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 Sporetastic
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 Does wet spot completly stop myc growth?
#6935668 - 05/18/07 04:38 PM (5 years, 11 days ago) |
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Or does it just slow it down? I thought My jars might have wet spot but I can see now the myc is still growing.
Does this mean no wet spot?
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figgusfiddus
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Re: Does wet spot completly stop myc growth? [Re: Sporetastic]
#6935689 - 05/18/07 04:44 PM (5 years, 11 days ago) |
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They will grow, but to what extent is totally up in the air. I have some with wet spot that I markered for reference, and some of the really rhizo spots keep on going... but they will reach a peak. Bacteria wins in every fight with a mushy.
Some people have had successful fruiting anyway with mildly bacterial jars, but in my mind that probably means removing uncolonized substrate and killing off your wet spots with peroxide, plus some good luck.
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Re: Does wet spot completly stop myc growth? [Re: figgusfiddus]
#6935710 - 05/18/07 04:51 PM (5 years, 11 days ago) |
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It might depend on the substrate but I just had some popcorn jars that, if they had not stoped, had damn near stopped. Kind of odd when you consider myc will live in water =/
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Sporetastic
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Re: Does wet spot completly stop myc growth? [Re: tibberous]
#6935727 - 05/18/07 04:55 PM (5 years, 11 days ago) |
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Im going to attempt to birth them in the next few days if things don't really pick up.
I'll cut off the uncolonized parts with a sterile knife, then cut even pieces of myc and lay them along the bottom of the pan. I will take any remaining myc and crumble it in any gaps to creat an even layer. Then I will case with a thin layer of coco coir. And hope for something to happen. I hope I get a few shrooms outta this.
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figgusfiddus
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Re: Does wet spot completly stop myc growth? [Re: tibberous]
#6935728 - 05/18/07 04:55 PM (5 years, 11 days ago) |
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Wet spot, if I'm not mistaken, is a term used to describe a localized bacterial area. It tends to happen near the surface of a jar because that's the most likely area to become anaerobic.
See, myc needs oxygen, but many bacteria only need a teensy tiny bit, if any at all. This is why a lot of jars that go bacterial smell a lot like cheap sake... you're smelling fermented rice.
No, don't drink it, I don't care how otaku you are.
On a tangent, I've been seeing a shit-ton of this lately, ever since I started getting to the bottom of my huge bag of vermiculite. I did 16 jars under identical conditions to all my previous ones (every one of which had worked perfectly), and all of them went bad. My guess right now is that it had a lot to do with the jars going anaerobic, due to insufficient aeration from really fine verm (which sinks to the bottom of the bag). The symptoms are a wet spot on the side of your jar that simply doesn't colonize... and sometimes colonization can be stunted all around.
So yeah, gotta go make another trip to the gardening supply store...
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Re: Does wet spot completly stop myc growth? [Re: figgusfiddus]
#6935812 - 05/18/07 05:21 PM (5 years, 11 days ago) |
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Bacteria is a greasy, or milky looking growth. It doesn't look 'wet' so wetspot is a horrible name for it. Cubensis won't win over bacteria. Other species such as the highly antibiotic P ostreatus will eat bacteria for lunch. Attention to sterile procedure is the answer. I use fine verm, and it's good for the filter and brf mix. The key is not to introduce bacteria from your hands, the air in the room, and especially your own breath when inoculating the jars. Leave the tape and foil off the holes in pf jars after inoculation. As hyphae said, the lids can be loosened as well for extra gas exchange, since the verm barrier is the filter.
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Grogan
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Re: Does wet spot completly stop myc growth? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6936458 - 05/18/07 09:14 PM (5 years, 11 days ago) |
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Bacteria is very milky greasy looking like RR said.. Mushies will not win... However they will try and progress looking like they might but they will stop growing it will look like a wall.
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