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Invisiblemaggotz


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making salvia extract
    #6787570 - 04/14/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I'm thinking of making my own extract, I've been reading some methods and it seems relatively easy and cheap. I'm thinking of buying an ounce of leaves online and if it works I'll end up with a little over 2 grams of 10x. If I am happy with the results I'll buy a bunch of leaves and make a whole lot of extract. Then I might get some plants be and be self sufficient for the rest of my life haha. But i digress, has anyone done this extraction? is it as simple as it seems and most importantly is it worth it or should I just keep buying my extract?

The process is basically this:
1. soak salvia leaves in water to eliminate resins
2. dry leaves
3. soak in acetone fro 24 hours
4. strain and save acetone
5. soak in fresh acetone for another 24 hours
6. strain, discard plant material
7. evaporate acetone with ~2g(for a 10x extract) of leaf

that's basically it. does this method work? if so, how harsh is the extract? suggestions are welcome.

if you know a better method please let me know.

Edited by maggotz (04/14/07 04:07 PM)

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Re: making salvia extract [Re: maggotz]
    #6787776 - 04/14/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i don't have an extraction method for you, but i thought i'd give you a good option if your experiment doesn't work out, or if you just happen to have an ample supply of money:

ethnogarden.com

click on extracts. you'll find an assortment of salvia extracts(under diviner's sage), along with a plethora of other ethno-goodness. i've tested many of their products over the past couple years and i can vouch for a fine quality. although as a side effect sudden wallet weight loss can occur, so choose wisely.

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Re: making salvia extract [Re: maggotz]
    #6787782 - 04/14/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

You might look into this. This is more along the lines of what you should be doing.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_extraction4.shtml


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Re: making salvia extract [Re: DeMeTrius]
    #6787869 - 04/14/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i have bought extract several times, its just that i thought i could extract some myself if its not too complicated.

blewmeanie: that method is for tincture and i want smokable extract but thanks anyway.

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Re: making salvia extract [Re: maggotz]
    #6787934 - 04/14/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

Oh my mistake in that case your on the right track, although I have seen a few better methods online.(Just my opinion) But your defiantly on the right track.


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Re: making salvia extract [Re: blewmeanie]
    #6787957 - 04/14/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

any links to those methods? i'm open to suggestions since i'll do this probably until next month.

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Re: making salvia extract [Re: maggotz]
    #6788033 - 04/14/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

:google:


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Re: making salvia extract [Re: blewmeanie]
    #6788072 - 04/14/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

i've been doing the google thing for the past couple of days and that was the simplest method i could find.

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Re: making salvia extract [Re: maggotz]
    #6788146 - 04/14/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

This is just a quick example, but if you use the search function, you should be able to find anything you need.

http://salviaguide.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=ed0fdb594a89c4e8e710d56b08d265f1&topic=138.0


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Re: making salvia extract [Re: blewmeanie]
    #6789022 - 04/14/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

cant wait to make my own extract


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Re: making salvia extract [Re: Slizz]
    #6789160 - 04/14/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I have done several method and heres the best...
  take 10 parts Salvia and put aside one
  soak your 9 parts crushed Salvia in Methanol for about a half hour.
  filter
  add the one part you set aside
  evap alcohol....  leave the Salvia a tiny bit moist but no methanol smell to it and it will hit very very smooth and allow you to take monster tokes and therefore have more of an effect.
  stay under 10x or you will get too much black wax.
  this method is for unstandardized  and is very tasty if done right
  if it dries all the way it becomes harsh again
  I keep mine in the freezer  :thumbup:

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Re: making salvia extract [Re: cpw1971]
    #6789223 - 04/14/07 11:55 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: making salvia extract [Re: DeathCompany]
    #6789473 - 04/15/07 02:52 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

you don't need to wash the leaves
24 hrs is too long for acetone.
you will get too much wax.

chill leaves and acetone in freezer
then soak just 5 minutes (stirring with metal or glass),
reserve that fluid
then soak again 5 minutes (stirring with metal or glass),
and add that extraction to the first and proceed.

quick chilled acetone works very well to get the salvinorin out, the extract will still be gummy with some chlorophyl etc. but much cleaner (less chlorophyl and wax) than if you soak 24 hrs.

if you are good with the materials (smelly irritating solvents etc.) it is good to do it, otherwise it is fine to order on line.
growing plants is a bit difficult.
mine are struggling after 3 years but ok.
I save the fallen leaves



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Re: making salvia extract [Re: redgreenvines]
    #6789541 - 04/15/07 03:28 AM (16 years, 11 months ago)

whats freezing the leaves do?


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Re: making salvia extract [Re: DeathCompany]
    #6791904 - 04/15/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the tips guys, i hope this works out ok.

deathcompany: i think that is what i was thinking of doing i found it on erowid too.

redgreenvines: i read the method somewhere online and it said 24 hours, I've never done any kind of extraction so i wouldn't know if it works.

cpw1971: if the salvia is still moist, is it moist with methanol or what? is the smoke smooth or harsher than the dry extracts i have bought? i have no problem with the smoke but if it can be smoother, why not.

which is better acetone or methanol? also wher would i find either methanol or acetone? i'm getting really excited about this.

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