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OfflineJacquesCousteau
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We fell down the dimensional steps...
    #7023699 - 06/08/07 05:03 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Am I the only one who has experienced the different steps of reality? (Trick question...)

It's like a series of consciousness divisions, only the "whole" version still exists in tandem... like they're happening in new tangible layers of reality each time.--but not replacing the prior.

Work with me here.

Let's start at the micro and work up, because that's easier for us to fathom than the flip-flop.

Let's say you write a story. The characters in that story grow and develop like real people. They take on a life of their own inside your mind, and become tangible entities. Maybe at first only to you, but soon enough to friends and family who have previewed the book or listened to you talk about it. They become real... with real emotions that anyone can experience through empathy. They're existing on a legitimate (however, lower) level of reality.

These characters exist in a microcosmic level of reality... a divison or "fragment" taken from the whole. "The whole" being the given space of manipulation granted to the creator, or in this case, author.

Now, the relative macrocosmic sect is, of course, the reality we perceive during most of our waking lives. You could say that this is the higher or larger reality, relative to the level of reality the book's characters experience. This is a higher dimension of reality.

Following the same structure upward, one can almost sense the next dimension's presence. This is because we are already within it. Simply displaced... to a place within that place, so that we might not notice. It is not something seperate and disconnected from us, but instead something that is so interlaced into our reality that we forget to see it, or protect ourselves from it instinctually.

As the stories we write are a part of us, so are we a part of a higher whole.

It seems that the next dimension of reality up, from which we've descended, (to find ourselves here) is synonymous with the Christian "heaven" concept... we exist there as archtypical creatures often referred to as "angels." Guardian angels, and all spirit guides, are parallel aspects of one's self manifesting on a higher plain.

It seems that, like characters manifest in our minds through what we've labeled "creativity," we might manifest in the mind of a higher dimensional version of ourselves.

It follows, then, that these dimensional creatures are actually creative constructs forming in the imagination of a still higher mind.

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Imagining God (The 10th Dimension)

Remember: This higher dimensional reality exists within, not without. It is a map towards a state of no-thought. Conscious connection with God is reached through understanding the unification of everything and therefore the futility of feigning control... not just physically, but everything you experience. The internal response you get from your senses' queries makes up what you experience... which is not physical reality, but a reflection thereof... a painting painted for you to interpret.

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But, seriously folks...

is any of this true? Not in the literal sense. Luckily, I didn't set out to declare truths.

This is a reflection of the reflection, and we all know light can only stretch so far. I've sketched a vague outline of the structure I've felt inward and outward... if the structure seems farmiliar when compared to your own internal themes, perhaps we might share and learn of our common stomping grounds.

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Re: We fell down the dimensional steps... [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #7023793 - 06/08/07 05:42 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

"we are all of one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively "

?

So your example of creating people for stories, they do not exist in our plane, but would you say that the dream world we go to each night is a place where such people exist and flourish? Is the dream plane a lower dimension than ours then? Does it have doors to ones higher than ours?

What happens when we try to interact with the real world and obtain its information from the dream world?


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Om bhur bhuvaha swaha tat savitur varenyam bhargo devasya dhimahi, dhiyo yonah prachodyat.
We meditate upon that supreme light , the source of all creation, may it illumine our intellects and bring us eternal life.


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Re: We fell down the dimensional steps... [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #7024129 - 06/08/07 07:15 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

The onion layers :smile:
I always wonder if they are really layers/dimensional steps... maybe we are just perceiving them as being so, adapting them in a way to make our rational and calculating minds to understand the notion of change. If we turn our backs from a highly populated street for two seconds we see something else. It's still reality but it looks different. And then we think wow it must have gone to the next level. and then we make a pattern in understanding reality in that manner.
If we choose to look at the same street we become that street and live the actual change rather than thinking it is changing. It is more than doing the math, it's being aware but unwilling to ruin that aliveness that we're experiencing in order to take notes.
I think that this example applies to everything, but only from a point of view and then there are so many others to complete it.
Such as that video, it explains something, but how do we actually do it? Can we explain the esoteric through a formula? I think not, but it most certainly gives us a better understanding and maybe we can use that understanding as a catalyst for intuition.
I know it happened to me. It's like we program our mind to stop being so fixed and make room for mindfulness, for sentience
But I think it's all in us. It is already there and it all comes down to what we focus our attention on.
Maybe we take this whole concept of going back and forward in time much too literally. What if it's all about consciousness expansion. Our bodies might be unable to move (due to the obvious biological limitations, laws of psysics) from 2007 to 1963  but maybe awareness can. And by reaching that information is like going back in time and then we can make the proper change.

Then where do those characters come from? Isn't it so that we associate them with pieces of personality from the people we already know? Like, I take the sense of humor from my best friend, the charisma from my room mate and the intelligence from some brilliant scientist. What are the odds for such a person to really exist, considering how many people populate the Earth, not to mention the ones who died? It's almost impossible if somebody like that never existed.

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But, seriously folks...

is any of this true? Not in the literal sense. Luckily, I didn't set out to declare truths.

This is a reflection of the reflection, and we all know light can only stretch so far. I've sketched a vague outline of the structure I've felt inward and outward... if the structure seems familiar when compared to your own internal themes, perhaps we might share and learn of our common stomping grounds.




Is telepathy real?
There are moments when it feels like the greatest lie ever told and then there are moments when we say holy shit it exists.
Again I think about focusing our attention in a certain direction.
If we experience it and those around us experience it too, I think it exists. Even if it hasn't been scientifically proven :rolleyes:
What about the laws of physics? Are they really real? Sure, for these exact conditions they are. But do they also apply in space?

I remember of a trip I had which took place after a period of denial. Where I felt like losing human connection because I was lying to myself, so I couldn't be honest to those around me. and chaotic thinking and acting occurred as a result to this.
So yes, the trip, the Earth shaking my fixed thinking and me feeling despair and then relief. The peak of awareness happened on the come down of the trip. Not really important but what follows relates to your question.
After that trip I stopped lying to myself and became honest to others which felt the most natural thing. And then I started experiencing stuff what people usually relate to being psychic. It was/is not because I have some out of the common abilities, it was clearly because I broke down those walls and allowed myself to be more receptive.
So what is really internal and external? Perhaps it is that place we don't wanna go to and when we decide to go there we realize that it has always been part of us :shrug:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: We fell down the dimensional steps... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7026648 - 06/09/07 12:44 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

"It seems that the next dimension of reality up, from which we've descended, (to find ourselves here) is synonymous with the Christian "heaven" concept..."

I feel that its the words that put a kind of ceiling on the reality. More so the accepted meaning of the words culture uses to paint reality. I feel that this is the reason for the use of parables. Different words/tweaked meanings reflect colorful pictures that lead into hidden realities... or higher dimensions or greater awareness.





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Re: We fell down the dimensional steps... [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7026909 - 06/09/07 02:35 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

well yeah man strawberry feilds and the glass onion.:grin:

mushroom trip i have to say i love you lol

any who it all goes back to the Kabbalah aka the receiving

http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephirot_%28Kabbalah%29

notice the similarity of that little diagram and the tree of life its kinda the same thing sacred geometery tho the tenthdimension forgets the 11th ... da'at

and for shits sake


http://youtube.com/watch?v=JsazyrveX7M


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: We fell down the dimensional steps... [Re: thedudenj]
    #7027012 - 06/09/07 03:16 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Ahh this reminds me of their animation yellow submarine :heartpump:


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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: We fell down the dimensional steps... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7027017 - 06/09/07 03:18 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

:inlove:
this all has to do with us moving into the 5th world that the natives spoke of and the loss of time. this can be witnessed in everyday life. you can see living alternates of people and future children and such now that i really dont know how to explain in words. but everyone you know is all you will ever know just speard out over the world i think rodger waters said it well as.
All that you see
All that you taste
All you feel
All that you love
All that you hate
All you distrust
All you save
All that you give
All that you deal
All that you buy
Beg, borrow or steal
All you create
All you destroy
All that you do
All that you say
All that you eat
And everyone you meet
All that you slight
And everyone you fight
All that is now
All that is gone
All that's to come
and everything under the sun is in tune
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon

and this was a lesson he learned from syd barrett that i dont think he will ever understand

syd said once
aLL movement
is accomplished
in six stages,
and the seventh
Brings return
The seven is the number of the young light
It forms when darkness is increased by one

        Change return success
        Going and coming without error
        Action brings good fortune
        Sunset

        The time is with the month of winter solstice
        When the change is due to come
        Thunder in the Earth, the course of Heaven
        Things cannot be destroyed once and for all

        Change return success
        Going and coming without error
        Action brings good fortune
        Sunset
        Sunrise

        All movement is accomplished in six stages
        And the seventh brings return
        The seven is the number of the young light
        It forms when darkness is increased by one

        Change return success
        Going and coming without error
        Action brings good fortune
        Sunset
        Sunrise
this was based on the I ching aka same thing Mc kenna based his time wave zero on...
i cant really say i have any orginal thought or feeling im just a apathetic/empathic puppet the real me placed here a long long time ago

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cFFoTXU-9KU

i guess theres a reason when poeple trip with my i turn into a gnome any who im just here for my wife who i have yet to meet in person but surely will soon.


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