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 Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: dr_gonz]
#8797606 - 08/19/08 06:06 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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no u cut the graft off once its ready and root it.
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: just me]
#8797617 - 08/19/08 06:09 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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shit, i just got lost.
so once the graft has "taken", you cut it off the pereskiopsis? how far up do you cut?
im sorry for being a newb.
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: dr_gonz]
#8798382 - 08/19/08 08:59 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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you don't have to cut it off for a few years after grafting. the core after time gets woody at the graft and also the graft will get too big for the Perskiopsis rootsystem to feed well. the growth will slow down. I am sending you a Terscheckii graft I did a few years ago thats still putting on new growth though and doesn't need to be seperated yet. If the Pereskiopsis stem shrivels up like a raisin though it is time. Sometimes that happens because the Pereskiopsis loses it's leaves. I think the Terscheckii is keeping the Pereskiopsis alive though. When the grafts are to small for photosynthesis and the Pereskiopsis has no leaves for photosynthesis the Pereskiopsis will die.
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8799564 - 08/20/08 03:51 AM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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damn, i need one to study too 
maybe i should get about a dozen pere, now that i have thousands of spachianus seeds, i can practice my grafting on them, and once i get it down i can throw some lophs on there
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: just me]
#8799603 - 08/20/08 04:13 AM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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just me said:
damn, i need one to study too
maybe i should get about a dozen pere, now that i have thousands of spachianus seeds, i can practice my grafting on them, and once i get it down i can throw some lophs on there
it doesn't require much practice really, but yeah it is a good idea to at least get familiar with the process on some seedlings that you have alot of and are not so rare...
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: uarewotueat]
#8847801 - 08/29/08 02:24 PM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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cpw1971, haven't seen you monster cacti in a wile, will you post a new pic of your franken cactus?
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: sniffy]
#8848231 - 08/29/08 04:12 PM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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yeah The Pereskiopsis that were grafted into it pretty much mostly died so I cut them all off of it yesterday.
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: cpw1971]
#8854220 - 08/30/08 10:39 PM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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So just for clarification . .
One grafts a slow growing cacti to a pereskiopsis, and after a few years the cacti must be separated from the peres because it can no longer support the cacti?
If this is the case, would it be possible to use the octavius method to supplement a slow growing cacti's roots, without ever having to detach the pereskiopsis?
Or would the peres still get too much taken from it to remain attached?
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Re: Ookla's Ghetto Grafting guide..... [Re: kybish]
#8855568 - 08/31/08 10:11 AM (2 months, 20 days ago) |
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One grafts a slow growing cacti to a pereskiopsis, and after a few years the cacti must be separated from the peres because it can no longer support the cacti?
something like that...
pereskiopsis is not a great long term stock, for 2 or 3 years it is fine, but after that when it has lost all of its leaves it will eventually die or become too weak to support the scion...
it is great for seedling grafts as it gives such explosive growth to start with, after a while it loses its vigor somewhat and you are better off regrafting to a columnar stock or simply cut the scion off and allow it to root and grow on its own.
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