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 Gilbert101
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 First Time Salvia User 
#7072269 - 06/20/07 09:15 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm planning on trying some Salvia soon, and I'm wondering what's the safest, way to do it, while retaining a great experience? Also, what dosage would you suggest for 4 first time users?
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chairmanK
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 Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: Gilbert101]
#7072323 - 06/20/07 09:32 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Many users find that they have to try Salvia several times before they finally break through and experience the real trip. For your first time, you may need to smoke a whole lot of the most potent extract that you can get your hands on. Be warned that when you do finally arrive at the "other side", you may be extremely disoriented. When it hits you, you might not even remember that you just smoked a bowl 10 seconds ago. Don't panic.
I highly recommend that you get someone to be a sober sitter. Please please please use a sitter. People sometimes get up and walk around while they are lost in Salvia headspace. Walking blindly into stairs, furniture, open windows, busy traffic outside, etc. can result in injury or death.
This is not a fun, relaxing drug like Cannabis. I hope that your notion of a "great experience" allows for the possibility of some brief cosmic terror.
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: chairmanK]
#7073142 - 06/21/07 12:17 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man Salvia is all about panic
That is just one of the affects really and I say it best to try it alone. I felt really weird when I had people watching me, it was very creepy. The best way to try it is to go into the woods with a water bong and lay down in the grass and rip a bowl. Make sure to use a water bong and a torch lighter, water bong cools down the smoke that is very hot because of the torch lighter (at least to me). Just get some extract, 5x will work, but it will take a few times for it to work. The first few times are fun though. Just pack about a pinch of the extract, and if its plain leaves I would pack as much as you can. Take as big of as hit as you can and hold it in for thirty seconds. It is ideal to hold it in for thirty seconds.
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Gilbert101
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: clemens]
#7074693 - 06/21/07 10:08 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright cool, I think I'm just getting some dried leaf, so I'll just pack a big bowl and rip on it... And I think that I'm going to go first, wait until my trip's done, then have my next friend go, so we have 3 sitters and 1 tripper at all times. Is that a good way to do it, or will someone get freaked out?
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: Gilbert101]
#7074799 - 06/21/07 10:26 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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that'll work. have fun. 
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: Gilbert101]
#7074910 - 06/21/07 10:56 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've only done salvia a couple of times, but I broke through the second time. I smoked purple sticky stuff and I was by myself.
The first time, I smoked with some people, and my one friend went crazy. I would definitely recommend doing it by your self, somewhere comfortable.
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: implicitli]
#7074918 - 06/21/07 10:58 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I smoked 30x my first time and 60x my second, and they were both horrifying experiences.
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Gilbert101
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Alright cool, I'll try it with some pals the first time, and maybe by myself the second time. I'm hearing a lot of mixed reviews though, so maybe I should take it slower?
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: Gilbert101]
#7076896 - 06/21/07 06:28 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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my first time was 6x extract, and i broke though the first time. it was intense as hell but i enjoyed and i wasn't scared at all. but that's me, a lot of people find the experience scary and/or unpleasant. don't go into the experience thinking it's gonna be bad but don't underestimate it either. 
just take the hit, hold it and then let go. don't try to analyze what's going on(you'll have plenty of time to think about it afterwards), just go with the flow.
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: maggotz]
#7076970 - 06/21/07 06:41 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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ive done salvia 5x several times.. ive gotten "scared" but never relly broken through... im gonna try again tomorrow
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: kintos]
#7077033 - 06/21/07 06:52 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I broke through my first time with just some reg leaf, i bought an oz for like 10$ online, it glued my to the couch and i laughed at the tv soooooooo hard. I used a gravity bong
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: Da Hui]
#7077054 - 06/21/07 06:56 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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i don't think that qualifies as a break through.
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Da Hui
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: maggotz]
#7077073 - 06/21/07 07:00 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh it was a breakthrough, that shit is almost to intense tho
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: Da Hui]
#7077120 - 06/21/07 07:11 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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someone had posted a theory that said that the laughter during a salvia trip was a defense mechanism, it was you trying to hold on to this world. don't know whether that's has any scientific credibility or not, nice theory nonetheless.
my definition of a break trough is the type of experience that completely severs you from this world. you no longer are here, you no longer are yourself, you are truly somewhere else. i've had those laughing fits before, but whenever i had those fits i never broke through. i was still here.
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: maggotz]
#7077351 - 06/21/07 08:00 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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maggotz said:
someone had posted a theory that said that the laughter during a salvia trip was a defense mechanism, it was you trying to hold on to this world. don't know whether that's has any scientific credibility or not, nice theory nonetheless.
my definition of a break trough is the type of experience that completely severs you from this world. you no longer are here, you no longer are yourself, you are truly somewhere else. i've had those laughing fits before, but whenever i had those fits i never broke through. i was still here.
i agree 100%. your worst enemy on salvia is anything that can bring you back into reality (or whatever we call this crazy shit that goes on when we're sober...)
That is the exact reason its optimal to NOT watch tv, or have lights on, or loud noises (i prefer silence, some people don't like it).
not that you can't have an intense trip on salvia doing those things, but I wouldn't call it a breakthrough either. Also not saying that laughter means you aren't having a breakthrough - I almost always laugh during breakthroughs, although they certainly bring you back quicker.
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: kotik]
#7077368 - 06/21/07 08:04 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've only had the laughing fits twice. both times it was just before i broke through, you know that moment you realize shit is about to get insane. at that very moment i broke into laughter and my trip was cut short. it was still very intense but i definitely did not break trough.
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: Da Hui]
#7077413 - 06/21/07 08:19 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Da Hui said:
I broke through my first time with just some reg leaf, i bought an oz for like 10$ online, it glued my to the couch and i laughed at the tv soooooooo hard. I used a gravity bong
Yeah, that's not a breakthrough. That's being really stoned on salvia. There's a massive difference.
If you broke through, you wouldn't be able to watch the TV. Or feel glued to the couch, or even know that there's a couch there.
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maggotz
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exactly. 
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chairmanK
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Tchan909 said:
Yeah, that's not a breakthrough. That's being really stoned on salvia. There's a massive difference.
If you broke through, you wouldn't be able to watch the TV. Or feel glued to the couch, or even know that there's a couch there.
+1. Here's an approximation of my internal monologue when I had a breakthrough:
"Hmmm, interesting, I think that I might feel something now-
something something something something something
the elves are singing the something song
la la la la
ooh I am a leopard
what is a leopard? leo- Leonardo da Vinci- leo lex law
what is an am? what is an I? what is a what?
thingsome thingsome thingsome thingsome
osetingmh osetingmh osetingmh osetingmh
111010001011101000101010100111100101010
101010100001010101010100111101010101011
111110101010101010101010101010101010101
1101010 1010101 11 11 01
10 01 011 1 0 011 1
1 0 101010 1000
100"
and then, it actually started to get weird...
Edited by chairmanK (06/22/07 11:46 AM)
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Re: First Time Salvia User [Re: Gilbert101]
#7079673 - 06/22/07 11:51 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gilbert101 said:
Alright cool, I think I'm just getting some dried leaf, so I'll just pack a big bowl and rip on it... And I think that I'm going to go first, wait until my trip's done, then have my next friend go, so we have 3 sitters and 1 tripper at all times. Is that a good way to do it, or will someone get freaked out?
i had two sitters the first time i did salvia. it was amazing. i really suggest sitters, because you really don't know how you're going to react. i'll admit, i got a bit freaked out because i didn't remember smoking and my friends were staring at me. MAN. that's what made it AWESOME.
don't worry. just make sure you have a trip sitter. taking turns works. i did it that way the first time.
i did 10x the first time. you might want to try that. dried leaves are a smoother ride, to me. i like them, but a lot of people don't even feel their effects (my friends).
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