|
 Hyper_Panda_GO
Team Action!
Registered: 05/28/06
Posts: 9,720
Last seen: 9 days, 3 hours
|
 According to myth busters... 
#6773787 - 04/11/07 04:39 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Lifting heavy weights with little repetition builds muscle
WHile lifting light weights with much repetition makes you slimmer
Can anyone confirm?
--------------------
There is no valid reason you should be reading this
|
nunciate
Cold and Indifferent
 
Registered: 05/23/04
Posts: 889
Loc: Edge of the World
Last seen: 8 days, 19 hours
|
|
Whoa, man.
I have no idea why this'd even be on Mythbusters. I thought that was pretty well established fact since before I even existed.
Maybe I missed a new debate on the matter, but.... yeah, pretty sure that's the way it goes and goes.
--------------------
I am the devil and I am just like you
|
makaveli8x8
Stranger
Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 17,163
Last seen: 6 months, 3 days
|
Re: According to myth busters... [Re: nunciate]
#6773822 - 04/11/07 05:30 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
more reps = ripped
more weight = bulk
but i don't think anyone ever actually did a study on it...or if they did it wasn't well know (the study i mean) hence it was somewhat a myth to a common person.
--------------------
  We were sent to hell for eternity  Ø h®
We play on earth to pass the time 
Over-population the root of all Evil-brings the Elites Closer to the gates.
|
Legend9123
Registered: 09/24/06
Posts: 2,589
Last seen: 8 months, 21 hours
|
Re: According to myth busters... [Re: makaveli8x8]
#6773930 - 04/11/07 07:52 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Strength is low reps have weight. Bulk is medium reps medium weight. Endurance(toning) is high reps low weight. Confirmed.
--------------------
Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither.
-Benjamin Franklin
|
 YidakiMan
Stranger
Registered: 09/29/02
Posts: 2,023
|
Re: According to myth busters... [Re: Legend9123]
#6774254 - 04/11/07 11:03 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
WHen I was a cyclist and lifting in the off season my coach had me doing periodization. I can definately confirm that doing few reps (I did 3 sets of 7 reps) high % of your one rep max will build muscle and definition. Before the season started I was doing 1600lbs on the leg press machine. I'll never forget the two meatheads that watched me do my last set with their jaws on the floor. They even stayed to watch me put the weights away. Come to think of it maybe they were gay?
|
fireworks_god
SexyButt McDanger
Registered: 03/12/02
Posts: 24,198
Loc: Red Panda Village
Last seen: 4 hours, 43 minutes
|
Re: According to myth busters... [Re: YidakiMan]
#6774278 - 04/11/07 11:21 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Maybe they weren't gay at first but by the time you were putting away the weights, they were. 
--------------------
  
 
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
  
 
|
Cracka_X
Spiritual Dirt Worshipper
Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 8,739
Loc: Here
|
|
mythbustes is going downhill. They have nothing cool to talk about anymore.
I guess it depends on what you're trying to accomplish? They probably are looking at a very basic aspect of weightlifting. There's different type of training and that should be taken into consideration.
the HIT training, High Intensity Training, done by football coaches is basically 1 set of fucking everything until failure. For the freaks of nature this works really well, but for the average smoe this will lead to injury. There's a parody to it SHIT training, Super High Intensity... anyhow, then there's your olympic athletes, ones that incorporate cleans, snatch, squat, who take considerable amounts of rest and put all their effort into their various sets. There's so many types of training aimed at different parts of the body. It would've been nice if they mentioned the neuromuscular system and the stresses on it with different types of weight lifting.
I have a body building series and am supposed to have no longer than 30sec - a minute rest between each set. There's 12 exercises and am supposed to go through 3x10 each one. This is a differeny approach... You will get huge but at the same time you'll get lean. Kind of an aerobic workout, but at the same time you build up your glycogen stores and are capable of lasting longer with the same intensity.
We have a new coach who believe in doing 5sets of 1 or 2reps for bench and squat in a cycle where we're supposed to build our strength. Not saying that's wrong but that's a different school of thought based on probably what mythbusters is getting at. My old coach was the fucking bomb and derived his workouts from East Germany and the ol Soviet Union... The workouts were sifted a bit as far as how much we did because the Germans and Russians were on steroids so their ridiculous workload was much more attainable compared being steroidless and doing their shit.
different strokes for different folks.
--------------------
Click here to check out lineups for Magnoliafest and Springfest in Live Oak, FL
The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao ~Tao Te Ching/Daodejing
"Find what you're looking for by not looking for it." ~Old Hippie Philosophy
|
RoachMan
Comfortably Numb
Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 2,083
Loc: Midwest
|
|
Scientifically speaking...
When you lift heavier weights your muscle fibers actually rip and tear more. This in turn makes new fibers form.
Lifting light weights "tones" the muscle mass you've already got.
--------------------
"The mistake that I make is to try to come awake in a place you're just supposed to get shit faced or baked."
|
Syle
Stranger
Registered: 10/16/05
Posts: 6,505
Loc: PNW/USA
Last seen: 17 hours, 39 minutes
|
|
Quote:
fireworks_god said:
Maybe they weren't gay at first but by the time you were putting away the weights, they were.
 
|
Newbie
User of semicolons.
Registered: 07/18/04
Posts: 23,015
Loc: Suburbia
|
Re: According to myth busters... [Re: RoachMan]
#6778486 - 04/12/07 11:36 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Yeah and the new fibers form bigger, tighter, and stronger, resulting in bulker muscles. Definitely don't do the same muscle 2 days in a row. That's not giving your muscles enough time to recover.
|
Ninjetic
Comes With theSword
Registered: 03/30/07
Posts: 58
Loc: South
Last seen: 5 years, 11 months
|
Re: According to myth busters... [Re: Newbie]
#6778506 - 04/12/07 11:53 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
I've spent hours researching this when I was thinking of doing a cycle of roids. Basically if you're going for bulk you'll want to eat a lot of protein, complex carbs and calories so your body doesn't feed off of your muscle mass for energy. High rep low weight is definitely the way to go for toning, but you'll need muscle to tone before you do that so you'll generally want to go through a bulking phase first. The low rep high weight works, but you have to make sure to have TOTAL muscle failure on your last rep. Meaning if you're still feeling like you could do another after your 8th rep, increase the weight. Then take a day off of that muscle group so they can heal, then do it again. Be sure to eat every 2-3 hours to keep your metabolism high and fuel for your body to run on.
|
browndustin
dustybuddy
Registered: 10/03/03
Posts: 2,957
Last seen: 7 months, 4 days
|
|
There are no such things as toning exercises.
If I bench 200lbs for example, I'm recruiting muscle fibers in my chest. I can recruit slow, medium and fast twitch fibers by altering my pace... eccentric movements for instance create hypertrohpy far greater than the concentric movement, so I can exploit this and do lots of heavy, slow eccentric movements, etc. If one thing is certain, I'm not going to bring the striations and definition in my chest by lifting lighter weights for more repetitions.. especially there's fat on my chest.
Is this going to deepen my cuts? Hell no. It's going to waste more glycogen and my muscles will get pissy, become catabolic and leach precious amino enzymes from OTHER muscle mass. How do you expect to move forward when training like this? In essence, you're fucking yourself over and it's illogical to train with this sort of mantra. You're going to lose your hard-earned strength gains too, sans muscle memory. And if you're dieting and doing lighter weights, thinking that you're "toning" then you're double-ass fucking yourself with a 12" dildo.
If people want to tone, they should have some muscle mass to begin with and then they should start dieting down properly to keep it (I haven't lost more than a pound or two after dropping almost 20lbs of fat). When you're cutting, you need to train intelligently, HEAVY and make sure your macronutrient timing is on the ball. If you have sheaths of fat covering your muscle, there's fuck all you can do aside from LOSING THE FAT to make yourself look better. Keep it simple.
I'm cutting right now and GAINING strength... I'm not going to lift pussy-ass weights and fuck myself 6 ways from Sunday like other people. I only do one work set per body part, and I do a push/pull/legs routine. Most of my work sets are triple drop sets (hit failure, rest for 15 breaths), except for things like squats and deadlifts where that would be extremely hazardous. Both free weight and machine exercises have an enhanced eccentric phase, followed by immediate extreme stretches in hopes of causing further trauma, stretching fascia and inducing sarcoplasmic hyperplasia.
I'm basically training as efficiently as possible, doing what I can to train my muscles again as quickly as possible. For push day, I'd do incline bench, military presses and skull krushers with one monster work set for each. I'd stretch my muscle afterwards, work out other days/bodyparts and come back to the same muscle, but use a new set of three exercises... it's awesome. My days are like push/pull/off/legs/push/off/pull/legs... with an extra off day somewhere, depending on my recovery. I also train for around 6-8 weeks, continually beating my previous records in my log book, and then take 2-3 weeks for a "cruise" phase where I let my body recover and get my appetite back. It's called doggcrapp training and it's fucking intense (lots of tribal knowledge, I'll post a link to a bodybuilding journal once I get it up - VERY successful and hard work)
Cliffnotes: It's fucking stupid to blast through a very finite and weakened glycogen store in hopes of "toning" muscle. Only years of hard training and muscle maturity will bring out the serious cuts of hard, grainy, dense muscle - NOT LIGHT WEIGHT.
--------------------
When the stress burns my brain it's like acid raindrops
maryjane is the only thing that makes the pain stop
|
|
Images only 
Threaded
Previous
Index
Next
Edit 
Reply 
