Quote:

---

ApeBaboon said:
so i inoculate one bag with 2cc's of spore solution and set aside in a closet in a 80-85 degree temp. then wait until its about 20% colonized with myc and mix up the bag?

once it starts to pin do i still leave the bag in a 80-85 temp giving the bag 12/12 light?

how many flushes is this bag good for?

---

Quote:

---

monstermitch said:

Quote:

---

ApeBaboon said:
so i inoculate one bag with 2cc's of spore solution and set aside in a closet in a 80-85 degree temp. then wait until its about 20% colonized with myc and mix up the bag?

once it starts to pin do i still leave the bag in a 80-85 temp giving the bag 12/12 light?

how many flushes is this bag good for?

---

that will bring you contamination with the quickness.
Substrate bags are NEVER, EVER to be incubated.
not under any circumstances. in fact, you should take steps to
keep them cool while colonizing, like setting them on a wire shelf
and not letting the room they're in go above 75 degrees.

best bet is a room that's about 70 degrees and the bags sitting
on wire shelving so air can circulate around them.

you can use light while colonizing too, light has zero effect on
colonization and in no way will cause early pinning, that's a myth.

the easier you make it, the better your chances for success.

---

Quote:

---

ApeBaboon said:
then wait until its about 20% colonized with myc and mix up the bag?

---

Quote:

---

monstermitch said:
for one, it's not a spawn bag.
there's a bulk substrate in the bag, not spawn.

for two, anyone who's cared to notice the temps of these bags
while colonizing will tell you they will run surface temps easily
15 degrees above the ambient air temp, so you can guess what
the inner core temps would be.

having inner core temps exceed 86 is in no way beneficial.
it dramatically slows mycelial growth and dramatically increases the
chances for bacterial bloom, fermentation and other problems.

so knowing that the inner core temps can very easily be at least
15 degrees higher than ambient air temps...
I'm sure you're smart enough to see where this is going.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the bag being properly made.
Here, read the post below and others on the topic...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7576880#7576880



I've colonized thousands of these bags under every circumstance you
could reasonably do so in. no exaggeration at all. I think I understand
a bit about how they work....

---

Quote:

---

bmiles said:

Quote:

---

ApeBaboon said:
then wait until its about 20% colonized with myc and mix up the bag?

---

my bag is about 25% colonized, i read somewhere to let the rye berries completely colonize, and then mix. is this right?

---