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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: delta9]
    #6867853 - 05/03/07 01:58 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

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While experts warn that the smoking the plant can become addictive and cause brain damage, it is considered less harmful than marijuana, because it is usually smoked without the addition of harmful chemicals.



I don't think anything that causes brain damage is less harmful than marijuana.




I've seen "experts" claim that Marijuana is addictive and causes brain damage.


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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: Taharka]
    #6867916 - 05/03/07 02:12 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

they need to redefine expert


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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: daytripper05]
    #6868415 - 05/03/07 03:50 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

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“I don’t do marijuana – I smoke this because it’s more natural, and gives me a different sensation,” he said.



wtf?




I read the same thing and thought...wtf?




Exactly same here. ha.


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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: Rootmere]
    #6868718 - 05/03/07 05:12 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

It seems like everyone is saying the same thing "blah blah, fuck this shit MJ is just as natural" etc.

What im interested in is: has anyone on the shroomery actually TRIED it?


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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: TuneInTurnOn]
    #6868871 - 05/03/07 05:49 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

i wonder if i smoke some Lobelia Elmfire I could get the same high???

I'll try source it out at the nursery i used to work at


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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: indica]
    #6868977 - 05/03/07 06:11 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

some species of lobelia act upon the nicotine receptors for very long periods of time, compared to Nicotiana species, say for several hours. They put lobelia inflata in smoke cessation formulas because of this, makes you not want more. I believe this plant is mentioned in Plants of the Gods.

But thats a bullshit story, damn.


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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #6869203 - 05/03/07 06:58 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

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i can see the head-lines now:

"Chilean plant causes effects similar to LSD, Extacy, and Methamphetamine when smoked" hahahahahaaaaaa




ill give it a month or 2


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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: Muufokfok]
    #6869330 - 05/03/07 07:24 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

I am going to Chile in 2 weeks! I will have to try and seek this out! It shouldn't be to hard since I am staying with a buch of students from one of the biggest universities in Chile.

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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: aaei67]
    #6869378 - 05/03/07 07:33 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

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Native Americans used Lobelia to treat respiratory and muscle disorders, and as a purgative. Today it is used to treat asthma and food poisoning, and is often used as part of smoking cessation programs. It is a physical relaxant, and can serve as a nerve depressant, easing tension and panic.

As used in North America, Lobelia's medicinal properties include the following: emetic (induces vomiting), stimulant, antispasmodic, expectorant, diaphoretic, relaxant, nauseant, sedative, diuretic, and nervine.

Because of its similarity to nicotine, the internal use of Lobelia may be dangerous to susceptible populations, including children, pregnant women, and individuals with cardiac disease. Excessive use will cause nausea and vomiting. It is not recommended for use by pregnant women and is best administered by a practitioner qualified in its use.




The plant is interesting enough, but it doesn't sound as benign as Cannabis after all. Sounds very similar to tobacco, though it isn't solanaceous. The active alkaloid is Lobeline . Most of the information on Lobeline I found was about it's use in smoking cessation.


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Re: University students get high on "Devil's Tobacco" [Chile] [Re: aaei67]
    #6869599 - 05/03/07 08:24 PM (5 years, 26 days ago)

awesome man, bring us back some news about the drug, take pics of it and compare experiences.
itll be interesting to see response from a shroomerite


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