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complete id request with lots of pics!
    #7164936 - 07/12/07 08:14 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

these were found in wellington, new zealand. it has been raining quite consistently here (several times per day) and has been about 50 degrees F during day and 40 at night, or about 10 degrees C day and 4 at night.

habitat: found in an artificial (landscaped) habitat near sidewalks/footpaths. growing from manure and wood chip mix. some were found underneath small shrubs and some were unprotected, away from the shrubs.

gills: color ranges from tan to very dark gray from specimen to specimen (see pics). on some, gills are attached directly to the stem, and on some the gills recede towards the cap near the stem (this is also illustrated in contrasting pictures).

stem: hollow (see pic). not white. range in color from cream/tan to brown/cinnamon. color not necessarily uniform throughout each stem. at top of stem, vertical lines can be seen and it gets lighter in color just before it attaches to cap (see pics).

cap: not necessarily uniform in color throughout each cap. some are darker in center and near edges. caps range in color from from cream/tan to brown/cinnamon. this variability seems to be related to rain/moisture - darker after recent rain and they go lighter with no recent rain. some are slightly umbanate.

spore print: black

bruising: none, really. caps may bruise just to a darker color of itself.

smell: just plain mushroom

Grouping: not too dense, not too sparse. Fruits were on average 1-2 inches apart.


the print:


the haul (after they'd been in the freezer for a few mins):


other pics (before freezer):




showing relative size (though these were some of the smaller ones):


some with darker center on cap:


non uniform color on stem:


up the skirt (showing gill color variation):


shows vertical lines at top of stem and also some spores dropped onto the stem:


some gills connected straight to the stem, and lighter top of stem:


and some gills recede towards cap near the stem instead of directly attaching:


and lastly, the hollow stem:


CHUR CHUR!


Edited by sapphari (07/12/07 09:29 AM)


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: sapphari]
    #7164993 - 07/12/07 09:29 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I cannot precisely identify those, but I'm damn positive they aren't subs.

Some of them do bare a resemblance to subs, but I think your outta luck this time.

Sorry dude, keep trying.


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: masterxenn]
    #7165896 - 07/12/07 02:13 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Good pictures.

Your mushroom is a Psathyrella species, maybe this one:

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/psathyrella_candolleana.html

It is not edible, poisonous, or active.


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7166890 - 07/12/07 06:21 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

thanks alan and masterx!

can anyone confirm alan's id of psathyrella genus or have other ideas?


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: sapphari]
    #7166900 - 07/12/07 06:23 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Psathyrella species.

mj


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: mjshroomer]
    #7169595 - 07/13/07 03:59 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

thanks again john and alan. great to hear two responses from trusted members!


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: sapphari]
    #7172302 - 07/13/07 08:30 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

those are some fantastic photos dude...bloody good id request...


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: sapphari]
    #7172322 - 07/13/07 08:40 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

For future reference, you should never put fresh mushrooms in the freezer as it will turn them to yucky mush.


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: georgeM]
    #7173044 - 07/14/07 12:28 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I'll third that ID- Psathyrella.

GeorgeM, generally speaking, I agree- freezing turns mushrooms into a thawed out nasty sponge. However, I have had porcini frozen fresh and thrown frozen, directly onto the grill, and they are fantastic! Also, if you intend to make tea, then freezing may be appropriate.


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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: CureCat]
    #7173055 - 07/14/07 12:31 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, freezing will difinately aid in rupturing the cells, better allowing the Psilocybian compounds to come into solution with the water. for tea this could actualy be ideal.


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In faerie circles perchance I might, hope Elven honey bread to find.
Over stream and tangled root I leap, o'er bough and slumbering badger's keep.
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Re: complete id request with lots of pics! [Re: Cyberdyne]
    #7173548 - 07/14/07 03:22 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Cyberdyne said:
those are some fantastic photos dude...bloody good id request...




hey thanks! i thought some of the pics were a bit shit due to insufficient lighting but ive found a place in the house to photograph that has more light which produces much better images. i have taken some pics for my next id request that i think you guys will like! great macro photography...

about the freezing... yes, i realize it is not the best thing to do, but my house is ridiculously humid (no central heating, dehumidifier, or a/c) and even with a fan, my shrooms will not dry out. after a week they are still bendable. so i froze them in case they were active (it was dark at the time of picking and i was hoping for pan subbs)


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