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 Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers
#6905693 - 05/12/07 11:59 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8P2TMT00&show_article=1
GUARATINGUETA, Brazil (AP) - Pope Benedict XVI warned drug traffickers Saturday that they would face divine justice for the scourge of illegal narcotics across Latin America, telling them that, "God will call you to account for your deeds."
Speaking before a crowd of 6,000 at a drug treatment center, Benedict urged "the drug-dealers to reflect on the grave harm they are inflicting on countless young people and on adults from every level of society."
Brazil is the second-largest consumer of cocaine after the United States, according to the U.S. State Department, and big cities across Latin America's largest nation are plagued by drug violence.
Driven by gangs that control street-corner dealing, the problem is particularly acute in the teeming slums of Rio de Janeiro, where gangs lure children into lives of violence and engage in near-daily shootouts with police that kill innocent bystanders.
"Human dignity cannot be trampled upon in this way," the pope said.
The treatment center where the pope spoke was founded by a Franciscan friar and claims an 80 percent success rate, giving addicts spiritual guidance as they milk cows, tend apple orchards and work as beekeepers.
It is just a short distance away from the shrine city of Aparecida, where Benedict on Sunday will open a conference of Latin American and Caribbean bishops aimed at finding ways to reverse the erosion of the church in the region.
Addicts who listened to the pontiff said his visit was important because Brazilian drug users are often ostracized and left to beg on the streets for drug money.
"We are excluded from society, but we are the ones the pope is coming to see," said Diego Cleto, a 19-year-old who started taking drugs at age 13.
The Garatingueta treatment center in a remote hilly region at the end of a dirt road was founded by Friar Hanz Stapel in 1983. There are now 31 similar farm/treatment centers in Brazil and 10 more in countries such as Russia, Mexico and Mozambique.
Before traveling from Sao Paulo Friday night to the hallowed Catholic religious site of Aparecida, Benedict lamented "difficult times for the church" in Brazil amid "aggressive proselytizing" by born-again Protestant congregations.
Brazil's census shows the percentage of citizens characterizing themselves as Catholics plunged to 74 percent in 2000 from 89 percent in 1980, while those calling themselves evangelical Protestants rose to 15 percent from 7 percent.
The backdrop to the bishops' conference is Aparecida, 100 miles east of Sao Paulo, and home to the mammoth Basilica of Aparecida—as well as the three-foot-tall statue of a black Virgin Mary, called "Our Lady Who Appeared," the patron saint of Brazil.
The statue was pulled from a river in the 18th century by poor fishermen who were not catching any fish, and then caught loads in their nets. Miracles were subsequently attributed to the statue, and so many pilgrims flocked to Aparecida that the church built the basilica and inaugurated it as a shrine in 1955.
On Friday, the pope canonized Brazil's first native-born saint in a Mass before about a million people. He held up 18th century Friar Antonio de Sant'Anna Galvao as a model of rectitude and humility "in an age so full of hedonism."
Benedict was cheered by flag-waving crowds in the world's largest Catholic nation as he canonized the new saint, continuing a push for saints in the developing world that began under John Paul II, who sought role models as part of the church's worldwide reach. John Paul canonized more saints than all of his predecessors combined.
Benedict also called on Catholics to "oppose those elements of the media that ridicule the sanctity of marriage and virginity before marriage," picking a tough crowd to confront about hedonism and permissiveness.
More than 70 percent of Brazil's 190 million citizens may be Catholics, but sex before marriage is common.
Scantily clad actresses are the norm on hugely popular TV soap operas, and women on the beaches wear bikinis that leave little to the imagination. Plastic surgery to reshape breasts and buttocks is nearly as popular as orthodontia.
The pope may be popular among Brazilian Catholics but most probably will not heed his call when it comes to sex, said David Gibson, author of "The Rule of Benedict: Pope Benedict XVI and His Battle with the Modern World."
"This is enormously frustrating to Benedict or any pope; they want to have more impact," Gibson added. But "how do you go against a culture like that? It's tough."
While polls show Brazilians oppose expanding access to abortion, they overwhelmingly support using condoms to prevent pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases—in firm opposition to church doctrine. The government, in fact, hands out millions of condoms for free every year, especially ahead of the debauchery that is an integral part of Brazil's pre-Lent carnival.
"Nothing could be more countercultural than his message in Brazil, the land of the thong," said Gibson, a former Vatican Radio reporter.
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Associated Press Writer Vivian Sequera contributed to this report.
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TurricaN
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The pope is stupid; that's why he hasn't got a REAL job.
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Siekoaktiv
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: TurricaN]
#6905847 - 05/12/07 12:58 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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In general, ignorant closed minded religious people annoy me, but it takes it to a whole new level when they truely believe that a God wouldn't create plants for us to enjoy. I mean really, would he WANT us to have boring, meaningless lives???
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 Diploid
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Doesn't the pope drink wine when he says mass? Alcohol isn't a drug?
Ah, I get it. Hypocrisy by the Church. Nothing ever changes.
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OneMoreRobot3021
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: Siekoaktiv]
#6905851 - 05/12/07 12:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I don't exactly disagree with the idea that South American drug kingpins are destined for an afterlife in hell, considering what they put their countrymen through in their pursuit of dollars.
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mikebart101
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Im waiting for an 11th commandment from the church that states, "Drugs are bad". LOL
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chemiKalz
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: mikebart101]
#6905932 - 05/12/07 01:26 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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the pope can suck me 
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Staiden
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: chemiKalz]
#6905964 - 05/12/07 01:33 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Thats a pretty strong statement coming from him. Who is he to say god will punish them, this guy has no clue whats goin on. Not that i really even believe in god, but still you know what im tryin to say.....
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Capatalistc nomad
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: Staiden]
#6906100 - 05/12/07 02:24 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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imo it even goes against the churches belief in forgiveness.
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in times of widespread chaos and cofusion, it has ben the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m anagment, too much programming and controll, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption
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Siekoaktiv
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Quote:
Capatalistc nomad said:
imo it even goes against the churches belief in forgiveness.
The concept of HELL goes against the churches belief in forgiveness...
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I believe this is about Cocaine, if it is, then I believe the pope isnt that bad of a guy for saying that its destroying things, because Coke is a drug that I would never, ever touch. Its a drug that I dont see ANY good in, its only there to be "abused", unlike psychedelics, which can be used to do great things.
I know many friends who have fucked themselves up on Coke, because its all for the rush, its all to get high, and it is a problem in many countries, where im SURE that young kids get into it and fuck themselves up.
Heavy drugs are giving the "soft drugs" the bad rap, and are giving ALL drugs a bad rap. With the media coming up with statements like: "Muchrooms have the ability to be abused and addictive, like heroin".
If it were up to me id get rid of coke, heroin, and meth. Because these are the drugs destroying lives, not pot, shrooms, lsd, mescalin, etc.
But hey, its not up to me, lol.
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TurricaN
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: TuneInTurnOn]
#6906148 - 05/12/07 02:43 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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TuneInTurnOn said:
I believe this is about Cocaine
If it was, then he should say Cocaine and not "drugs", because "drugs" are not Cocaine.
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Ego Death
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Why did God create them then?
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brshroomer
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: TurricaN]
#6906201 - 05/12/07 03:03 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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well...first: the pope doesn't know shit...all he does is to stand there waving and saying shit...
i would advise you to never trust any man who wears a hat that is two times bigger than his head...
then... coke is of course abused, but mainly because people are not well informed... it's as abused as caffeine in my opinion...
and i think every drug has a useful, good side. coke inspired Freud to write his theory about dreams...although he also abused it, shooting up 3 times a day. see, it can be useful to something, that's what i mean...
in my country, the same as in the article, sure there's a lot of coke...but, the same people who are dealing coke are also dealing pot, that's why i think the pope said 'drugs'. there's a LOT of misinformed people, my sister once said to me that pot will kill you faster than cigarettes... I'm trying to do some work, teaching people about drugs in here(in the casual way..just fucking up the propaganda...)
and just to ask something i would like to see some religious person answer...:
why would god, in all his infinite power, let people go to heaven? is he a joker? what kind of sense of humor is that?! or, why would he let us, the small carbon-based beings, do something he don't like? doesn't he have infinite power?
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: TurricaN]
#6906365 - 05/12/07 03:47 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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TurricaN said:
The pope is stupid; that's why he hasn't got a REAL job.
and he's lazy.
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DNKYD
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Fantastic, Beni! I'm sure if the threat of injury, death, or life in prison didn't deter those pesky drug runners the ol' "God is gonna gitcha!" routine will work. 
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: DNKYD]
#6906627 - 05/12/07 05:06 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I liked the other pope better. I'm so sad he's gone 
Words will never explain the feelings I had for the beautiful man.
But this new benedict, I have to say, is a nutjob. Sorry to offend any catholics or religious people out there, but this man makes me feel sick (just looking at him). He has an evil look to him that I cant explain, and like other people have said, I don't think that going to a country (even if its full of catholics) and saying anything like
'If you do drugs, or deal them, you will go to hell. If you have sex before marriage, you will go to hell.'
It completely goes against what the bible taught about forgiveness and about not judging one another. The whole religion is contradictory and only started for Power and Business... Fuck I hate that religion. I like buddhism 
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: ShroooomerToo]
#6906961 - 05/12/07 07:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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<<He has an evil look to him that I cant explain,>>
Man, I've noticed this too, it really gives me the creeps. There's just something inherently evil-looking about him that I can't quite put my finger on. When I first saw his face on the news, I immediately pictured him going home and performing satanic rituals when in the privacy of his own dwelling. Odd, I know.
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: SuperD]
#6906997 - 05/12/07 07:29 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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He has the trademark star wars emperor look about him.
The look that says "I have a plan and it aint gunna' be good for you".
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I hope God does send people who sell crank, meth, cocaine, extacy, and all that synthetic crap straight to hell. Doubly so if you are lacing any of that shit w/ any other shit the buyer doesnt know about.
But the man who sells me an a 3.9 gram sack of good midgrade buds for $40, well, I pray that God blesses him!!! 
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: MubZ]
#6907356 - 05/12/07 08:45 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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MubZ said:
I hope God does send people who sell crank, meth, cocaine, extacy, and all that synthetic crap straight to hell. Doubly so if you are lacing any of that shit w/ any other shit the buyer doesnt know about.
But the man who sells me an a 3.9 gram sack of good midgrade buds for $40, well, I pray that God blesses him!!!
Amen! (just take out E, I think MDMA has good potential if its not abused)
And I agree, the Polish Pope rocked, this new one's got a crazy look in his eyes...I dont like that look.
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Edited by TuneInTurnOn (05/12/07 08:46 PM)
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Flipz
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: ShroooomerToo]
#6908134 - 05/13/07 12:08 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
ShroooomerToo said:
I liked the other pope better. I'm so sad he's gone
Words will never explain the feelings I had for the beautiful man.
But this new benedict, I have to say, is a nutjob. Sorry to offend any catholics or religious people out there, but this man makes me feel sick (just looking at him). He has an evil look to him that I cant explain, and like other people have said, I don't think that going to a country (even if its full of catholics) and saying anything like
'If you do drugs, or deal them, you will go to hell. If you have sex before marriage, you will go to hell.'
It completely goes against what the bible taught about forgiveness and about not judging one another. The whole religion is contradictory and only started for Power and Business... Fuck I hate that religion. I like buddhism
just an FYI, The old pope you talk about who was so awesome was also sold Cyanide during the WWII Era. No joke, do a little research man. fucked up shit with these so called men of god.
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: Flipz]
#6908278 - 05/13/07 12:58 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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What happened to this religious bullshit that only god can judge? I hate religion.
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DadeMurphy
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Re: Pope: God Will Punish Drug Dealers [Re: MubZ]
#6908470 - 05/13/07 02:19 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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FYI cocaine is not a synthetic drug. And synthetic does not equal evil.
And like the other guy said - MDMA is a very promising and enjoyable substance.
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