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synergistic said:
How much lc/spores should you use with this? How many quarts are in each bag approximately? Do you have any pictures of the bags fruiting? Thanks.

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We supply the single bag kits with a 3cc culture, and the four bag kits with a 10cc culture. So anywhere from 2cc to 3cc per bag should be enough to get things going. You inject culture onto the pocket of rye, and allow it to colonize a bit before mixing it with the rest of the manure substrate.

Just like with any bulk or spawn substrate, you can crumble it into a tray once it is colonized and apply a casing. Or you could just cut the excess tog bag material off, say 1-2 inches above the top of the substrate. Then directly apply the casing, using the remaining bottom of the bag as a built in tray.

Here are some great pics from CC of oysters on the Signature Substrate:

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themycologist said:
fruiting can be done right in the bag without cutting it or casing or anything, right?

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themycologist said:
fruiting can be done right in the bag without cutting it or casing or anything, right?

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Workman said:
I had the same concern actually. I was told that the grain is actually in a deep pocket in the center and not just a thin layer scattered on the surface.

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oysterguy63 said:
That is what the rye berries are there for. You inject the rye berries with spores or LC, wait for them to colonize, then you mix them in with the rest of the bag. As you know.....you must spawn to the poo mix...you can't do LC or spores directly to it with any level of success. I have read rarely (very) where someone on the Shroomery has claimed they have done it....so I would stick to the status quo.

Actually this is a pretty smart move on Sporeworks part. It also makes it both more convenient and more sterile by the entire process taking place within the spawn bag. When all in the bag is colonized...you can either use the bag to fruit or you can pull it out and case it. The risk of contamination is much lower once mycellium has colonized the entire thing....so casing it holds less risk IMHO.

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oysterguy63 said:
As you know.....you must spawn to the poo mix...you can't do LC or spores directly to it with any level of success. I have read rarely (very) where someone on the Shroomery has claimed they have done it....so I would stick to the status quo.

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Actually, the great thing about the manure based substrate by CC is that you CAN used LC or spores directly on it. That's what it was made for. However, without the rye pocket, it required practically an entire 10ml spore syringe. With the rye pocket, the amount of spores needed is cut to 2-3ml - that's the beauty part.

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oysterguy63 said:
As you know.....you must spawn to the poo mix...you can't do LC or spores directly to it with any level of success. I have read rarely (very) where someone on the Shroomery has claimed they have done it....so I would stick to the status quo.

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Actually, the great thing about the manure based substrate by CC is that you CAN used LC or spores directly on it. That's what it was made for. However, without the rye pocket, it required practically an entire 10ml spore syringe. With the rye pocket, the amount of spores needed is cut to 2-3ml - that's the beauty part.

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I have NEVER had any luck with it, so I guess I will just speak for myself.....and I used about 20 ml of LC to five pounds of past H Poo the last time I tried it. From my own experience......not good. I haven't read too many success stories on the message boards either...but I am not an old hand at this either...so I stand corrected. Did not mean to misiform if I did so.

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Jeremy_Davis said:
Pretty wild to see oysters fruiting from manure based substrates. Amazing really.

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