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 truffleupagus
 
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 Only psychologically addictive my ass *DELETED* 
#7297302 - 08/15/07 10:33 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Post deleted by truffleupagus<p>Reason for deletion: I stand corrected. Whatever.
Edited by TDOTupagus (08/15/07 02:48 PM)
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 JT
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: truffleupagus]
#7297312 - 08/15/07 10:38 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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somewhat physically addictive...yes. it'll fuck up your sleep habits for sure.
i don't know about the "feeling like shit" thing though. do you mean like an alcohol hangover? i've never experienced anything like that and i recently quit weed for school again after smoking every day this summer.
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: JT]
#7297320 - 08/15/07 10:41 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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When i always stopped smoking after months of use my only problem would be Sweating heavily at night, and falling asleep general thoughts of wanting it, needing it, etc.......
If you can hold it off for 4-6 days then your sleep habits will get regular again and there will be a clearer clean headed feeling...
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: demon2091tb]
#7297333 - 08/15/07 10:45 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS OF CANNABIS
mild to moderate, non life-threatening withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users. These may last for 1-6 weeks after cessation of use and can include anxiety, anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure), headaches, general unease/discomfort, difficulty sleeping, slight loss of appetite, increased boredom, and a desire to smoke pot. Severity of symptoms is related to frequency of use and individual sensitivity.
source: Erowid
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: truffleupagus]
#7297360 - 08/15/07 10:53 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've noticed this somewhat.
I know some people who are seriously addicted though.
and without smoking they just.. aren't that nice.
Maybe it varies from person to person.
I don't really feel that my body needs it or wants it or anything
and when I don't have any it doesn't bother me much
but i am much more comfortable with it
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7297362 - 08/15/07 10:55 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well when your blood stream is like 1% liquid 99% thc, of course your gunna feel diffrent when it starts to leave
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Mitchnast
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7297388 - 08/15/07 11:05 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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dirtworshipper said:
I've noticed this somewhat.
I know some people who are seriously addicted though.
and without smoking they just.. aren't that nice.
consider maybe they in fact ARENT that nice, and that smoking weed is the only think that enables them to be cordial dispite their growing inner contempt for everyone and evrything. in other words, the unenlightened side of base humanity.
just think about it, some people have shitty moods for good and bad reasons. theres TONS of not so nice people out there that aren't smoking anythng and are unbearable to others.
perhaps your friend uses weed as a vice to cope.
thats psychological addiction.
nobody THINKs its psychological when it happens to them. but it is.
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: truffleupagus]
#7297411 - 08/15/07 11:14 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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truffleupagus said:
I'm starting to also think that there's no such thing as something being psychologically addictive. I just think different drugs have varying degrees of physical addictiveness. If pot's psychologically addictive then that would mean that it's all in my head. If that's the case then the whole "mind over matter" thing could be applied. But I think pot is physically addictive, at least to some extent.
totally psycological. somethings keeping you from sleeping.
TEXTBOOK psychological. pot is used to cope.... voila, psycological addiction. you are using pot to restore normality to a nessisary function of your life (sleep)
not dealing with the CAUSE of insomnia, you have become dependant on the mood-changing effects and fatigue associated with pot.
in time you lose touch with whatever stress causes your insomnia and it becomes conditioned. beleive it or not, thats a type of healing. REAL good way to bury issues tho, that may come up someday, for example, while tripping, or getting really high.
point is, this is totally psychological. just because you toss and turn all night doesnt mean its physical. it just means you probably arent OK with yourself, for whatever reason.
your choices are, keep self-medicating, or deal with your stress issues and work on natural ways of overcomming the loss of cognitive touch with WHY you cant sleep.
try excersize.
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: Mitchnast]
#7297430 - 08/15/07 11:19 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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dood it can be physically addictive and i no this personally
for instance i bring kratom 2 work
kratom is the exact high for me as weed i cant tell the diff
so i had this kratom sitting in the fridge at work
i could drink it anytime i wanted
but i didnt want it nearly as bad as weed
which is the same high!
also i get very minimal effex from smoking weed
i vape only kush out of my valcano
i smoke about an 8th a day and when my friends roll blunts
i take th phattest rips and cant feel shit!
bongs barely work 4 me too
i can only feel anything from vaping the finest herb
its so fucking rediculous
ive been smoking for 5 years and i spend 100% of my pay check on weed
if u do anything enuf times without thinking about it
ull b addicted 4 sure
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: Coaster]
#7297452 - 08/15/07 11:28 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said:
dood it can be physically addictive and i no this personally
for instance i bring kratom 2 work
kratom is the exact high for me as weed i cant tell the diff
so i had this kratom sitting in the fridge at work
i could drink it anytime i wanted
but i didnt want it nearly as bad as weed
which is the same high!
also i get very minimal effex from smoking weed
i vape only kush out of my valcano
i smoke about an 8th a day and when my friends roll blunts
i take th phattest rips and cant feel shit!
bongs barely work 4 me too
i can only feel anything from vaping the finest herb
its so fucking rediculous
ive been smoking for 5 years and i spend 100% of my pay check on weed
if u do anything enuf times without thinking about it
ull b addicted 4 sure
Try not smoking out of the vape for afew days and just rip a bong or bowl. I found that if i was ripping bongs all day if i smoked even the fattest bowl that night it wouldnt do anything, so idk.
Il agree i gotta smoke pot everyday it sucks cause i always thought that whole addiction thing couldnt happen with weed but even when smoking now i experince those withdrawl symptoms, right now im gonna go load the bong and maybe i can get the munchies enough to eat today
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: AJ4U]
#7297491 - 08/15/07 11:38 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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o yea it psychially addictive...I get depression, anxiety, loss of appiaete, insonmia and I just generally feel like shit...
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7297522 - 08/15/07 11:47 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Teotzlcoatl said:
o yea it psychially addictive...I get depression, anxiety, loss of appiaete, insonmia and I just generally feel like shit...
3 symptoms and a 4th blanket malaise ALL akin to psychological issues. ALL happen to be those that pot would fix like a panacea. THINK!
youre medicating a problem. now that youve lost touch with it, youve identified lack of medicine as the problem.
PSYCHOLOGICAL addiction. period.
EASY.
not even a question here.
you arent addicted, you are probably suffering from regular old depression, as you should, its a shitty corrupt world and weve all done things we hate.
pot helps you cope and you go and slander it. :P
im not saying take responsibility. theres lots of bullshit you cant change, but don't go around saying shit like pot is physically addictive and further hamper efforts of the informed. those who KNOW they are self medicating to cope with that which they cannot change.
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: Mitchnast]
#7297548 - 08/15/07 11:58 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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It seems people are confused between the definition of psychologically addicting and physically addicting. What you're describing is still classified as psychologically addicting because the symptoms are rooted in the brain. Physically addicting is different. "Generally feeling like shit" is your mindset and nothing more which may very well be cause by pot but it's not physically addicting. Look up opiate or alcohol withdrawals and you'll get an idea of a physical addiction.
For something to be physically addicting it's actions have to be different. For instance someone who has anxiety and it raises their heart rate. There's no physical reason for their heart rate being raised. It's being caused by the mental condition of anxiety. Get it?
Edited by THEBats (08/15/07 12:16 PM)
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: truffleupagus]
#7297592 - 08/15/07 12:14 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah, when i stopped smoking i couldn't sleep worth shit. but this just shows you not to abuse the herb man. 
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: Limerick]
#7297600 - 08/15/07 12:16 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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i thnk its best not 2 abuse sobriety
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: Coaster]
#7297646 - 08/15/07 12:31 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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The only negative physical side effect I had from pot was my sleep patterns being fucked up when I quit, as well as my eating habits. I think thats comes from dependency on the drug for those two daily processes. I would always smoke before I ate, and before I slept.
I smoke a few times a week now, a big change from every minute of the day. I enjoy it a lot more, and those dependency issues aren't prevalent.
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: THEBats]
#7297658 - 08/15/07 12:36 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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THEBats said:
It seems people are confused between the definition of psychologically addicting and physically addicting.
this has certainly not escaped me 
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: Mitchnast]
#7297667 - 08/15/07 12:40 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Weed is not physically addictive.
Psychological addiction has physical manifestations at times.
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edit: Ask an opiate user what withdrawl feel like, then see if you still think you're having a physical withdrawl. Throwing up yet? How about seizures? Stop spreading misinformation.
Edited by xFrockx (08/15/07 12:43 PM)
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: xFrockx]
#7297708 - 08/15/07 12:59 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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xFrockx said:
Weed is not physically addictive.
Psychological addiction has physical manifestations at times.
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edit: Ask an opiate user what withdrawl feel like, then see if you still think you're having a physical withdrawl. Throwing up yet? How about seizures? Stop spreading misinformation.
Agreed. Like I said it's like someone with anxiety having increased heart rate. It's caused by the mental condition not by a physical reason.
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Re: Only psychologically addictive my ass [Re: truffleupagus]
#7297851 - 08/15/07 02:05 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cannabis is psychologically addictive.
You feel depressed.
Heroin is physically addictive.
Your circulatory system fails and you die!!!!!!
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