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 Los_Pepes
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 LSD article and why its illegal
#4866762 - 10/29/05 11:11 AM (3 years, 24 days ago) |
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As you can from this (quote) as LSD became increasingly associated with student riots, antiwar demonstrations, and the counterculture, governments intervened to criminalize the drug, restricting and then terminating formal medical research into its potential therapeutic effects(unquote), which means that the idiots and left wing candy ass whiners spoiled it all.
1: Can J Psychiatry. 2005 Jun;50(7):381-8.
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Flashback: psychiatric experimentation with LSD in historical perspective.
Dyck E.
Department of History, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario. dycke@mcmaster.ca
In the popular mind, d-lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) research in psychiatry has long been associated with the CIA-funded experiments conducted by Ewen Cameron at the Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal, Quebec. Despite this reputation, a host of medical researchers in the post World War II era explored LSD for its potential therapeutic value. Some of the most widespread trials in the Western world occurred in Saskatchewan, under the direction of psychiatrists Humphry Osmond (in Weyburn) and Abram Hoffer (in Saskatoon). These medical researchers were first drawn to LSD because of its ability to produce a "model psychosis." Their experiments with the drug that Osmond was to famously describe as a "psychedelic" led them to hypothesize and promote the biochemical nature of schizophrenia. This brief paper examines the early trials in Saskatchewan, drawing on hospital records, interviews with former research subjects, and the private papers of Hoffer and Osmond. It demonstrates that, far from being fringe medical research, these LSD trials represented a fruitful, and indeed encouraging, branch of psychiatric research occurring alongside more famous and successful trials of the first generation of psychopharmacological agents, such as chlropromazine and imipramine. Ultimately, these LSD experiments failed for 2 reasons, one scientific and the other cultural. First, in the 1950s and early 1960s, the scientific parameters of clinical trials shifted to necessitate randomized controlled trials, which the Saskatchewan researchers had failed to construct. Second, as LSD became increasingly associated with student riots, antiwar demonstrations, and the counterculture, governments intervened to criminalize the drug, restricting and then terminating formal medical research into its potential therapeutic effects.
PMID: 16086535 [PubMed - in process]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query...8353&query_hl=2
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the CIA-funded experiments conducted by Ewen Cameron at the Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal, Quebec.
Whoa! I found another skeleton in Canada's closet.
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You're right, if all those hippies hand't angered the fuzz/white collar males, we'd all be dropping acid and making babies. Spread the love. 
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 Re: LSDempire [Re: Spenny]
#5321316 - 02/20/06 07:28 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Support the government that took it away from you?
They're upset at people vocalizing their opinions and using drugs, they crack down...
and it's the people you're against? I mean I do want to understand your reasoning, I'm not trying to flame you or anything.... are you trying to justify the government's actions?
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 Re: LSDempire [Re: leery11]
#5340170 - 02/26/06 04:56 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
leery11 said:
Support the government that took it away from you?
They're upset at people vocalizing their opinions and using drugs, they crack down...
and it's the people you're against? I mean I do want to understand your reasoning, I'm not trying to flame you or anything.... are you trying to justify the government's actions?
I had a sarcasm. 
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Is that really a skeleton? Was it immoral to do research funded by the CIA?
There's an electronics development company in my town that to this day has contracts with the CIA... doing R&D on presumably surveillance equipment and the like... is this wrong or evil?
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Re: LSD article and why its illegal [Re: Los_Pepes]
#5340192 - 02/26/06 05:56 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Los_Pepes said:
As you can from this (quote) as LSD became increasingly associated with student riots, antiwar demonstrations, and the counterculture, governments intervened to criminalize the drug, restricting and then terminating formal medical research into its potential therapeutic effects(unquote), which means that the idiots and left wing candy ass whiners spoiled it all.
LSD didn't cause those things, people who were too stupid to understand youth culture pissed themselves and made it illegal. A bunch of college kids getting angry about something isn't anything new. People between the ages of 16-29 tend to have a lot of pent up hostility and want an outlet to release it on. Just like you posting about "idiots and left wing candy ass whiners". It feels good to think that hippies are a bunch of idiots who deserve all the persecution they get, but they'rereally just the same as you are, only with a different target for their anger.
But this is really the same as the government today deciding that rap music and gang violence were caused by some random thing that youths today are into... like video games, adn banning that.
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Re: LSD article and why its illegal [Re: Phluck]
#5391473 - 03/12/06 10:09 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you think that the drug laws would be less severe if drugs weren't associated with anti-war and anti-social movements?
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UrineVanderslope said:
Do you think that the drug laws would be less severe if drugs weren't associated with anti-war and anti-social movements?
If by "anti-social" you mean anti-establishment, then yes.
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Re: LSDempire [Re: Phluck]
#5395380 - 03/13/06 02:26 PM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Phluck said:
Is that really a skeleton? Was it immoral to do research funded by the CIA?
I think it's safe to say that most LSD research conducted or commissioned by the CIA was pretty immoral, and this seems to have been the case particularly in Dr. Cameron's case, as you'll find out if you google his name with 'LSD'.
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Re: LSD article and why its illegal [Re: Los_Pepes]
#7209862 - 07/22/07 11:55 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Here's the link to the article in pdf format.
http://ww1.cpa-apc.org:8080/Publications/Archives/CJP/2005/june/cjp-june-05-dyck-IR.pdf
Note this part.
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By the mid-1960s, the growing popular association of radicalized
youth and psychedelic drugs further reinforced LSD’s
image as a dangerous recreational drug and one, therefore, not
worth serious medical attention.
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