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 Malashroom
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 Tray is in recovery mode. Yay. 
#6902914 - 05/11/07 03:45 PM (5 years, 18 days ago) |
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I totally farked up the casing process for this, but it still seems to be struggling along :/
Edited by Malawar (05/14/07 06:00 AM)
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BlehMaestro
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 Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: Malashroom]
#6903058 - 05/11/07 04:27 PM (5 years, 18 days ago) |
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What'd you do wrong? besides using pure verm casing.
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: BlehMaestro]
#6903105 - 05/11/07 04:43 PM (5 years, 18 days ago) |
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Looks like a thin substrate layer is the biggest culprit here.
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: BlehMaestro]
#6903107 - 05/11/07 04:44 PM (5 years, 18 days ago) |
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You have a SERIOUS lack of fresh air exchange going on there, and that's why they're growing the long, skinny stems and tiny caps. Get that silly cotton or polyfill out of those holes and let them have some fresh air.
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6903117 - 05/11/07 04:46 PM (5 years, 18 days ago) |
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christ, can't believe i missed that. Good catch RR.
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: coda]
#6903150 - 05/11/07 04:56 PM (5 years, 18 days ago) |
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Yeah, I kinda figured it was either the FAE or the moisture so i've been misting and fanning a lot more lately, which produced the fat one in the bottom of the picture I think..
If I take out the polyfill, how often will I have to mist? (There's maybe 1.5 inches of wet perlite in the bottom [with a drain hole so there's no standing water])
Oh yeah. I botched the casing by not covering it, and just put some damp verm on top and threw it into the FC, which I have since learned is not the correct thing to do.
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Edited by Malawar (05/11/07 04:59 PM)
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: Malashroom]
#6903164 - 05/11/07 04:59 PM (5 years, 18 days ago) |
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Just mist as required. Every grow has different parameters based on ambient temperatures and humidity.
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6904611 - 05/11/07 11:02 PM (5 years, 18 days ago) |
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Definitely high levels of CO2 as well as lack of moisture as RR said long skinny stems with small caps are your indicators that more fresh air is needed and with that higher moisture levels.
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: hyphae]
#6904923 - 05/12/07 01:48 AM (5 years, 17 days ago) |
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I pulled out the polyfill and misted a few times today, hygrometer says it's around 95% humidity (though it's cheap and I didn't take time to test it's accuracy).. and the long sad one totally shriveled up and died 
The rest seem the same though.
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: Malashroom]
#6904997 - 05/12/07 03:22 AM (5 years, 17 days ago) |
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"Just my opinion, once you have hyphal knots turned into a good even formation of fully formed primordia, I give them FAE. Not before."
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4612776#4612776
At that point they`re begging for a fruiting chamber? thats the benefit?
I noticed the spot of primordial growth to the left of the fatty.
Oxygen is important for mycelial growth in primordia and fruit bodies also. yur fruiting before primordial growth has set in. those things might have popped up through cracks.
Vermiculite is a bad choice because its hard to colonize; linked to
primordial growth rate. FAE is a factor between the runt and the fatty; Another factor is time since the fatty is new;wich gave more time for its primordia to form..thats its drinking roots. RH keeps
it from drying faster than it drinks.
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Malashroom
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: ralphroks]
#6912619 - 05/14/07 01:51 AM (5 years, 15 days ago) |
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not sure what a hyphal knot looks like.
Anyway, the "fattie" has since tripled in size and actually looks like it might turn into a monster, but the rest of them seem to have stopped growing completely Of course, once I pulled the polyfill the fatass stopped growing for a couple days, but now he's back at it. Someone in IRC said I should pick the ones that stopped growing, though I doubt they'll amount to enough to keep around so I'll just toss them. I'd like a second opinion on this though.
I'll get some pics up once I get my camera back, should be tomorrow.
Edit:
Was thinking about taking an 80mm PC fan and rigging it up to blow some air into my FC for a few minutes a day, any comments? I'd be misting afterwards to try to avoid any drying out.
Edited by Malawar (05/16/07 06:11 PM)
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Re: Botched casing still struggling along [Re: Malashroom]
#6925739 - 05/16/07 03:14 PM (5 years, 13 days ago) |
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Im pretty sure you'll get yelled at by RR or somone for posting that pic
YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO USE USPS SHIT FOR ANYTHING! its against the law.
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