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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: unbeliever]
    #6884134 - 05/07/07 11:07 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I agree, the healthcare angle concerning the addictive drugs is promising- look at countries like England where you can get heroin at your pharmacy if you have a prescription from the doctor.


The only problem I see with that angle is they only prescribe you, if you are already addicted. You have to take a drug test to prove you are addicted. This means black market is involved.

You need a way to get it for recreational use/abuse. Unless you could go to the doctor and get script just for the fuck of it. But i don't think they'd do that with the healthcare approach to drug regulation.


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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: dedjam]
    #6896833 - 05/10/07 07:51 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Its not the governments job to tell me what I can and cannot put in my body. No "drug" should be illegal.




I understand that a lot of people feel this way, however, I want to ask how people who hold this opinion would feel about some VERY MILD regulation.

IMHO anything that it is easy to accidentally overdose on (not cannabis or mushrooms, but perhaps heroin or meth) should probably have the equivalent of a child-proof cap. I'm curious how others would feel about something like this.

I'm a pretty die-hard Libertarian, but I feel that way for utilitarian, rather than philosophical reasons. As a result, I wouldn't really have a problem with some kind of mandatory "Hey! Don't take too much!" warning on some drugs, were they to be made readily available.


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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: Economist]
    #6898158 - 05/10/07 02:53 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I agree with that, I think their should be certain controls on the harder drugs- such as an age limit. Maybe for heroin and meth you could apply for a licence/photocard to be able to purchase them- with a cool off period of say a week or a few days. This could stop people getting drunk or making impulse decisions to try these drugs. For example I wouldnt want to see people having a bad day (breaking up/getting sacked or whatever) having a few drinks and then deciding to "go to the shop" and buy some smack. Philosophically I think everyone should be free and all drugs should be legal, pragmatically I think all drugs should be legal but perhaps there should also be some safeguards.

If heroin/crack/meth were legal should there be an age limit? If so what should it be?


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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: multivitamins]
    #6900678 - 05/11/07 04:34 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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If heroin/crack/meth were legal should there be an age limit? If so what should it be?



This one's hard. The pragmatist in me says it should be 18, because the idea that someone can make decisions about our government, but not about what to put into their own bodies seems silly.

However, the researcher in me admits that drunk driving fatalities did significantly decrease once the driving age was raised to 21, and accepts research that brain development might continue in many individuals until 21.

As I see it there's a toss-up between 18 and 21 for those reasons.


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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6901999 - 05/11/07 12:22 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Its not the governments job to tell me what I can and cannot put in my body. No "drug" should be illegal.







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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: StroFun]
    #6905231 - 05/12/07 08:31 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I like the way Bill Hicks put it:

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My final point about alcohol, about drugs, about Pornography...What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see or take into my body as long as I don't harm another human being whilst on this planet? And for those of you having a little moral dilemma on how to answer this, I'll answer for you. NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS Take that to the bank, cash it and take it on a vacation outta my fucking life




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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: Economist]
    #6923883 - 05/16/07 08:31 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I understand that a lot of people feel this way, however, I want to ask how people who hold this opinion would feel about some VERY MILD regulation.

IMHO anything that it is easy to accidentally overdose on (not cannabis or mushrooms, but perhaps heroin or meth) should probably have the equivalent of a child-proof cap. I'm curious how others would feel about something like this.

I'm a pretty die-hard Libertarian, but I feel that way for utilitarian, rather than philosophical reasons. As a result, I wouldn't really have a problem with some kind of mandatory "Hey! Don't take too much!" warning on some drugs, were they to be made readily available.




I'm not going to disagree with this. Put a warning on there (as long at its not propaganda). The public SHOULD be educated about the dangers of drugs, and if that means putting a warning on the box, than go for it. But dont tell me I cant have it...educate me, and then let me make my own decisions. Just as we do with cigs and alcohol.

I am also fine with regulating the sales to legal adults, just like with alcohol and cigs. I understand the need for regulation, I dont understand the need for prohibition.


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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: Silversoul]
    #7051605 - 06/15/07 11:45 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)
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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: Alounacara]
    #7061724 - 06/18/07 02:00 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

i think all drugs should be legal, i think there would much less interest in hard drugs like heroin and cocaine if they were legal, i honestly believe the only reason they are popular now is because dealers want to make mad profit so they get people hooked...if we let the government deal with these drugs they would come with BIG warning labels and such....and i think people would just abandon these drugs eventually.


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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: highdroponics]
    #7091915 - 06/25/07 06:39 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

It's a very hard issue... I think that possession of all drugs should be legal, but I don't think hard drugs should be legal to sell. I mean - you can't punish people for actions that don't harm other people, so they should be allowed to keep and use drugs. But you can prohibit trading them. It would be too dangerous to make heroin available in shops. I don't know how it is in USA, but in Poland it is hard to get heroin and you have to really want to get it in order to get it. If people could just go to shop and buy it, I think much more of them would try it.

That's why the only drugs I'm certain that should be legally sold are cannabis and MDMA. Cannabis - because it's relatively safe for everyone, and MDMA - because it would be more or less safe if users would be able to get it pure and know the exact dose they're taking.


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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: Mandark]
    #7091934 - 06/25/07 06:47 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

The mere fact that you categorized lsd and pcp together really means that you should have no opinion on this because you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.


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Re: Which Drugs should be legal [Re: Derami]
    #7091940 - 06/25/07 06:49 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

pcp and lsd or SOOOOO not in the same category


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