlled by me. It all just happened. I knew that i was doing it but i could do nothing to stop or further anything that was going on. So when i say i started to think about something, i mean i had no choice, it's just what happened.) And when i started to question how you remember things, i again "lost" how to remember things. I didn't forget it, it just went away. So now i was left with basically nothing except ideas that worked inter-dependently because i could not remember anything from before so there is no way i could have built on it.
It's about this time that i felt like i was dying. I have no idea what dying feels like, but the only thought happening in my new world of swirling colors was "Am i dying? Is this what dying is like?" even so far as to think "Am i dead already? Was I even ever alive?" My concern must have escaped my body's mouth because it was at this time that C had flipped the book I was looking at earlier on it's back to show me a sentence on the back cover that said "Number of deaths from smoking pot - 0." I'm not sure which one happened first since both memories seem to be near or at the same time, like i said it's like my body and mind had 2 different recounts of the experience. And everytime i remember something, it's not as if it's suddenly there, but instead as if it was there all along and i had simply been not focusing on it. Similar to how a camera can focus on a close up object with a fuzzy background, and then the camera can switch focus to the background with a fuzzy foreground, both are there at the same time it's just how you focus on it.
Anyway back to my swirly place. After having "lost" everything, I was left with only the single word "Idea" which i had no idea of the meaning. Also, now in the direct center of my swirly world (it was like a screen, no looking around the swirly world, it just was) was a circle divided into 3 equal size sections, one blue, one green, one red. It's as if the 3 separate colors formed to make the circle, not as if a circle was divided 3 ways. With the presence of the weird "peace sign" of colors, my thought shifted from "am i dying/dead?" to a completely awestruck "what IS this?" Unable to comprehend the new guest in my world, i found that the word "Idea" sort of 'unlocked' the blue section of the peace sign which i will now refer to as "the puzzle" because it sure as hell felt like it was a puzzle.
I don't know how but when i thought of the word "Idea" the blue part of the puzzle moved back away from the rest of the pieces as if it was unlocking it, which is why i call it a puzzle. I don't remember what the other 2 pieces special unlock code was but i remember it was very hard to figure out because i had nothing to work with as i had forgotten everything. To figure out the puzzle i had to think of things in a special cyclical order, starting with "Idea" and if i messed up, all the pieces would float back to their original spots once again forming the "peace sign." After figuring out this bitch of a puzzle, all the pieces would disappear and in their place would be a huge ball of white light. When i unlocked the puzzle and the white light was there, i could hear music, but it was as if the music had been there all along and i was just now focusing on it. I'm certain there was no music in the room for my body to hear, and that the music i was hearing was life's music that was always playing, but that you are unable to hear because you've been listening to it without knowing for so long. It was a sort of electronic sound, but it also sounded entirely organic. Like a creature or thing made those electronic sounds, but made them in such a way that it made the best song i have ever heard. In addition to the song, i got the most intense feeling of warmth, contentment, love, and total knowledge of everything in the world. At that point, i was convinced that life was entirely about getting as high as i was and experiencing this fucking awesome music, and how good this light makes you feel at the same time. Words cannot even begin to describe the combination of the warm, loving feeling and the music together.
After I did this a few times, the white ball of light started to remind me of something that i knew i remembered, but i couldn't remember what it was. It was my gf P. Something about the way the light made me feel reminded me of P. When i remembered this, everything started slowly coming back. I remembered that I smoked pot and got super high, and that was enough to return me back to the distorted Picasso-like reality. But as reality returned, I was unsure as to whether getting P back was worth losing the comforting feeling of the light and the amazingly kick ass music. This in itself created a world of confusion that made me want to shoot myself to escape. In the end i decided i wanted P more and tried desperately to focus on anything that would be familiar to help bring me back. Caught in a now limbo-like plane between the swirly world and real world, i didn't understand how the real world could be the real world when it didn't feel even half as real as my new swirly world felt. Everything in the swirly world was just easier, and more real, and everything just made more sense to me, i didn't understand.
This is when P started to look into my eyes while i was sitting on the futon and said something to the effect of "I know this looks like david but it just...this isn't david, not right now it isn't, he's somewhere else."
This statement just totally flipped my shit and turned my so far awesome experience to complete shit. And i'm pretty tired of typing and since the main part of my story is over i'll skip over the end details real fast.
I proceeded to make a mad dash to try to get her to remember me. "Remember me P, please remember me." I would say. C, S, and P all say that everytime i talked it was just dead serious, absolutely cold and lacking all emotion, like i was a robot talking, but I swear i've never put more emotion into trying to say anything as when i was trying to get P to remember me. For the next, what seemed like weeks i was trying to return to the real world, despite it feeling less real than the swirly world, so that P could finally remember me. It makes no sense but at the time it made perfect sense. After a while C finally said "There, he's back" and he's right. I was. After what felt like at least a few months i was finally back but it had only been, at most, 5 minutes! To this day i still refuse to believe it was only about 5 minutes but whatever, time is time.
Alright, that's the experience, and now on to my question
My initial absolute horrific reaction to my experience (due mainly, i think, to S freaking out, C just saying "I've never seen this happen in my entire life," and P not remembering me because i was doing fine before that) I started to appreciate how good i felt despite how terrible i felt when things started going wrong and i've decided i really want to experience that again.
My question is, what drug is my experience comparable to? I want more than anything to understand just what the hell happened, but this time i want to at least expect it instead of it sneaking up and bitting my ass off. And i think having the experience again will help me to understand what happened. I haven't smoked since, but what are the odds i can get that experience again from smoking?
And another question, does anyone have any ideas or theories as to how my experience even happened? C said he's heard of that stuff happening on shrooms but never on just weed. I'm positive the weed wasn't laced because 3 people had the same weed and nothing happened to them besides getting high. I later found out that i took a 20$ hit and cashed the whole bowl. Could it be that since i dont smoke this was just way the hell too much for me to handle, or do i have some like weird latent mental disorder that interpretted the THC as something else? Any insight at all would help, and i swear i'm not making a bit of this up. I just thought i'd throw that in incase someone is like "oh bullshit"
I just want to know how i can get that expereince again so that i can hope to understand it better
Thanks for your time! 
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 Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: davidequal]
#7877033 - 01/14/08 05:32 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Um.. just sounds like you got really high and didn't know what to make of it.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: davidequal]
#7877037 - 01/14/08 05:42 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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 nice writing skills
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: davidequal]
#7877045 - 01/14/08 05:46 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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iv had experiences where i knew where i was but i wasn't there, more because i made myself do that, because it is fun to be, in a way, two places at once, it felt like i was talking to the actual people around me and at the same time learning things in a different world, which seems to me what you experienced just on a higher level.
If i would compare it to a drug that normally does this to me it would be shrooms which i have only done twice, iv had this feeling while just high, but shrooms did it to me both times and then further more like what you seemed to experience.
did you actually literally see the puzzle or was what you all saw more like a mental picture, because that has happened a lot to me while high but iv never interacted with it like you seemed to
also iv had friends who have gotten insanely high and have hallucinated and become completely dissociated and pretty much tripped for 5 minutes but they also had more then one hit but i guess i could see if you pretty much have no tolerance and take one big hit of good shit how it could happen
Overall all though that is an amazing story
and just a thought but i kinda think its possible although highly unlikely to get that off of a little salvia resin but was there salvia in the bowl previously?
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: ManInTheCorner]
#7877083 - 01/14/08 06:41 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, I must say that is quite weird. I did read an experiance like this one once though.
Here: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=14584
It's the same sort of thing that you experienced, something that seems to be much more then a regular stoning sesh!
And like ManInTheCorner said, if you do wanna experience this kind of reality again then shrooms are probably your best bet.
Good luck man, and great story!
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: idreamofpiggies]
#7877096 - 01/14/08 07:00 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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aaah, the joyous days of young potsmoking  . I have had similar experiences, where i felt as if i were in an alternate reality, or like i were a dead/dying etc. really that's my favorite part of smoking. for being such a mild drug, weed can sometimes be not-so-mild.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: SaulGood]
#7877136 - 01/14/08 07:57 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats what I call good weed
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: MorrisonHotel]
#7877450 - 01/14/08 11:05 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds like you got your psychedelic-ass kicked due to great weed and no tolerance. I think your body chemistry must be really unique because even people who never smoke weed and then one day go all out usually don't get effects like that.
Excellent report man.
If i didn't read the first part of it i would swear it was a Salvia trip report, i've had similar mind blowing experiences in 5 minutes time on salvia extracts. Which is why i would say if you want to re-create a similar experience, lady sally might be the ticket for a short ride like that. But i would say you'll have a better shot and a better experience altogether with mushrooms as long as you don't mind being in that altered tripping state for 4-6 hours.
Edited by opensaysme (01/14/08 11:07 AM)
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: davidequal]
#7877595 - 01/14/08 11:51 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good weed, zero tolerance, and a huge rip from a bong can result in you absolutely tripping out. Last time I did something similar, I closed my eyes and saw a dancing cat and mouse either side of a picture frame that had an entire universe inside it. These things happen.
It seems to me you just have an incredibly low tolerance to weed. This is actually a very good thing. You can get very high smoking only a tiny amount of bud. Try experimenting with just packing tiny amounts into a bowl, until you find the amount needed to achieve an enjoyable but not overwhelming high.
Also, when stuff like this happens, confusion usually results from trying to fight it and make sense of it. If it happens again, just lie back and observe what is happening. Try to enjoy it.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: EllisDSox]
#7877645 - 01/14/08 12:06 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is by far the LONGEST post about getting high. In my years of smoking the only thing that ever confused me was the time I got so high I almost forgot how to read for a minute or two.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: davidequal]
#7877703 - 01/14/08 12:34 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've never heard of such an extreme reaction from just pot, so it's almost hard for me to believe there were no other drugs involved in any way here. From the description it sounds like you smoked pot laced with PCP in a bong resinated with DMT and salvia, but assuming that's not the case(...?) you have to put down the intensity of the experience to a virgin brain with unique chemistry receiving a high dose of THC (and other cannabinoids).
I'm unclear about how recreational this experience was, but if all the things you say are true--especially that all you smoked was pot--just know there is a remote but important possibility that the pot did in fact manifest some weird-ass latent mental disorder. Keep an eye on your cognition.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: davidequal]
#7877831 - 01/14/08 01:22 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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except for it being 5 minutes, i must say it can happen with weed, but I think your friend had a bit of salvia in the bong from the day before.
that would explain the intensity and the 5 minutes part.
bear in mind any strong psychedelic can cause moments to stack up like that so you may easily encounter more than one timestream, and more than one self and less than the usual comfort with word-meanings, however, salvia and dmt will do a thing like this for 5 minutes or so and then let go.
I think you had a salvia trip
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: davidequal]
#7878069 - 01/14/08 02:20 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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You definitely did not have a salvia trip or a DMT trip or anything like that. Marijuana is a potent hallucinogen at times, especially for the inexperienced user. Here's how I interpret what happened. You had some Sour Diesel, which is some bomb super dank, you ripped it out of a bong and took a huge hit, you held it in for a long time and you coughed. All of these things contribute to a more powerful marijuana experience. You just got blitzed son 
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: Gastronomicus]
#7878322 - 01/14/08 03:19 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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5 minutes?
THC sticks around longer - even for a temporary episode.
I agree it can do this, just not so briefly.
I think the pipe was not cleaned first
they did get the host out of bed who just grabbed his bong without taking a bath.
he's a dozy one.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: redgreenvines]
#7878525 - 01/14/08 04:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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The guy took a 20 dollar (anywhere from 1-2 grams depending on geographic location) hit of Sour Diesel from a bong, he was just ripped. The hallucinations from marijuana are very short lived. Just recently I smoked a couple bowls out of my friend's glass-on-glass. I hadn't hit a bong in a couple of months and before the second bowl was even done I was having insane OEV's. Gem patterns behind everything, swirling multi-colored shapes, I even thought I saw a person come out of the shadows. With the effect marijuana has on a person's sense of time, it is easily possible to have intense hallucinations from weed that seem to last forever but in reality take only 5 minutes. Congratulations davidequal, you've experienced cannabis's full potential
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: redgreenvines]
#7878539 - 01/14/08 04:13 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hahahahahaha I love weed.
When I started smoking I loved shit like this, I would just be in couch lock mode for hours.
Now I don't get as high and the high is a lot clearer, in some ways I actually prefer it like this.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: g00ru]
#7878573 - 01/14/08 04:23 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I tought Sally for sure... But weed can do weird things(Ive had Auditory Hallucinations plenty of times). Good report anyhow.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: Awebig]
#7878615 - 01/14/08 04:37 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude, I didn't read your entire story. I'm going to get really blazed this week and take another look through the whole thing, I think that'll be really awesome to do  . If you want to hear my take on it, you're a shaman. But you got dumped into a totally new experience, your first real trip, and didn't know what to make of it. For some people, and I think in popular culture, weed is just for getting "high", for fun... but you can learn from it just as much as you can from mushrooms, if you let yourself respect it as something sacred, not just something to get off.
I don't know if that sounds like stupid mambo jambo spiritual shit to you, but I believe it. You're really sensitive to the herb and you've got a gift. Try exploring getting really high by yourself, and just thinking about things, letting yourself go, whatever. The problem with all this is that your friends will think you're flipping out, lol. That's why you should do it by yourself first, learn where it can take you. I've seen, and felt, some pretty awesome things on pot, but I admit, I'm talking a lot of bullshit right now... not because it's a lie, but because I'm so new to all this myself. Anyhow, I think if you reject all this, you'll miss out on some incredible things, so see if you can reassure your friends, and find some time to smoke the reefer alone.
Good vibes man, Peace.
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: NineStorms]
#7878678 - 01/14/08 04:58 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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I read this. Very strange and interresting
Heavy doses of mushroom do the same to me 
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Re: What the hell was this? (weird experience, story inside) [Re: Justice_Fish]
#7878869 - 01/14/08 05:47 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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The story seems very reasonable for an inexperienced person who is sensitive to weed when given a good quantity of quality stuff. I've had some intense experiences myself, though nothing close to what you've described.
My advice would be not to overdo it. As in, don't smoke every day (or even every week). Try and maintain and prolong the magic of the experience by saving it for appropriate occasions.
Also, perhaps try some hash cake? I found that the experience is somewhat different to smoking; the "puzzle" / "mystery" element seemed much stronger and the experience generally felt cleaner and clearer to me. Plus, it can last up to 7 hours.
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