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 Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles  [Re: Dan4th]
#7560310 - 10/25/07 08:52 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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wow this is awesome the FDA approved this study. 12 people is a start...hopefully they will expand it to more people if they find it to be effective against cancer.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: Dan4th]
#7561074 - 10/26/07 12:18 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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The team was exceptionally mindful of safety protocols from the start for that very reason. To give you an example, we require a recent MRI of the brain to rule out brain or CNS metastases. We take blood pressure and temperature measurements every hour during the treatment sessions, too. You might also be interested to learn that we're not seeing the typical nausea and GI effects that can result from mushroom ingestion. Participants have reported gentle physical experiences so far with the pure psilocybin. As for the potential for a "freak out" during or following treatment, we are unlikely to see that outcome with the mild/moderate dose we're providing -- even among those who have no prior psychedelic experiences. For more info on the inclusion/exclusion criteria, you can check here: www.canceranxietystudy.org. Believe me, we're the last ones who would want anything to go wrong. With only one more participant to go and no adverse events related to treatment to report, we in good shape at this point. Rest assured, we take risk mitigation seriously.
awesome. I hope I didnt come off as being prickish. i was just interested in the entire process.
so, maybe this will be my last question: Do you think the results you have gotten so far will allow for your team to do further studies in the realm of psilocybin? maybe a larger test group?
and are you guys at all interested in upping the dose? or is the study mainly focusing on small doses?
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Dan4th
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: SneezingPenis]
#7567557 - 10/27/07 08:24 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi Kush,
It's important to keep in mind that we are treating existential anxiety related to advanced illness. This is a psychiatric study. We are not treating cancer. I have to be exceptionally clear with all participants that we are not attempting to treat cancer with psilocybin. Some people have experienced an improvement in their perceptions of pain, and one participant regained some significant functioning shortly after a treatment session that had been lost due to extensive surgery and radiation. However, we make no claims about treating physical illness. That being said, many participants are honest about their desires to engage mind-body healing mechanisms, but they know they are participating in an experimental treatment for anxiety and not cancer. (I think I've repeated that point enough!)
Thanks for the encouraging comment!
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: Dan4th]
#7567571 - 10/27/07 08:29 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I appreciate your interest, and a healthy challenge now and then simply helps us refine our approach.
As for your questions, we are currently in the planning stages for the next protocol with a larger group at a higher dose. As I mentioned earlier, we are considering adding the option of booster sessions, too.
We're firm believers that we'll get farther faster taking well considered baby steps. However, the success of the Hopkins trial has amounted to a big leap forward for us too. They saw good results in healthy volunteers at higher doses.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: Dan4th]
#7571315 - 10/29/07 12:30 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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If the gov't wanted to cure cancer they would have. They wont for the simple fact they will lose billions of dollars a year and million will be without jobs.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: legallyhomeless]
#7571378 - 10/29/07 12:45 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you really believe that?
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: opensaysme]
#7574262 - 10/29/07 09:58 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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The world's a lot more corrupt than most people realize. When you learn about the crap the U.S. government has done stuff like that doesn't seem to far fetched. It's very complicated.
This study will almost certainly bring positive results, but with the insane corruption I'm not sure it'll do much good.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: Thor]
#7576156 - 10/30/07 01:06 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive heard of Psilocybin mushrooms being used to help cluster headaches.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
#7590163 - 11/03/07 05:38 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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So please, grow up, as I feel it is inappropriate to joke about this horrible disease...
Than maybe you should change your sig so that it doesn't poke fun at the retarded you fucking hypocrite.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: jpuff]
#7590806 - 11/03/07 01:55 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont think that the government is keeping the cure for cancer a secret. I dont trust the government at all, but I really doubt that they are keeping this a secret. Even if they were, what about the rest of the countries in the world, some with even far better medical technology. Do you think that their governments are also as insane as ours?
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: Icelander]
#7593006 - 11/04/07 01:12 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with you in general about humour potentially relieving pain and anxiety. Yet ThePyschonaut52 percieved the comments as flippent, or disrespectful in some way, I guess. I know that some humour can be deliberately cruel (getting pleasure from inflicting pain). I guess I'm thinking that he has the right to vent against his perceived disrespectful behaviour just as much as you have the right to remind that ideally nothing is to horrible to joke about. Maybe it is true that timing is everything.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: newlife]
#7597319 - 11/05/07 04:41 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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newlife said:
Do you think that their governments are also as insane as ours?
All governments are as insane as each other - money gets involved and the human condition of greed takes hold of the decisions - it seems inevitable.
Though with that, if a government did actually have a cure for cancer just think of the potential money that could be made from it - they would release it from a profiteering point of view surely...
To the scientists doing this study - thanks a million, this is fantastic news and hopefully one small step starting many more in the right direction.... 
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: Dan4th]
#7617700 - 11/10/07 08:17 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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*Yawn*
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: 0xYg3n]
#7620779 - 11/11/07 02:27 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im Writing about this topic (Psychedelic therapy / cancer) as a college research paper. Love the topic, its so interesting how much pain has to do with the mind. And also how humbling the experience is, so much so that it helps people accept their death.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: freezepooter]
#7624422 - 11/12/07 04:48 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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We're talking about medical corporations, not governments. These corporations are global, so yes, there could be the possibility of a cure being withheld without anyone knowing because it would not generate as much profit as treatments. Remember, a corporations first responsibility is to make money for its owners and shareholders. However, saying something like that is just pure speculation because there's no way to know for sure.
Back on track, my mother has non-hodgkin's lymphoma. She is very upset about it. Are you still looking for volunteers, I would like her to try this; I know how much psilocybin can help with psychological problems.
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: u4ea]
#7645510 - 11/16/07 09:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello u4ea - I am sorry to learn of your mother's illness. We have a spot for one more volunteer. You can learn more about the inclusion/exclusion criteria by visting our Web site at: www.canceranxietystudy.org . If you think your mother would be interested in starting the screening process, you can contact our office using the info on the Web site. Bright Blessings, A
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Re: Clinical Trial with Psilocybin in Los Angeles [Re: freezepooter]
#7646717 - 11/17/07 07:24 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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freezepooter said:
Im Writing about this topic (Psychedelic therapy / cancer) as a college research paper. Love the topic, its so interesting how much pain has to do with the mind. And also how humbling the experience is, so much so that it helps people accept their death.
I suppose at that point anything would help, but hey I love my mushrooms too. 
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