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#7324647 - 08/23/07 09:03 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi all. Just thought I'd share these. Phone books were sterilized in boiling water and then inoculated. The first two pictures are the same phone book, showing four days of growth from primordia to nearly mature fruits. The rest are just some random phone book pictures. I have many more. The project in the open spawn bag is newspapers, spawned with hericium colonized rye. This has got to be one of the easiest and cheapest ways to grow hericium.
For those who are worried, the printing inks in the books are soybean based and not only non-toxic, but a source of nutrient supplementation. Enjoy.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7324691 - 08/23/07 09:30 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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amazing,good job!
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7324879 - 08/23/07 11:14 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol cool! Do they make all ink for newspaper and phone books out of soy?
I wonder if newspaper kitty litter would work? Would it work for cubes too?
Hericium is my favorite to grow.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: John Smith]
#7324887 - 08/23/07 11:16 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So how would you go about inoculating a phone book with spawn? This looks like a really good way to save money. Would this work for maitake (G. frondosa) as well?
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7327398 - 08/23/07 10:30 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow, good growing.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: falcon]
#7330642 - 08/24/07 07:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Will this be on the next DVD? do you know when it will be out?
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: thallus]
#7331667 - 08/25/07 02:36 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was just wondering if you could grow on books. been running through my mind for a while. Nice pics.
ps. Hericium looks like cauliflour or giant popcorn XD
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: Aberael]
#7332122 - 08/25/07 08:24 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hello Roger,
really good pics. I like the first with the primordia, because never seen H.erinaceus primordia.
Just a question about the H.erinaceus mycelium: is the mycelium on MEA almost invisible?? Or is my strain senescencing??
thanks,
F.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: thallus]
#7332167 - 08/25/07 09:15 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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thallus said:
Will this be on the next DVD? do you know when it will be out?
Yes, this and several other projects are being done for my 'Recycling with Mushrooms' DVD. Since 'Let's Grow Mushrooms!' took nearly two years longer than I thought it would to produce, I hate to speculate on when this one will be out. Hopefully, I can get it out by next spring. I'll be growing several species on readily available substrates that can be obtained free by making neighborhood collections or going to the local recycling center and asking. That's how we got the phone books. Mrs Rabbit called our local recycler and they gave her at least 50 phone books free of charge.
These were inoculated with colonized rye berries. Using scissors, we cut out small squares in the center of the book, and then filled them with the rye. Colonization took nearly a month because the books are much denser than sawdust/woodchips. Coming along nicely in colonization now are shiitake, enoki, p nameko, hypsizygus ulmarium, oyster and three species of ganoderma.
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Quote:
Corporal Kielbasa said:
I wonder if newspaper kitty litter would work? Would it work for cubes too?
Hericium is my favorite to grow.
Cubes on paper? How could that ever work? 
RR
Here's Ganoderma tsugae fruiting from a phone book.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7332183 - 08/25/07 09:25 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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But i wonder about the shredded paper used for litter, supplemented at spawning and cased. I wonder if it would yield well.
ha blasphemy!
Roger you got a lot of time on your hands!
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7342074 - 08/27/07 10:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Does the phonebook need to be sterile? Or can it be pasturized like other substrates? Then wrap it up to keep C02 levels up?
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7342467 - 08/28/07 12:19 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mua ha ha haaaa. Love these.
Looks like I need to get in here more often, it's been too long.
Now I'm hungry.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: Ganzig]
#7342679 - 08/28/07 01:36 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also, I am wondering... Will the fruits be lacking any of the beneficial chemicals? Would psilocybes lack potency?
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: Ganzig]
#7343438 - 08/28/07 08:21 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ganzig said:
Does the phonebook need to be sterile? Or can it be pasturized like other substrates? Then wrap it up to keep C02 levels up?
I went with sterilization, but pasteurization might just work because I didn't supplement with any cereal brans at spawning. I've boiled them in water, and also placed into large filter patch bags and pressure cooked. Both methods work fine.
One full quart of colonized rye berries were used to inoculate each book. The rye was placed into the holes that were cut out in the center of the books. After inoculation, the books were placed in the turkey pans and covered tightly with aluminum foil to hold a high CO2 level during colonization, which takes about a month due to the density of the phone books. At full coloinzation plus one week, the foil was removed and fruiting began.
Lion's mane doesn't require a cold shock, so they fruited right away. Shiitake and P nameko do require a cold shock, so they get put outside every night because the temperatures here drop into the 50's at night, even during summer. If you live in a warm climate, you'll want to wait for winter to attempt species that require cold shocking, or use refrigeration. Good luck.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7343846 - 08/28/07 11:15 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm new at this, so I don't know much (yet), but what happens if you don't have high CO2 levels during colonization? does it slow the growth?
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: Aberael]
#7344150 - 08/28/07 12:44 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I believe the high co2 levels keeps the substrate from fruiting prematurely.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: Ganzig]
#7345556 - 08/28/07 07:32 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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The mushroom mycelium produces the CO2. In the native environment within the wood of a tree, the CO2 levels can get very high. When the mycelium reaches the edges, it experiences a drastic drop as it encounters fresh air. This also is when the mycelium is introduced to light, which is another pinning trigger.
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7346161 - 08/28/07 10:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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is this the same with other species too?
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Re: Hericium on old telephone books [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7348025 - 08/29/07 01:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So I tried to boil a couple of phone books. It was kind of a disaster. How do you keep them from falling apart? I can not visualize the process. Right now I am thinking that putting the books in a smaller amount of water to gather the necessary moisture and then pressure cook. The pot that I was putting the books in was very large.
The whole thing was just kind of a mess. Are you using only small phone books?
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