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STOCKS - A Beginner's Guide & Running Record
#7827359 - 01/03/08 12:56 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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[Note: Due to the nature of the financial market, the information in this thread becomes rapidly outdated. Please refer to the most recent posts at the end of the thread for relatively current recommendations.]
SINCE STARTING THIS THREAD, I HAVE BEEN RECEIVING QUITE A FEW PM'S FROM PEOPLE INTERESTED IN INVESTING THEIR OWN MONEY, LOOKING FOR ADVICE ON WHERE TO START. THEREFORE, I HAVE INCLUDED SOME BASIC SUGGESTIONS RIGHT HERE FROM THE GET GO:
First off, if you have less than $10,000 available to invest, it may be wise to start out in a low-fee S&P 500 Index Fund (such as the Vanguard 500 - VFINX). This will leave you with a diversified portfolio that closely mimics the overall market. In other words, you won't have to worry about underperforming the market, and since the long-term average market return has beaten any other asset class over the last many decades, this is not just the lazy man's way out, but actually a very sound investment strategy!
If you want to take on more risk with the potential for greater reward, you can try investing in an actively managed mutual fund such as the CGM Focus Fund (CGMFX), which is managed by Ken Heebner and has an extremely impressive performance record - up 54% in 2000 (when the market was down 10%), up 48% in 2001 (market down 13%), down 18% in 2002 (market down more than 23%), up 66% in 2003 (market up 26%). More recently his fund returned over 79% in 2007, a year where the average market returned about 4%!
An actively managed mutual fund like the CGM Focus Fund will not offer you the same amount of diversification as an index fund (I'll explain why diversification is so important later), but being actively managed by an experienced and high quality manager makes it a smart move for young investors who don't mind taking on a little more risk for the potentially significant reward over the long term. Because a managed fund is only as good as its manager, the only homework you need to do with an actively managed mutual fund is to make sure that the fund manager hasn't left or been replaced!
So, you're ready to trade individual stocks...
If you have at least $10,000 and want to actively trade individual stocks, you need to begin by watching the market for at least a few months. Setup an account with a discount online brokerage (typically charging $5 - $10 per trade) such as TDAmeritrade, E*Trade, Charles Schwab, or ScotTrade and familiarize yourself with their tools. There are alternatives that offer lower commissions per trade ($1 - $3 per trade), but they likely won't offer the same quality or quantity of research tools. For low commission trading without all the nifty bells and whistles, visit Interactive Brokers.
Create a model portfolio or watch list before you start playing with your own money. Remember that downside protection is the most important thing you can do for yourself. If you can successfully limit your losses, the upside will take care of itself. Now, for some basic rules that should help you become a better investor...
Diversification. In other words, don't keep all of your eggs in one basket! This will help protect you from sudden steep losses, so try to pick at least 4 or 5 different stocks in efforts to evenly distribute your risk across different sectors of the economy. Even if you know one sector is absolutely on fire, you need to keep your money spread around in different sectors in case that hot sector falls out of favor. Diversification will substantially limit your downside. Even so, there is a practical limit for the individual investor. Try not to get involved with more than 10 stocks, as doing so will make it very difficult to stay up to date on the news affecting each of your positions, which is absolutely necessary in order to make timely decisions.
An example of a Diversified Portfolio:
- mineral/mining - Agnico-Eagle Mines (AEM)
- oil/energy - Transocean (RIG)
- agricultural - Deere & Co' (DE)
- consumer staples - Protctor & Gamble (PG)
- telecommunications - AT&T (T)
- technology - Microsoft (MSFT)
- healthcare - St. Jude Medical (STJ)
- defence - Lockheed Martin (LMT)
Do your Homework. For each stock you currently own or are about to purchase, you can expect to spend at least one hour per week keeping up to date on general news, press releases, quarterly and annual reports, conference calls, etc. The markets move fast, so you need to stay up to date. If you don't have the time to do this, hand your money over to an actively managed mutual fund or index fund, where you can still reap the rewards of the best long-term asset class currently available, without the stress and time requirement of managing your own money.
Only own stocks that you can understand. Don't buy into hype, instead develop a thesis for why you believe the company or sector you are investing in will do better than expected in the future, as well as what will help protect you from losing money (such as quarterly dividends and stock buy backs). If you don't know how a company makes its money, you won't know how to react to breaking news. Make sure you can understand what it is that your company does, and recognize the downside risk.
Learn how to read a balance sheet. Every company trading on a major US exchange will provide public financial documents such as their balance sheet, which will provide valuable information regarding the health of the company in question. Do your best to avoid companies that are loaded down with debt. Look for companies that have no debt, or are actively paying down their debt, and are increasing revenues and earnings. Most online brokers will conveniently provide this data for you, but you can also find what you need at http://www.sec.gov
Once you decide to invest in a specific stock, never buy all at once. Everyone will make mistakes. You want to scale into positions slowly over time, so that you can take advantage of when the market drops. In similar fashion, you want to scale out of your positions by selling over time as the stock continues to appreciate in value, thereby protecting your downside by locking in profits just in case there should be an unexpected drop on the horizon (which you could then consider using as an opportunity to buy back the stock at a lower price).
Don't turn a trade into an investment. If you buy a stock for a specific catalyst (such as an expected new product announcement, takeover, merger approval, drug approval, etc), don't turn that trade into an investment by holding onto it if your catalyst does not pan out. Learn to recognize which trades you are considering for short-term catalysts, and which investments you are considering for their long term growth potential. Stick with your original plan and don't be afraid to sell at a loss if things are not playing out the way you had anticipated. There is no sense in hoping that a stock will come back up, not all stocks will recover, and some will even go to $0.
Always keep cash on hand - Never keep yourself fully invested! This was the biggest mistake I made in the beginning of my trading career. If you keep all of your cash committed, you are basically saying that you don't believe the market can drop from this point. With no cash on the sidelines, you can't take advantage of buying your favorite stocks on sale when the market turns negative! Try to keep at least 10% of your portfolio (the money you have for investing) in cash, so that you can put it to work when there are unexpected drops in the market. If the market has taken an unusually strong positive advance, start selling the stocks that have gone up the most, because there will eventually be a pullback.
Mind you, I'm not a professional, but I have been at this for a few years now and I feel that I am getting a better handle on it with each additional day of experience - it is not easy. The market is very difficult right now, and though I had a handsome 24% gain in 2007, I have been bleeding money in 2008 and underperforming the market so far this year. Be very cautious, and if you want to put some money on the line as you teach yourself about the market, do it through an S&P 500 index fund as I first mentioned in this post.
I will use the remainder of this thread to keep you updated on stocks I am eyeing, and the moves I am making with my own money. So feel free to follow along, and I welcome any suggestions or concerns you may have about any statements I make. It is through criticism and subsequent analysis, that I aim to become a better investor.
Original Post:
Happy New Year everyone. As anyone who has held even a tepid ear to the goings on of the world economy and the US stock market in particular, you know that there is a lot of uncertainty in the air, which has resulted in some wild volatility (up and down movement) in the markets. Oil is at $100, gold is over $850, domestic residential housing is in the pits, consumer sentiment is down as a direct result of the housing and credit related problems, and banks are struggling to maintain capital as they realize a good lot of their investments are practically worthless (they just can't sell them).
With that in mind, and considering the potential for continued volatility and widespread economic recession (indeed certain sectors such as housing and financials are already in recession), medical related companies are a good place to keep your capital working for you, with limited downside risk even as sales of discretionary retail items may be falling off a cliff. I think we can all relate to the simple fact that people still need their drugs!
Medical stocks are defensive. Therefore, I will present three ideas for the avid investor to consider in 2008 (and a bonus speculative pick for you risk takers).
- St. Jude Medical (STJ) - Currently Trading @ $40.25 / share
Develops, manufactures, and distributes cardiovascular medical devices. The principle products produced are tachycardia implantable cardioverter defibrillator systems (ICDs) and bradycardia pacemaker systems (pacemakers); mechanical and tissue heart valves and valve repair products; neurostimulation devices; closure devices, guidewires, hemostasis introducers and other interventional cardiology products, and electrophysiology (EP) introducers and catheters, advanced cardiac mapping and navigation systems and ablation systems.
- Schering-Plough Corp (SGP) - Currently Trading @ $26.70 / share
A global science-based health care company with prescription, consumer and animal health products. Schering-Plough has three segments: Prescription Pharmaceuticals, Consumer Health Care and Animal Health. The Prescription Pharmaceuticals segment discovers, develops, manufactures and markets human pharmaceutical products. The Consumer Health Care segment develops, manufactures and markets over-the-counter (OTC), foot care and sun care products. The Animal Health segment discovers, develops, manufactures and markets animal health products. In November 2007, the Company completes acquisition of Organon BioSciences N.V. from Akzo Nobel N.V. This acquisition should help SGP generate above-average earnings growth over the coming year.
- CVS Caremark (CVS) - Currently Trading @ $36.50
Operates in the retail drugstore industry in the United States. As of December 30, 2006, the Company operated 6,202 retail and specialty pharmacy stores in 43 states and the District of Columbia. The Company operates in two segments: Retail Pharmacy and Pharmacy Benefit Management (PBM). The Company sells prescription drugs and an assortment of general merchandise, including over-the-counter drugs, beauty products and cosmetics, film and photo finishing services, seasonal merchandise, greeting cards and convenience foods, through its CVS/pharmacy retail stores. The PBM business provides a range of prescription benefit management services to managed care and other organizations. In March 2007, CVS Corporation completed the acquisition of Caremark Rx Inc. The combined company is named CVS/Caremark Corporation.
This one is special, as numbers came out this morning that have showed lower than expected "same store sales growth" - which is the key metric in evaluating companies that operate retail stores. It has been particularly hard hit on the news, as soft numbers also came out for Walgreen and Rite Aid... and CVS is down over 7% this afternoon. The best news here, is the Caremark Pharmacy Benefit Management acquisition, which should set it apart from the other retail drug stores. As more drugs come off patent and generic equivalents are made available, CVS Caremark will make higher profits on the sales of those generics than they would have made for the name brand drugs. Here is the research that caught my attention: "Despite a slow start to the flu season, [CVS] will very likely see strong demand on the retail side in this area over the next couple of months. More and more prescriptions are also moving over to generic alternatives, which carry higher margins for CVS. Finally, slower retail sales will not affect the secular growth of the company's pharmacy benefits management arm, Caremark. And rather than paying 25 times expected 2008 earnings for similar businesses like Express Scripts (ESRX) and Medco Health (MHS), we can get the same business embedded in CVS Caremark at 16 times next year's expected profits."
For those interested in taking on a lot more risk (with potentially fantastic reward), I would look into First Solar (FSLR). This is I believe the only company that builds solar modules without the use of silicon, and therefore is not at the mercy of the commodity price for silicon wafers. Additionally, it has great visibility in terms of future contracts, and a lot of room to grow on top of what it has already booked in its backlog (secured future contracts). If FSLR drops back to $250 (currently trading at $267.50), I'll initiate a position of 25% of what I intend to ultimately invest in the name, with a time horizon of 1 - 3 years. Given its astronomical run over the last year, I would start picking away at it slowly, hoping that it comes down even more so that you can get a better price.
Disclosures: Initiated a 30% position in shares of SGP last month at $26.71. Initiated a 50% position in shares of STJ for my Roth IRA retirement account last week at $40.65. Initiated a 50% position in shares of CVS today at $36.50.
Here's hoping 2008 will be a profitable year for you and yours!
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: geokills]
#7827392 - 01/03/08 01:06 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: geokills]
#7827405 - 01/03/08 01:08 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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A quick tip from me
GERON CORP (NasdaqGM:GERN) - currently $5.58
The own loads of patents on stem cell technologies. Great potential long term, plus they would also benefit a little in the short term from a Democrat win in the election
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: Baeosistine]
#7827421 - 01/03/08 01:14 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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As the magical man Jim Cramer would say: Tips are for Waiters!
Ironic, as that's pretty much what I'm giving you all. But what I'm really doing here is attempting to document or journal my own personal investments, so that I can review the decisions I've made over time, and see if my thesis is proven true, or where I went wrong. Everyone should invest for themselves and only after having done their own due diligence and research. If someone is giving you a "stock tip", it's probably not any good and here's why. Either the person already owns the stock and is trying to convince others to buy or sell in order to move the stock to their benefit, or if the tip is actually a legitimate one, it is probably based on insider information which if you trade on it, can land you heavy fines and lots of trouble with the SEC. Therefore, save the tips for the waiters!
I'm making this thread (and any subsequent ones) for my own personal evaluation, and hopefully to get some other people directly involved with their finances and interested in investing (as one thing's for sure, investing is a key factor to most fortunes made today). Don't just go and buy something because someone tells you to. Listen to their ideas, but do your own fact checking and research. Most of all, do what makes you feel most comfortable, and only invest in what you can personally understand.
On that note, Geron (GERN) is incredibly speculative (i.e. risky). I personally wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. The company has no earnings, has been hit or miss on its earnings/loss estimates in the past, and the future estimates are for increasing losses! It hasn't done much for four years and is currently trading at its 52-week low. While it is true, that should some miraculous turnaround occur and this company suddenly becomes profitable it will make you rich... it is a general rule of thumb that I refuse to invest in companies that are not currently turning a profit. On the upside, it looks like Geron is paying down its debt quite substantially, while increasing its cash and short term investments. This is a very positive sign, but this one still carries more risk than I'm willing to accept.
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Edited by geokills (01/03/08 01:21 PM)
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: geokills]
#7827437 - 01/03/08 01:17 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I like your pics. Here's a few of my own.
I've been watching a few domestic energy companies specificly because the high fuel prices. $100 oil will continue to rise as the World's economy continues to grow. This higher fuel cost has benefited domestic energy companies heavily invested in existing plays that were previously too costly to produce. As the world's demand grows, we will depend more and more on domestic resources.
Here are some of the businesses that will benefit from such a scenario.
Sandridge Energy (SD) $33.99
Headquartered in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, SandRidge Energy, Inc. is a rapidly growing independent natural gas and oil company concentrating in exploration, development and production activities.
Our focus is to expand reserves and production in the West Texas Overthrust (WTO), an area located in Pecos and Terrell counties in West Texas. The WTO is a natural gas prone geological province encompassing 1.3 million acres which includes the Piñon Field prospect. SandRidge also has significant operated leasehold positions in the Cotton Valley Trend in East Texas, the Gulf Coast area, the Piceance Basin, as well as other non-core operating areas.
Chesapeake Energy (CHK) 40.72
Chesapeake Energy Corporation (Chesapeake) is an independent producer of natural gas in the United States, and owns interests in approximately 34,600 producing oil and natural gas wells that are producing approximately 1.7 billion cubic feet equivalent (bcfe) per day, 92% of which is natural gas. The Company?s operations are located in the Mid-Continent region, which includes Oklahoma, Arkansas, southwestern Kansas and the Texas Panhandle; the Forth Worth Basin in north-central Texas; the Appalachian Basin, principally in West Virginia, eastern Kentucky, eastern Ohio and southern New York; the Permian and Delaware Basins of West Texas and eastern New Mexico; the Ark-La-Tex area of East Texas and northern Louisiana; and the South Texas and Texas Gulf Coast regions. In July 2007, the Company announced the acquisition of Kerr-McGee Tower from Anadarko Petroleum Corporation and subsequent sale of tower to SandRidge Energy, Inc.
XTO Energy (XTO) 54.03
XTO Energy Inc. and its subsidiaries are engaged in the acquisition, development, exploitation and exploration of producing oil and gas properties, and in the production, processing, marketing and transportation of oil and natural gas. Its estimated proved reserves at December 31, 2006 were 6.94 Trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of natural gas, 53 million Barrels (Bbls) of natural gas liquids and 214.4 million Bbls of oil. During the year ended December 31, 2006, its average daily production was 1.186 Bcf of gas, 11,854 Bbls of natural gas liquids and 45,041 Bbls of oil. As of December 31, 2006, the Company owned interests in 20,743 gross (10,812.3 net) producing wells. In February 2006, the Company acquired proved and un-proved properties in East Texas and Mississippi from Total E&P USA, Inc. In June 2006, the Company acquired Peak Energy Resources, Inc., which operated gas-producing properties and owned un-proved properties in the Barnett Shale in the Fort Worth Basin
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: Cowgold]
#7827447 - 01/03/08 01:19 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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energy companies, aint no where to go but up from here buddy
good picks
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: geokills]
#7827450 - 01/03/08 01:20 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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geokills said: Do your own DD
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: Cowgold]
#7827460 - 01/03/08 01:23 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I am wary of all this push for gold. sure everyone needs 5% in their portfolio, but even the lamest person knows that you buy low sell high. gold did this 20+ years ago, and people started gobbling up gold, then it burst and people are still holding onto their gold waiting to break even. everything works on a sine wave. this year gold will probably plummet and then that is the right time to buy. fuck this 850 an oz shit.
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: YawningAnus]
#7827465 - 01/03/08 01:24 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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YawningAnus said: buy low sell high.
I've always thought that Buy High, Sell Low would be a great name for something.
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7827486 - 01/03/08 01:30 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I've never done that.
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: Cowgold]
#7827491 - 01/03/08 01:32 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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A comedy movie about stock market hijinx.
-------------------- The Drug Policy Alliance Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies
"The psychedelic experience - it has a tremendous force to revivify the spirit, particularly because it is not an ideology. It is not something someone 'figured out.' It is an EXPERIENCE. And this is important to bear in mind." - McKenna.
"We're not mad, we're just doing what we want. You rigid thinkers can't recognize the healthy sanity of that." - Harlan Ellison, "Crackpots"
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7827496 - 01/03/08 01:33 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Would it be irony if it was a bust?
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: Cowgold]
#7827499 - 01/03/08 01:33 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Dude, it could be a drug related comedy about two stoners that get involved in the stock market. Get it? Buy High, Sell Low!
-------------------- The Drug Policy Alliance Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies
"The psychedelic experience - it has a tremendous force to revivify the spirit, particularly because it is not an ideology. It is not something someone 'figured out.' It is an EXPERIENCE. And this is important to bear in mind." - McKenna.
"We're not mad, we're just doing what we want. You rigid thinkers can't recognize the healthy sanity of that." - Harlan Ellison, "Crackpots"
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7827506 - 01/03/08 01:36 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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Get Dave Chapelle on the phone, STAT.
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: Cowgold]
#7827514 - 01/03/08 01:37 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I was a Chesapeake (CHK) holder a couple of years ago when it was trading around $34 / share (and when I was very new to investing). It was hoped that natural gas prices would be on the rise, but at that specific moment in time I was stuck with a flat-liner for a few months. New to investing and lacking the disciplines I've developed over time, I cut that one off and in all honestly, believe it was the right decision at the time.
Given the current environment, I agree that natural gas stocks are coming into greater favor, and your thesis about investing in domestic energy appears to be a sound one. XTO is a stock I have watched for quite a while, it has been growing its natural gas production and is only partially hedged, meaning that it will benefit by a large margin compared to its competitors, should natural gas prices remain strong and increase. The reason I haven't bought any myself, is that I already hold a full investment in the oil/energy sector by way of Transocean (RIG).
Personally, I feel that Transocean is best situated to benefit from higher oil prices and here's why. Oil is becoming harder and harder to find, its use in today's world seems to have no end in sight, and this is of course resulting in rapid price increases for the commodity. Now that oil is so much more profitable for the companies which produce it, they can re-invest that money to seek out harder-to-find resources, particularly in the deepwater offshore regions. This is where Transocean comes in. It is the largest deepwater driller, and as rigs are not easy nor quick to be built, it will hold its strong position in the deepwater markets for quite some time. As oil prices go up and more companies need to tap deeper wells in order to secure solid production, the day-rates (rental rates) for its rigs increase as well. The icing on the cake is that Transocean just merged last year with Global SantaFe, one of its largest competitors. This has the combined company well poised to take advantage of continuing higher oil prices. They also have great visibility, with a backlog (secured contracts) that are booked for many years out.
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: geokills]
#7827519 - 01/03/08 01:38 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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But what about my movie idea? Can we stay on-topic here?
-------------------- The Drug Policy Alliance Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies
"The psychedelic experience - it has a tremendous force to revivify the spirit, particularly because it is not an ideology. It is not something someone 'figured out.' It is an EXPERIENCE. And this is important to bear in mind." - McKenna.
"We're not mad, we're just doing what we want. You rigid thinkers can't recognize the healthy sanity of that." - Harlan Ellison, "Crackpots"
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: YawningAnus]
#7827524 - 01/03/08 01:40 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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YawningAnus said:
I am wary of all this push for gold.
I don't see anyone pushing gold in this thread... though I do agree, that you should have at least part of your assets invested in gold, a gold ETF, or a gold mining company as a hedge against a weakening dollar. It may not make you rich, but it is a form of insurance in the event of the worst case scenario. Do you stop paying your car insurance just because you haven't had an accident in years and therefore your insurance investment hasn't paid off? Probably not. You want it to be there when the shit hits the fan!
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Re: Stock Picks for January 3rd, 2008 - STJ, SGP, CVS [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7827526 - 01/03/08 01:40 PM (10 months, 26 days ago) |
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I refuse to invest in your movie making conspiracies!
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┼ ··∙ long live the shroomery ∙·· ┼
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Cowgold
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