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 EntheogenicPeace
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 Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? 
#6788119 - 04/14/07 05:20 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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The other day I switched a monotub (my first one!  ) to fruiting mode as mycelium had broke through the surface of the casing layer in numerous spots. In addition to dropping the temp. & giving it 12 hrs. of light daily, I swapped the Gorilla tape that had been covering the holes for poly-fil. I was just wondering if using cut out pieces of a coffee filter taped over the holes would be better for FAE than the poly-fil I currently have stuffed in, or would there be too much of a humidity drop?
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 Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6788220 - 04/14/07 05:47 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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The coffee filters will get soaked from the humidity. They're organic, so they'll start to mold.
Stick to Poly-fil, or just use open holes.
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: Sillicybin]
#6788273 - 04/14/07 06:02 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I thought that might be a problem, but i wasn't sure if they would if taped on the outside of the holes. If I leave them completely open I would imagine the humidity would drop considerably; thus one would have to water the casing layer regularly, kind of defeating the point of making something that you leave alone until harvest. I'll leave it as is with the poly-fil & see how the first flush turns out. I used MonsterMitch's tek as a guide for this & his flushes apparently turned out fine using poly-fil, so hopefully mine will to.
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6788289 - 04/14/07 06:07 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I disagree with the entire philosophy of filtering air for a fruiting chamber anyway, but trying to stop contaminants with a coffee filter is like trying to stop a bird with a barbed wire fence. The holes in coffee filters are large enough for mold spores and bacteria to sail right through.
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6788581 - 04/14/07 07:29 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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^^^I agree. But there is the creepy crawlies that it could help with.
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6788869 - 04/14/07 08:56 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stopping contaminant spores isn't the reason I was considering switching. I was actually trying to find a way to improve FAE without having the humidity drop to unacceptable levels & the casing layer dry out; as I'm unsure as to how much FAE occurs with poly-fil in the holes.
Edited by EntheogenicPeace (04/14/07 09:32 PM)
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6788917 - 04/14/07 09:08 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have always used coffee filters for my jars and my fruiting chambers... as long as I use a lil hyd peroxide i never have a contam problem and it doesnt affect my myc..
Dont get me wrong though...I have had success.... that dont mean shi+... use polyfill... it works wonders and you wont have as many things to worry about... coffee filters are just my personal experience... goof around with a few things and see what works better... then write a tek.... the more the better...
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6788967 - 04/14/07 09:21 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Could you elaborate on this?
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RogerRabbit said:
I disagree with the entire philosophy of filtering air for a fruiting chamber anyway....
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: coAsTal]
#6788980 - 04/14/07 09:26 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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He means that fresh air is more important than attempting to block mold and contams when the substrate is fully colonized!
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#6788994 - 04/14/07 09:30 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, I'm gonna most likely stick with poly-fil like the tek says. I was just curious if there was a better way to do FAE while still keeping the humidity high & the moisture content of the casing layer at its proper level (like poking some small holes in some tyvek squares & taping them over the monotub's holes).
I just want my first time to be special & go well... is that so wrong?
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#6789059 - 04/14/07 09:49 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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A thin piece of open cell foam.
Or, the black pre-filter material.
(about 1/4 inch thick)
That goes around Honeywell free standing hepa's.
Works great, to keep out gnats & crap.
That is what I use, on coolmists & fan motor FAE inlets.
Just to keep out gnats, insects & such.
Filtering FAE beyond that, isn't needed.
That is, if you did everything else right.
Up to exposure to FAE, high Rh & 12/12 light cycle.
If you did not, then your grow will usually go south, anyway.
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Re: Are coffee filters better than poly-fil for monotubs? [Re: agar]
#6789132 - 04/14/07 10:22 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Up to exposure to FAE, high Rh & 12/12 light cycle.
Got all three of those working for me.
I had a slight problem last summer & fall with insects getting into my f.c.'s because I had a couple of cannabis plants in my mycology area... never doing that again, lol; but otherwise gnats & other insects/bugs aren't an issue at all.
I'll look into using some kind of foam to fill the holes on my next monotub... see if there's any noticable difference in size of the crops.
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