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 Morelman
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 Matching Mycelium to Substrate 
#7685079 - 11/27/07 08:03 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yesterday I was struck with an epiphany and wanted to field the concept with everyone.
There are three major types of mycelium. Rhizomorphic, Linear and Cottony. There are also three major types of fungal decomposer. Primary, secondary and tertiary.
So what I'm suggesting is this;
Primary = Rhizomorphic --> Woodchips/Logs
Secondary = Linear --> Horsepoo/Sawdust/Straw
Tertiary = Cottony --> Composted Materials/Cowpoo
Someone would be inclined to say that Oyster and Shiitake are not rhizomorphic but they fruit from logs in nature. Yes, that's true to an extent. They will colonize logs, but very slowly.
So by matching the mycelium type with the substrate you should get better flushes. When doing multispore you are automatically favoring the strains with the best mycelium suited for the substrate.
So when doing isolates. I believe that you should match the isolates mycelium type to the substrate.
Danger: Metaphors Ahead
IMO, spawning Rhizomorphic Mycelium to Horsepoo is like feeding a 350lb person a chiclet for dinner. On the same note, spawning Linear or Cottony Mycelium to woodchips is like feeding a baby half a cow.
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Re: Matching Mycelium to Substrate [Re: Morelman]
#7685859 - 11/27/07 11:43 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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an epiphany indeed! "Discoveries" feel great don't they. You should write it up in depth and submit it as a journal. Is this possible?
Would what you are saying be relevant to the mycological community? I wouldn't know. But it is interesting none the less.
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Re: Matching Mycelium to Substrate [Re: akb112211]
#7686528 - 11/27/07 02:44 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Isolates are genetic, not substrate related. Mycelium will often turn from cottony to rhizomorphic and back again depending on substrate, moisture, temperature and perhaps other variables as well. One needs to provide the type of food the particular species he wishes to grow requires.
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Morelman
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Re: Matching Mycelium to Substrate [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7688876 - 11/27/07 11:00 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Isolates are indeed genetic but.... The mycelial characteristics of those isolates are also embedded in their genetic code. If not, then why would anyone, including Paul Stamets, classify the mycelial characteristics of each mushroom. If it's a variable depending on substrate/conditions then why not leave that detail out altogether.
Mycelium mutates due to replicant fading, aka senescence. Which is accelerated and brought on by expending too much energy trying to digest the wrong substrate for the mycelium type.
Depending on substrate, the mutated/senesced mycelium either thrives or dies. Survival of the fittest, sink or swim and all that happy horse shit. Each mycelium type can mutate to one of the other two. Only the one best suited for the substrate will survive.
All this comes at a price though. In the process of mutating. Other genetic characteristics were changed as well. Not just the mycelial type. Name a defining characteristic of any species and it could be lost in the random re-shuffling of the genetic code.
I've never seen or heard of an agaricus or coprinus with rhizomorphic mycelium. I would like to succeed in being the first to isolate such while keeping the rest of the genetics in place of course.
Use the correct substrate for the mycelium type!!!
Edited by Morelman (11/27/07 11:35 PM)
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