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horse poo tek pictorial * 10
    #723303 - 07/04/02 07:17 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Its been awhile since I have posted anything.
So I thought I?d do a start to finnish pictorial of the horse poo tek so you could follow along.

First thing you want is dried out horse poo.
If you can only get fresh horse poo....dry it out yourself!
I dry mine out on a tarp like this....if its too wet.




Then you want to load what ever amount your gonna need into a pillow case.
I usually do 4 pans worth at a time.....fits in the large pot real nice....is why.


Hopefully you will have a large pot like this.


I use a divot in the bottom of the pot....you should get one or a towel for the bottom of the pot.....the pillow case might burn on the bottom of the pot.


Tie off the pillow case.....Put it in a big ass pot.


put purified or mineral water in the pot....tap water is fine if you have good quality tap water.
Get a weight to hold the pillow case down....I use a 25 pound weight lifting weight.
get a candy thermometer.....you?ll need one....most grocery stores have it.


turn the stove on and get it up to 160 to 175 degrees.
make sure by checking the candy thermometer.


this is called pasturizing. ....don?t go over 175 degrees.
do this for 30 to 40 minutes.
after you are done.....let it cool down.
then ring the pillow case out into the pot.
after some good ringing out.....throw the pillow case into the sink to drain.
If you wait just a few hours to continue....make sure that the poo is cool...after it is cool.....proceed.
I leave the pillow case in the sink over night now....seems to work better!
Now that the pillow case is done draining...open it up and check it.
It should be moist.....not runny.....hand squeeze it out if you have to.
you can wash your hands later if you don?t like icky stuff....doesn?t bother me.
Get some large alum Bread pans from the store.....they are like 2 for $1.79.
Fill the bread pan with 3" to 4" of the poo.

**note ***** I have switched to using large black plastic pans.....since the Alum pans don?t hold up well....they get holes in them from a chemical reaction. *****

Alum pan with horse poo.


Now get your BRF jars or other substrate.


Take a PF cake and put it in a food processor...and hit the start button a few times.
break the cake or cakes up into little peices....don?t over do it...or you will get putty.

I?m using 2 cakes per casing....spawn ratio can be 10 to1.....but more substrate = faster colonization.

Mini food processor....works great!


Broken up cake in food processor.


make sure you don?t make putty!!!

Dump the broken up cake or cakes into the horse poo.


*** You will get thousands of inoculation points to the poo by using a food processor....cause the substrate will be well broken up and spread out more ***

If you don't have a food processor.....
break the cake up by hand or use a cheese grater.

but if you break the cakes up by hand...make sure that they are broken up really small.

Then spawn the cake into the poo that is in the bread pan.....mix it up really good.

Mixed up BRF cake in poo!




If you want.....you can spawn with Grain, Birseed....etc.
Doesn?t have to be a BRF cake.

Here is some Rye Grain


I just take a long Ice Tea spoon and sterilize it and spoon the grain out onto the poo.




Then you mix it all up really good!!!

Grain mixed into the poo! I used 1 quart per casing.




Cover up the pan with Alum foil after you have mixed in the substrate with the poo.
Take a fork and punch little holes in several places.....like 9 places in the Alum foil though out the top.

Alum foil over pan with holes punched in from a fork.




Your gonna need an incubator.


Stick your casings in the incubator.


.....and you should see growth in a day or 2.
Now you sit back and wait for the horse poo to fully colonize.

***Update  July 7th, 2002***
Casings are colonizing really nice.

Puerto Rican update 7-7-02.... some nice growth.


Keepers Creeper Casing #1 update 7-7-02....some nice growth.


Keepers Creeper Casing #2 update 7-7-02....some nice growth.


Keepers Creeper Casing #3 update 7-7-02....some nice growth.


Keepers Creeper Casing #4 update 7-7-02....this one seems to be slower.


***Update  July 9th, 2002***
Casings are colonizing really nice.

Puerto Rican update 7-9-02....looking good!


Keepers Creeper Casing #1 update 7-9-02....looking good!


Keepers Creeper Casing #2 update 7-9-02....looking good!


Keepers Creeper Casing #3 update 7-9-02....looking good!


Keepers Creeper Casing #3 update 7-9-02.... Still behind the others!


***Update  July 12th, 2002***
Casings are colonizing really nice.....will put them in the fruiting chamber tomorrow morning.

Puerto Rican update 7-12-02....Ready to fruit!


Keepers Creeper Casing #1 update 7-12-02....Ready to fruit!


Keepers Creeper Casing #2 update 7-12-02....Ready to fruit!


Keepers Creeper Casing #3 update 7-12-02....Ready to fruit!


Keepers Creeper Casing #4 update 7-12-02....Not ready yet....couple more days.


After you get the whole pan of poo colonized you can case it with a Coco Coir casing or any casing layer you want.....or you can let it fruit in the fruiting chamber without a casing layer..... a casing layer can be better!

You would leave the container in the incubator if you put a top casing layer on.
Be careful with PR, Keepers Creeper, South American, F+...aka Floriduh White and any fast colonizing strains....if you leave them in the incubator too long with a casing layer on they will overlay.

I?d like to thank Anno for allowing me to upload this all up in one giant swoop.....for your viewing pleasure.

The BRF cakes are Puerto Rican......that was spawned into the horse poo....2 cakes were used  for the casing.
The Rye Grain is Keepers Creeper.....there are 4 casings of this.....1 quart of Rye grain was used for each casing.

I will be adding pictures here and there to make this a more visual experience.
I?ll add more pictures of the horse poo being pasturized and such.
So look up here as I will be editing and adding to this post.....not down below in another post.

I will also be adding pictures as the horse poo is colonizing....so look up above.

enjoy!
 


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Re: horse poo tek pictorial [Re: Roadkill]
    #723373 - 07/04/02 07:36 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: horse poo tek pictorial [Re: Roadkill]
    #723404 - 07/04/02 07:46 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Hey there,

I was looking at you PR cakes still in the jars and then broken up in the blender. How white should the inside substate get compared to the nice layer of white mycelium on the outside of the PR cakes? Is what I see in the B&D chopper about average? I opened up a PF classic jar yesterday to basically do what you did with your PR cakes and it did not look quite as colonized as yours but I did not know what to expect. It definitely smelled like mushrooms though...definitely. Those look like rye berries in the larger jars....how long did it take for your to get them to the point show in the pictures. I have some MMGG style that I just dropped EQ on and I was curious to the average time frame.

How long do you expect your spawn to fully overtake the gallop poop medium to the point where you would drop a 50/50+ on it? Once you have the casings on the colonized gallop poop, what happens then? Sorry about the questions but your very interesting presentation stirred up my imagination..nice spawn BTW!!

Best regards,

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Re: horse poo tek pictorial [Re: KingBolete]
    #723444 - 07/04/02 07:59 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks boxtop!

Bolete,
The inside of the cake should be solid white......the picture shows pretty much how the inside of a cake should be.

The poo should be completely colonized in 7 days or so....some strains are faster than others.....these 2 strains I have going here are very fast colonizers so we will probably see them colonize faster than 7 days.

Guess we will wait and see!
I'll take pictures late tomorrow night.....at the 48 hour mark.

thanks Bolete!



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Re: horse poo tek pictorial [Re: Roadkill]
    #723476 - 07/04/02 08:08 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

good job!, cant wait to see some fruit


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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: Roadkill]
    #723648 - 07/04/02 08:50 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Very nice Road! Happy 4th, I hope you had a good time.

What year are we in again?

I am still going to try to make it up to see you this summer. I'll try to bring some goodies for you.

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Re: horse poo tek pictorial [Re: Roadkill]
    #723937 - 07/04/02 10:50 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Very cool Road! This should be a great log. Can't wait to see fruits.

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Re: horse poo tek pictorial [Re: We_come_in_peace]
    #724035 - 07/05/02 01:18 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Now THIS is what i call a GROW LOG. i hope everyone is taking notes on how to really illustrate the process of cultivation. great job, homey.

peace,
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Re: horse poo tek pictorial [Re: ]
    #724079 - 07/05/02 02:56 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Great grow log! I'm trying my first casing now....if i can get horse crap maybe ill do this. Seems easy enough for a newb

How does one get horse poo, do i have to follow a horse around all day or can it be baught in a store?

Great work!

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Re: horse poo tek pictorial [Re: ]
    #724082 - 07/05/02 03:00 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

this post is most excellent! i think many people have been waiting for this post. i hope everything turns out well, good luck, and thanks!


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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: Roadkill]
    #724091 - 07/05/02 03:36 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Another excellent log Roadkill...hope the PR's turn out well this time........I'm gonna spawn some jars this weekend using straw....the Poo tech. seems to be a great way to go...Fresh is the Best ! Most of the bagged stuff just doesn't have the kick that fresh does..keep posting these great logs !

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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: Papa_Bear]
    #724166 - 07/05/02 05:12 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Good Poo, smooth hand, nice style = Great Log.

You must have a tough constitution. The smell of poo being wet pasturized gags a Raccoon I know. But, ya have to do -- what -- you have to do to get great results.

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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: SixTango]
    #724283 - 07/05/02 07:29 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Roadkill you crazy mo fo...........good picz, great pictorial!


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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: SixTango]
    #724285 - 07/05/02 07:30 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Good One

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    #724555 - 07/05/02 10:25 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

woah, this is so cool, i gotta try this.

and Roadkill, i have a pot and chopper that are EXACTLY the same as yours, lol.


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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: Roadkill]
    #725579 - 07/05/02 08:46 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

A friend has tried this tek several times spawning pasturized horse poo with colonized rye grain and each time the tray looks like the 15th picture in your post, but a few days after the grains fluff up a bit and don't do anything from there. It seems like the mycelium doesn't want to go from the grain into the dung. Any help with this would be much appriciated.

Thanks for writing this grow log, I really like it and I look forward to the future pics.


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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: Roadkill]
    #726109 - 07/06/02 07:29 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

Cakes in a blender....looks like a trick learned from ol' Pavlovs Dog....?

A very nice pictoral Road! Perhaps this will encourage some new to using bulk substrates!


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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: TrippinRhino]
    #726141 - 07/06/02 08:04 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

In reply to:

Cakes in a blender....looks like a trick learned from ol' Pavlovs Dog....?



Yes....I learned this tek from Pav.....we are friends in real life.
He taught Pleezr, KoOs and I.... this tek at his house!
I asked Pav if I could us his tek to help people learn this wonderful way of growing.....he was all for it.

Pav got the blender idea from Oldtimer.....if I remember correct.

The whole idea of this was to help people see the benifits of using bulk substrates!

Unfortunatly Pav is no longer online..... he doesn't have a internet connection.... and is having some personal problems.

***For Everyone else***
I fell asleep early last night.....and didn't get pictures up of the poo colonizing.
I went and check them today at 11:30 am PST.
They are really colonizing fast!!!!
I will post pictures tonight......I have a BBQ to go to this afternoon.

And thanks for all the kind words!

Josh,
I had a wonderful 4th.....thanks bro!
Hope you had a nice 4th too.
I recieved the syringes this morning.....thank you!

bbl (be back later) this evening to post the updated pictures!


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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: Roadkill]
    #726163 - 07/06/02 08:25 AM (21 years, 8 months ago)

As an amendment to Pav's blender tek...

PF style cakes don't even have to be fully colonized when you throw them in the blender! amazing....

I took 4 80% colonized cakes and blended em, poured into a cake pan and it was a solid block within 5 days... WOOT!

I suspect that there is an elevated risk of contams with this method, however I have seen none as of yet.

Cheers,

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Re: horse poo tek pictorial grow log [Re: Hammerloaf]
    #726913 - 07/06/02 04:41 PM (21 years, 8 months ago)

cool hamer AND especially roadkill I could mame a lot of other cool mfs but that would take all day lol.... im doing a lot of pf cakes right now myself havnt did any cassings yet but that info helps ........ im hopping to do some just like this relly soon im at like 90%on7of 20 jars and all looks really good like the first time i did it lol the 2nd time i had an unfortunate inccedent with the police.... shit im on probation right now lol my mom has like 12 horses so poo should be no prob hehe thanks guys awsome pics ill post mine and my setup somtime soon

humm id like a spell check on this site lol

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