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Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother
3rd April 2007 - dailymail.co.uk
A teenager who was crazed by high-strength cannabis butchered a grandmother after 'voices in his head' told him to stab a woman.
Ezekiel Maxwell, a paranoid schizophrenic, launched the horrific attack after years of smoking super-strength 'skunk weed'.
The 17-year-old claimed 'gangster voices' from the ultra-violent computer game Grand Theft Auto had set him on a mission to stab a black woman.
He is the second teenage cannabis addict in a month to be found guilty of killing others after smoking the substance. Thomas Palmer, 18, was jailed for life for murdering his two friends with a hunting knife near their homes in Wokingham, Berkshire.
Maxwell prowled the streets with a kitchen knife until he came across Carmelita Tulloch as she walked to her job at a photocopying firm.
He stabbed her seven times, leaving her to die in a pool of blood as he fled home to his family. The case highlights the dangers of the highly potent 'skunk'.
The number of under-18s treated for smoking the drug has doubled to nearly 10,000 in a year and medical experts said the link between it and mental health problems is now impossible to ignore.
Maxwell attacked 51-year-old Mrs Tulloch on September 5 last year after a night smoking skunk and playing Grand Theft Auto.
He believed he was one of the principal characters called Carl Johnson, who carries a knife in the Playstation game, Croydon Crown Court was told.
Judge Warwick McKinnon said it was "a vile and quite senseless killing of an entirely innocent woman".
Simon Denison, prosecuting, told the court: "Maxwell had been planning to stab a woman for seven days, it had to be a black Afro-Caribbean woman. He didn't know why he had done it, he just had to do it."
"He described the voices as taking over his thoughts and his body. They made him do things like cut his hair so he looked more like a gangster.
"Maxwell said in the months before the killing he was playing Grand Theft Auto to the exclusion of anything else.
"He had smoked cannabis the night before, he took a knife from the kitchen and went out to stab someone. After he stabbed Mrs Tulloch he ran home and told his mother what he had done.
"The psychiatric assessment is that he is a great risk to others and will be for many years."
Maxwell lived 500 yards away from Mrs Tulloch on the same housing estate in Kennington, South London. He attacked her within five minutes walk of her home.
The youngster started smoking cannabis and skunk as well as taking cocaine at 14. He had previously been given cautions for possessing cannabis and has two convictions for mugging and assault.
Maxwell said he started hearing voices after smoking the drug and was referred to a psychiatric team by his GP in June last year.
He was prescribed anti-psychotic drugs and his case was reviewed four times. It was due to be considered again the day after he attacked Mrs Tulloch.
Instead, Maxwell went to a police station with his uncle and solicitor and handed himself in. He told officers: "I am given medication for my head and eyes, I don't know why I have been told to take this medication. I have not taken it for two weeks.
"On September 4 I played Grand Theft Auto until late. When I got up I felt a bit unhappy and aggressive. "I went out of the house at about 10am."
"I have a knife with me. I didn't know why I had a knife, I saw a woman, I stabbed her with the knife, I stabbed her three times, there was a lot of blood. After I stabbed the woman I ran home."
Maxwell has since been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Yesterday he was detained indefinitely under the Mental Health Act after pleading guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
Paul Jenkins, chief executive of mental health charity Rethink, said: 'While there can be several triggers for mental illness, we know that if used by people under 18, cannabis doubles the risk of psychosis.
Professor John Henry, a clinical toxicologist, said: "People are beginning to realise that cannabis is not the puff and relax substance that people used to use."
Studies show there is an increased instance of schizophrenia in cannabis users, in some people as much as a ten-Marjorie Wallace, Chief Executive of mental health charity SANE, said: "This has all the hallmarks of similar stories where a paranoid schizophrenic has not taken medication but has used cannabis.
"Cannabis, especially skunk, can act as a trigger to psychotic relapse in which someone may lose touch with reality and become a serious risk to himself and others.
"We expect the inquiry into this case will reveal the same faultlines underlying many of the 55 homicides involving mental illness each year."
Mrs Tulloch, a receptionist, was married to Prince, 42, and had two adult daughters, Claudia and Andrea, from a previous marriage and a threeyearold granddaughter called Tianna.
Her sister Carol Smith said: "Someone has to take responsibility, how can he commit a crime like that and no one is responsible?
"There need to be regular check-ups for people like him."
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Quake3]
#6754588 - 04/06/07 02:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Floop]
#6754601 - 04/06/07 02:54 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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"Its that damn skunk weed!"
"Its those damn video games."
Why can't the cause be the schizophrenic kid who clearly needed some help?
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Floop]
#6754602 - 04/06/07 02:54 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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The comments to that article are hilarious. I love how there is so much anti-Cannabis propaganda now that it has been moved down to Class C in the UK. It will never go back up to Class A.
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Edited by Quake3 (04/06/07 03:02 PM)
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Quake3]
#6754624 - 04/06/07 02:58 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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schizophrenic people cant do drugs they need to be supervised instead. blame it on his parents
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: diableria]
#6754642 - 04/06/07 03:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I usually just beat off after I smoke da skunk.
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: AroundtheSon]
#6754724 - 04/06/07 03:30 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I replied to that article, but I doubt my comment will make it through.
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You fascist bastards are completely oblivious to the blatant propaganda spread by your right wing conservative BIASED new sources.
Read the article:
"He had smoked cannabis the night before"
He wasn't even high when he killed the person. How can that connection be made? He probably had a few beers as well, that same night - yet that is unmentioned.
You conservative aristocrats are so pretentious that you believe your own pernicious fallacies.
This article is complete and utter sensationalism. It makes me sick that people can actually agree with this sort of hyperbole.
No doubt you people ignore the fact that alcohol is one of Britain's largest avoidable killers. People are killed all the time as a direct result of alcohol use, yet you don't even blink an eyelid.
Alcohol has been <b>SCIENTIFICALLY</b>; proven to be more dangerous than a number of so called <b>ILLICIT</b> drugs.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2007/03/23/nalcohol123.xml
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Cepheus]
#6754756 - 04/06/07 03:39 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Didn't read all of it, but I can't help but wonder if this article came from a tabloid type newspaper.
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Quake3]
#6754766 - 04/06/07 03:42 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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why does the media in the UK call all good weed "skunk"
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Quake3]
#6754841 - 04/06/07 04:05 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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p r o p a g a n d a
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: wowitch17]
#6754845 - 04/06/07 04:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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This is why I don't read newspapers and for those who asked, yes the Daily Mail is a rag, a filthy tabloid piece of shit that had I run dry of toilet paper I would not even wipe with it. This whole story is designed to sell papers to the idiots who actually believe this shit, fucking red tops.
Yeah, it's the weed that made him kill, not the schizophrenia or the video games or the lack of parenting or not taking his medication...
And as for:
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Her sister Carol Smith said: "Someone has to take responsibility, how can he commit a crime like that and no one is responsible?
No-one? He's fucking responsible!!
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 Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Quake3]
#6754944 - 04/06/07 04:40 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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The youngster started smoking cannabis and skunk as well as taking cocaine at 14
Hmmm, funny thing about this article is, that everyone is talking about Cannabis and Video games,
when the boy was prolly snorting fat lines,
(of shitty chemicals) that someone baptized as coke.
Cocaine tho, is famous for causing schizophrenic tendencies in fully addicted snorters. Even healthy individuals can be driven towards schizophrenia..
And who told them that he was using cannabis the night before??? The schizo? His parents? And why the fuck do they believe a schizophrenic?
Total nonsense...
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Edited by Sterile (04/06/07 04:41 PM)
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Sterile]
#6755181 - 04/06/07 05:54 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I'm wondering why no one has commented on the fact that he admittedly had not taken his psychiatric medication for two weeks. I mean, seriously, isn't it obvious why he had a psychotic break? HE WASN'T TAKING HIS MEDICATION. It's not because of the pot and video games, it's because he's crazy.
God that makes me angry.
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Lily_Morgan]
#6755230 - 04/06/07 06:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Great just what we needed another asshole they can use as ammo against weed AND violent video games...
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: randy420rhoads]
#6755365 - 04/06/07 07:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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It's the skunk cannabis from that Doobie Howser fella. Gee golly gotta watch out for that skunk cannabis.
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Nephlyte]
#6755404 - 04/06/07 07:19 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Nephlyte said:
"Its that damn skunk weed!"
"Its those damn video games."
Why can't the cause be the schizophrenic kid who clearly needed some help?
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: delta9]
#6755576 - 04/06/07 08:41 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
delta9 said:
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Nephlyte said:
"Its that damn skunk weed!"
"Its those damn video games."
Why can't the cause be the schizophrenic kid who clearly needed some help?
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: Legend9123]
#6755872 - 04/06/07 10:09 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: xk3m_indica]
#6755914 - 04/06/07 10:19 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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watch out for that skunk weed... its a killer 
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Re: UK: Boy on skunk cannabis butchered a grandmother [Re: AroundtheSon]
#6756412 - 04/07/07 12:57 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
AroundtheSon said:
I usually just beat off after I smoke da skunk.
Do the voices tell you to?
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