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Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ?
    #6949983 - 05/22/07 02:12 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

1.Will the United states turn into the shit hole Mexico is, because of it?

2.Way won't the Mexicans stand up to there government ?


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950145 - 05/22/07 03:04 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

Mexicans work hard. Why would it turn into a shithole? However, there are a lot of Hispanics in gangs so we need to fix that by fixing our education system.

If you are worrying about this country going down the drain then I would worry about the evangelicals that think separation of church and state is bullshit. They are just as a much threat as Al Qaeda. Shiet, they are a more of a threat because there are millions of them here.

That dead faggot fuck Jerry Fagwell was all about that shit. I am glad he is dead. Now we need to ensure that his university dies with him. Those faggots are stuck in the dark age mentality just like the radical muslims who support sharia.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950164 - 05/22/07 03:12 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

I wonder why the Americans won't stand up to THEIR government.

Corporations have totally taken control of America and created the American sheeple. They want slave labor and the democrats want votes. Eventually the middle class will realize they are being screwed.

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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950185 - 05/22/07 03:18 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

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1.Will the United states turn into the shit hole Mexico is, because of it?

2.Way won't the Mexicans stand up to there government ?





1. Have you been to casa grande arizona? :lol:

2. Pussies, like us.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: zorbman]
    #6950205 - 05/22/07 03:29 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

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>>1.Will the United states turn into
>>the shit hole Mexico is, because of it?
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No, barring the fact that a large segment of the southwest has a large indigenous Chicano population, America will not be the Next shit-hole Mexico. For many reasons.

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>>2.Way won't the Mexicans stand up
>>to there government ?
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Why won't the Americans stand up to their government? Wait, I think the Mexicans are doing a better job of standing up to their government than Americans are standing up to theres. Its just seems to be a job the Americans don't want to do lately. Last loud protest to the government was the Race Rally a few weeks ago. I'm sure if you pay attention to the news you say how professionally the LA police department behaved.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6404887
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6402337
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6188317

Theres a lot more stories of varying degree I can bring to you of Mexican People Standing up to their government. But its 3:30 in the morning i'm going to bed. Just remember these same bells of trouble rang over a hundred years ago, for Irish, Eastern Europeans, Italians, you name it. Were a country of immigrants. we have had issues with it in the past.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: downforpot]
    #6950206 - 05/22/07 03:29 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

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Mexicans work hard.




you obviously only know the stereotype of mexicans and never really had to work
with them, more than 7 million illegal aliens are milking welfare and while many
are hard working, most of those are already naturalized citizens


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #6950265 - 05/22/07 03:51 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

Illegal Aliens Waging ‘Silent War’ on US, Says Minuteman ActivistTopics ::: MMP News, Alien Criminals |
By Randy Hall - CNSNews.com Staff Writer/Editor

(CNSNews.com) - The U.S. is engaged in “a silent war” conducted by illegal aliens that is causing a higher toll than the war in Iraq, according to the founder of an immigration watchdog group.

While the mainstream media is focused on the Iraq war, this ongoing silent war is “taking its toll in lives and domestic tranquility,” said Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project.

“Since 9/11 alone, about 45,000 U.S. residents have been killed in action via homicide or manslaughter at the hands of illegal aliens, and about another quarter of a million to 300,000 have been wounded,” Gilchrist told Cybercast News Service in an interview.

Gilchrist said he used the terms “killed in action” and “wounded” intentionally “because essentially, we have a war going on here that’s not a declared war, that’s not a conventional war, but it is costing us 9,000 lives a year.”

That amounted to “about 15 times the rate of KIAs [soldiers killed in action] in Iraq,” he said.

Gilchrist said the financial cost was also significant.

Welfare benefit programs used strictly by the illegal immigration population were costing “$400 billion a year - that’s four times the annual cost of the war in Iraq,” he argued.

Those funds were being spent on “a plethora of related welfare and benefit-type programs, including medication, education, housing, HUD subsidies, Social Security, all that stuff,” Gilchrist said.

“Our coffers are being plundered by those who don’t deserve them,” he noted. “Those programs were earmarked for American citizens.”

He said that figure did not include another half-trillion dollars lost each year “due to payroll and income tax fraud from the underground economy created by having 30 million illegal aliens in the United States.”

Gilchrist conceded that not all illegal immigrants were working and that not all who are working were doing so “under the table.”

“But a good portion of them are, and because they’re staying under the radar, no one knows who they are, where they are or what their intentions are.”

Estimates of the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. vary considerably, but the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) said the numbers cited by Gilchrist “sound about right.”

On the costs to the U.S. economy of illegal immigration, the CIS estimates federal costs per year at only $10.6 billion but notes that the vast majority of costs are incurred at the local and state levels.

Crime statistics relating to illegal immigrants are hazy, but on his website, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) says that 12 homicides and 13 drunk driving deaths a day are attributed to illegal aliens.

In testimony before the House Judiciary Committee immigration subcommittee in 2005, Manhattan Institute Senior Fellow Heather Mac Donald said that in Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide and up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants in the first half of the previous year targeted illegal aliens.

Representatives from the National Council of La Raza and the National Immigration Forum declined requests for comment on this article.

According to the Americas Project at the Center for American Progress, the U.S. is “making a futile attempt at using Border Patrol agents and physical barriers to regulate our labor market.”

“This massive misapplication of resources fails to make us safer and will not be remedied through appeals to fear, symbolism or by throwing good money after bad,” project director Dan Restrepo says on the center’s website.

“A safer, modern immigration system must combine border and workplace enforcement with mechanisms to regulate future flows of immigrants into our country and allow the 12 million undocumented already here to emerge from the shadows,” he added.

‘Multi-ethnic’

Gilchrist, a 56-year-old Marine veteran who received a Purple Heart for wounds sustained during the Vietnam War, founded the Minuteman Project in 2004 after “years of frustrated efforts trying to get a neglectful U.S. government to simply enforce existing immigration laws.”

The Minuteman Project describes itself as a “citizens’ vigilance operation.” Its main activity is to monitor the flow of illegal immigrants across the U.S. border from Mexico, though the group also promotes proactive enforcement of the nation’s immigration laws.

As Cybercast News Service previously reported, the group has been opposed by the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), which a year ago accused the group of being “racists” and “cowards.”

Earlier this month, Brent Wilkes, national executive director of LULAC, told Cybercast News Service that the Minuteman Project consisted of “pretty crazy folks.”

Gilchrist dismissed such accusations as “so ridiculous they hardly even merit a reply. If Wilkes would go to my website, he’d see that we’re a multi-ethnic - and I repeat, a multi-ethnic - immigration law-enforcement advocacy group.”

“My problem is not with legal immigrants. My grandparents were legal immigrants from Greece, Germany and England,” he said, adding that charges of racism are “the last resort of a scoundrel losing an argument.”

Still, Gilchrist said he sees a hopeful future regarding illegal immigration, in part because “the Minuteman Project is going to force debate on this issue.”

“Immigration is still strong in the hearts and minds of Americans, because it goes right to the preservation of our sovereignty,” Gilchrist added. “We just want to preserve a civilized society under the rule of law, under the First Amendment. That’s the way the Founding Fathers set it up.”

Gilchrist also noted another sign of the group’s progress. “We’ve got a guy who wants to start a chapter up in Canada. He’ll be the first non-American to be part of the Minuteman Project.”


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950297 - 05/22/07 04:00 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)



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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: deXtrous]
    #6950325 - 05/22/07 04:10 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

I'm not Anti-Immigration. I'm anti illegal-immigration, why should they be able to get away with braking the law, to better them self.When I'm in pain and can't smoke a flower to slow down the pain and better my life.The laws the law, right.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950419 - 05/22/07 04:49 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

Same here, Im not anti-immigration, Im anti-illegal immigration. I think get in line and when a need arises we will give you a call and you can pay taxes like the fucking rest of us. What pisses me off is this attitude of how they think they deserve something.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950470 - 05/22/07 05:09 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

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1.Will the United states turn into the shit hole Mexico is, because of it?

2.Way won't the Mexicans stand up to there government ?




Their*




Umm.. the U.S. was in decline before the recent flood.

Education scores, shameful infant mortality rates, freedom of the press, privacy rights, general health, literacy scores..... you name it. It was in decline.

What about the patriot act 1&2 , victory act 1 & 2? The removal of the insurrection act? Countless executive orders(more then any president in history) that grants Bush an unusual amount of power)


Cry all you want :bitch: but the bottom 5 states of America were heavily populated by Mexicans before they were brutally sluaghtered during America's early expansion.

You know how some people say the reason tourist get sick from Mexico's water is because it's Montezuma's revenge or curse.

Well, this is similar. Expect far more serious. And even sometimes kinda funny to the rest of the world. Well, at least me.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6950485 - 05/22/07 05:16 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

My spelling isn't the best.But, did you study any U.S. history in high school? Can you show me the names of these "mexican" tribes and what states,they where in.I've study native american tribes of the southern usa.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950506 - 05/22/07 05:23 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

Uhh... Ok. They were Mexicans. ( Mexican Indians, and others)

Seriously, I don't need to take U.S. high school to know.

I'm a Canadian adult, and I read.
And what I said is basic fucking history. :yesnod:

Seriously...


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #6950533 - 05/22/07 05:29 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

what names

ARCTIC
Alaska USA
Aleut
Alutiiq
Inupiat
Yup'ik

ALGONQUIAN
Across USA
Abenaki
Arapaho
Blackfeet
Cheyenne
Chippewa
Conoy
Cree
Delaware
Gros Ventre
Illinois
Kickapoo
Mahican
Massachusett
Menominee
Miami
Micmac
Mohegan
Nanticoke
Odawa
Passamaquoddy
Potawatomi
Powhatan
Sac and Fox
Saulteaux
Shawnee
Wiyot
Yurok

AZTECAN(?may be these?)
Southwestern USA
Cahuilla
Comanche
Cupeno
Gabrieleno
Hopi
Kawaiisu
Keres
Kiowa
Luiseno
Mono
Newe
O'odham
Paiute
Serrano
Shoshone
Tanoans
Tubatulabal
Ute
Yaqui
Zuni

CADDAON
Central USA
Arikara
Caddo
Pawnee
Wichita

GULF
Southeastern USA
Atakapa
Chitimacha
Natchez
Tunica

HOKAN
Southwestern USA
Cocopah
Esselen
Karuk
Kumeyaay
Mohave
Pai
Pee Posh
Pomo
Salinan
Shasta
Washoe
Yana
Yavapai
Yuma

IROQUOIS
Eastern USA
Cayuga
Cherokee
Erie
Huron
Mohawk
Neutral
Nottaway
Oneida
Onondaga
Seneca
Susquehanna
Tuscarora
Wenro
Wyandotte
ISOLATES
Across USA
Brothertown
Calusa
Chumash
Coahuiltec
Karankawa
Kootenay
Ninilchik
Quileute
Timucua
Tonkawa
Yuchi

MUSKOGEAN
Southeastern USA
Alabama
Apalachee
Chickasaw
Choctaw
Coushatta
Creek/Seminole
Miccosukee

NA-DENE
Across USA
Ahtna
Apache
Coquille
Deg Hit'an
Eyak
Gwitch’in
Haida
Han
Holikachuk
Hupa
Koyukon
Kuskokwim
Mattole
Navajo
Tanaina
Tanana
Tlingit
Tolowa
Wailaki

PENUTIAN
Western USA
Chinook
Costanoan
Klamath
Maidu
Miwok
Nez Perce
Oregon Coast
Sahaptin
Tsimshian
Wintun
Yokuts

SALISH
Northwestern USA
Arrow Lakes
Clallam
Coeur d'Alene
Columbian
Nooksack
Okanagan
Olympic
Pend D'Oreille
Puget Sound
Spokane
Straits
Tillamook
Twana


SIOUX
Central USA
Assiniboine
Biloxi
Catawba
Crow
Hidatsa
Iowa
Kansa
Mandan
Monacan
Omaha
Osage
Otoe
Pee Dee
Ponca
Quapaw
Saponi
Sioux
Teton
Winnebago


WAKASHAN
Northwestern USA
Makah

YUKIAN
California USA
Wappo
Yuki


Show me the ones


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950558 - 05/22/07 05:39 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

Well if we are going to be anal you guys killed lots of all of them. But as I said, the 5 states that boarder Mexico. It's your country, do I have to explain it all to you???

The southern Indians.
They're on your list.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6950561 - 05/22/07 05:40 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

I was shocked to see how many hispanics are on the DEA's most wanted list. Seriously atleast 70%...most illegal, as well.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: rhet]
    #6950568 - 05/22/07 05:43 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

Ya, and the DEA is fighting for freedom.

Hmmmm, maybe we can help them in some way:cop:


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6954447 - 05/23/07 12:39 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

I am a legal* immigrant to the US, and my take is that they should round up illegals and dump them at the border. It's bullshit that I have to jump through all kinds of legal hoops to get here and obey the rules and pay taxes out the ass, and now illegals may get amnesty.

I'm not against immigration, obviously, but there are rules that are important to the security of the country. And unlike the idiots in these protests, I don't bray about my "rights" and what I deserve. I am a guest in this country and it is a privilege and honor to be here.

I think the net effect of admitting lots of unskilled workers from Mexico is that wages will plummet and low income Americans will be worse off while the rich pocket the savings.

My other problem is the decline in English in America. I can't even go to Subway in San Jose anymore. None of the people working there speak English and it's frustrating. Learn English or get out.

*legal assuming my company's idiot immigration lawyer renewed my visa.


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Re: Illegal immigration = Colonization of the United States ? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6954461 - 05/23/07 12:41 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

If the US does in fact "turn into Mexico"(in reality, it's only a couple border states that would be affected in such a way), it will be karmic retribution for the Mexican-American War.


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    #6954554 - 05/23/07 01:03 AM (6 years, 4 days ago)

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I am a legal* immigrant to the US, and my take is that they should round up illegals and dump them at the border. It's bullshit that I have to jump through all kinds of legal hoops to get here and obey the rules and pay taxes out the ass, and now illegals may get amnesty.

I'm not against immigration, obviously, but there are rules that are important to the security of the country. And unlike the idiots in these protests, I don't bray about my "rights" and what I deserve. I am a guest in this country and it is a privilege and honor to be here.

I think the net effect of admitting lots of unskilled workers from Mexico is that wages will plummet and low income Americans will be worse off while the rich pocket the savings.

My other problem is the decline in English in America. I can't even go to Subway in San Jose anymore. None of the people working there speak English and it's frustrating. Learn English or get out.

*legal assuming my company's idiot immigration lawyer renewed my visa.




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