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RR style mono-tub question
    #7361563 - 09/02/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Hey, I was considering attempting a mono-tub, initially I was going to follow monstermitch's tek almost exactly, but I read that Rogerrabbit recommends drilling smaller holes with no micropore tape or polyfil, just as instructed for his fruiting chambers in his DVD. Here is a quote I was wondering about
"The tub isn't to protect against contaminants because they can easily get in around the gaps in the lid, unless that is also taped up. The polyfill seems to slow down air exchange enough to allow humidity to build while still allowing some gas exchange. I'd suggest opening and fanning often after full colonization."
Has anyone tried this, does the substrate dry out easily with the fanning and the open holes? Also how do you let the substrate colonize and not pin early with the light and fae getting in from the open holes? Thanks

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: synergistic]
    #7361590 - 09/02/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Roger has never liked the idea of polyfill. Here is what I'd suggest to you if you try this. Use something to keep the holes covered while the substrate is colonizing. Like a tape or something. Maybe micro pore. Once your substrate is fully colonized it will be extremely resistant to contamination. At that point you can take the tape off and let it breathe with out worry of contamination.

This is how I've seen most people do this method with monotubs. Also, I don't think you would need to make the tiny holes the way RR does his. You could just construct the tub as normal and it will work fine that way.

I plan on doing it just like this my self eventually, once I'm caught up on all my projects. :smile:


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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7361608 - 09/02/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the quick response, but when you say construct the tub as normal, is that with no holes, with about 4 2 inch diameter holes just minus the polyfil? With your grow do you intent to fan as rr says in the quote or just wait till harvest? Thanks.

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: synergistic]
    #7361684 - 09/02/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Also RR had nothing to do with the mono tub that was Ohmatic. RR really hasn't came up with anything inventive at all. He has just made a video on how to grow cakes, in order to make money off of what is already posted on these boards. Woop de doo.


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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #7361706 - 09/02/07 01:06 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

You wouldn't want any holes below the substrate level in a monotub or they'd stimulate pinning down there. During colonization, it's important to have a high CO2 level, so whatever holes you use above substrate level should be covered up until full colonization. After that, use whatever method you decide to ensure lots of air exchange while maintaining high humidity levels. Good luck.
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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: synergistic]
    #7361709 - 09/02/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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synergistic said:
Hey, I was considering attempting a mono-tub, initially I was going to follow monstermitch's tek almost exactly, but I read that Rogerrabbit recommends drilling smaller holes with no micropore tape or polyfil, just as instructed for his fruiting chambers in his DVD. Here is a quote I was wondering about
"The tub isn't to protect against contaminants because they can easily get in around the gaps in the lid, unless that is also taped up. The polyfill seems to slow down air exchange enough to allow humidity to build while still allowing some gas exchange. I'd suggest opening and fanning often after full colonization."
Has anyone tried this, does the substrate dry out easily with the fanning and the open holes? Also how do you let the substrate colonize and not pin early with the light and fae getting in from the open holes? Thanks




monotubs are not RR's design, and is NOT his intellectual property, that is Ohmatic's Intellectual property.

Polyfil is godsend for those holes.
I believe RR doesn't understand, that if you use very little, and not twist a big huge amount, that air will still flow just as well as without it, it just takes a little, and it shouldn't be bound "tight". Polyfil protects against flies, gnats, cat hair, sneezes LOL, any critter u dont want in there, as far as filtering out particulates, it helpls, but is not perfect. You could use .003 micron tyvek if u want to filter particulates, but i question weather or not that will restrict air flow... probably will.

polyfil isn't for raisning humidity, it's for FAE, if it's causing a rise in humidity, you've bound too much up, and stuffed the holes too full.

Monotubs are designed by ohmatic to be a "bulk neglect tek" meaning,
opening and fanning your monotub IS NOT needed... and unecessary, and a very definite vector for contamination, so RR has given false information on that part.

when i colonize my monotubs, and i've done many, i wrap them in a towel, and put in a closet, they stay dark, and full of co2, which is good for colonization, some put wax paper over the top of the substrate, this works well also.

If you fan your monotub, yes it will dry out, the design is to force the tub to "distill" and recycle it's humidity, it drips back down into the base of the tub, and rehydrates the poo/bulk substrate.

I believe, that his shotgun chamber for pftek style cakes may be confusing you with a true monotub. If you have monotub questions, PM myself or Ohmatic, im sure he'll help, im always here to help, no cost involved. I look forward to making a free dvd for bulk neglect teks such as Ohmatic's monotubs, and Hydr0420's simple invitro poo bags.

this is a future project, and not really going to be a great quality film, but i can assure you, i will NOT allow powerpoint to be used when the video is edited.

peace.

Edited by jeetered (09/02/07 01:10 PM)

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7361711 - 09/02/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Learn to use Quick Reply please. You would think being a mod and all you would know.:rolleyes:


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: jeetered]
    #7361714 - 09/02/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

:congrats:


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #7361723 - 09/02/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

you would think royalties were due to professor fanaticus.

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: jeetered]
    #7361741 - 09/02/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

And mono-tub designs to Ohmatic.


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #7361754 - 09/02/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I, as do most members, simply type into the box at the bottom of the page. By default, it makes a 'reply to' the last poster. Get over yourself if you can't figure it out.

I have never made a monotub and never claimed such. Where you two come up with this stuff, I'll never know. By the way, the pf tek part of the video was an afterthought. That's why that 40 minute segment was uploaded to youtube so people can have it in the low resolution version for free. It's 40 minutes out of a 4 hour video. Editing was done with Adobe CS2.
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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: jeetered]
    #7361763 - 09/02/07 01:26 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

heyjeetered or pinkfloydms-

do either of you guys have a link to monstermitch's monotub tek, or does ohmatic have one? id like to giv a monotub a shot... thankx guys..

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: blood4blood]
    #7361775 - 09/02/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5276282 Ohms Mono-tub.



And as far as RR, I think your the one who needs to get over yourself and sttart being a real mod instead of when ppl ask for advice you say"watch the vids". You Don't even belong in this community if all your here to do is make money.:smirk:


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: blood4blood]
    #7361804 - 09/02/07 01:37 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Monster Mitch
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Hey guys, Not that I don't agree that RR has been advertising his DVD a little too often lately, but Don't discredited the mans work. He put a lot of time, effort and money into making that dvd. I think its a great asset to anyone wanting to learn how to grow. I do agree that every answer of his shouldn't be about his dvd though. That should be kept in the sponsors forum.

Either way RR is a great asset to this community and we are lucky to have him here. Everyone just needs to settle down, or move it OTD.


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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #7361812 - 09/02/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5276282 Ohms Mono-tub.



And as far as RR, I think your the one who needs to get over yourself and sttart being a real mod instead of when ppl ask for advice you say"watch the vids". You Don't even belong in this community if all your here to do is make money.:smirk:



He's been part of this community for 4+ years now...i don't think he's just here to make a couple dollars on a dvd :wink:


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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7361816 - 09/02/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey guys, Not that I don't agree that RR has been advertising his DVD a little too often lately, I do agree that every answer of his shouldn't be about his dvd though. That should be kept in the sponsors forum.






Thats all we are trying to say.


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #7361819 - 09/02/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Totally agreed


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    #7361826 - 09/02/07 01:44 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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I do agree that every answer of his shouldn't be about his dvd though. That should be kept in the sponsors forum.




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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #7361832 - 09/02/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

thanks man, got a q though maybe 2...

-would you do layers with your sub and spawn in the monotub or would you just mix the 2 together? and what is a good depth?

-is lighting not an issue with a monotub? you just keep it in complete darkness the whole time?

- and applying a casing layer would that be the same as doing a regular bulk grow where you let the sub completly colonize then apply a casing layer? in saying that

- is there anything special you should do after you apply the casing layer? i know with bulk grows after u apply the casing layer you "introduce to fruiting conditions" or are mono's jus that easy

i appreciate the help....

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Re: RR style mono-tub question [Re: enesi]
    #7361838 - 09/02/07 01:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

It's not just about that. It;s about him mentioning his dvds all the time. I'm glad he made a dvd and is making money, good for him but don't flood every other post with it.


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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