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 hjalmar
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 LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please 
#6750133 - 04/05/07 12:45 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was taking a stroll in the pasturelands yesterday, when I found this:
The texture of the stem felt identical to a liberty cap. From a distance that was what I thought I spotted. But as you see there's no nipple and the texture of the cap seems a bit different too? The color of the print seems right to me though.
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Subbedhunter420
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 Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: hjalmar]
#6750279 - 04/05/07 01:28 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not a liberty cap. semilanceata are quite different. It looks to me you have a black spore print which in my indication says its Coprinus Micaeus. or it might be a panaeolus of some kind.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#6750290 - 04/05/07 01:31 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like a little Stropharia to me.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: georgeM]
#6750308 - 04/05/07 01:36 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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semiglobata? maybe?
i didnt even think of that.
But the distinctly white stem has me guessing.
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Edited by Subbedhunter420 (04/05/07 01:37 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: hjalmar]
#6750398 - 04/05/07 02:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It looks like Panaeolus antillarum.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#6750500 - 04/05/07 02:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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The spore print and general appearance would suggest Panaeolus or Psathyrella. Try breaking the stem, does it break or snap very easily? Or is it more bendable?
edit: sorry, meant to reply to original poster.
Edited by xmush (04/05/07 02:33 PM)
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coon
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: hjalmar]
#6750513 - 04/05/07 02:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'll put a dollar on paneaolous.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: coon]
#6750544 - 04/05/07 02:42 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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id have to agree with coon on this one. pan,but not active. i find alot of those in my feild.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: nobhdy]
#6750635 - 04/05/07 03:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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panaeolous semiovatus?c'mon I gots to know.post to anybody who knows.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: coon]
#6750756 - 04/05/07 03:46 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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it is most likely a Paneaolina foenesecii or and inactive Panneaolus.
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snoot
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: psiclops]
#6750781 - 04/05/07 03:52 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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100% lbm is all I can say.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: snoot]
#6750855 - 04/05/07 04:22 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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The print looks black not brown which takes Panaeolina out of the running.
I'm going to disclude Coprinellus and Stropharia as well.
As Xmush was asking- is the stem very very delicate, that it practically falls apart if you handle it?
This would suggest Psathyrella.
Or is it a bit more sturdy- you can pull it up in one piece without the stem totally splintering, and the stem bends slightly before breaking?
And this indicates Panaeolus.
It's a hard call without knowing how brittle it is.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: CureCat]
#6751093 - 04/05/07 05:23 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is a Panaeolus and I would like to point out one thing on Id of the mushroom.
Panaeolina it is not, as Curecat said but another reason to differentiate it from Panaeolus is that Panaeolina never grows in manure heaps or dung. Only manured lawns.
As for P. semiovatus. They have gigantic caps. It looks like it is just a small Panaeolus shroom in manure.
mj
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: hjalmar]
#6751143 - 04/05/07 05:38 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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foenesecii
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: wowitch17]
#6751525 - 04/05/07 07:18 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wowitch17,
Panaeolina foenisecii is known continentally as the "hay mowers" mushroom.
It does not appear in any pastures at all. It appears in lawns. So the image is not Panaeolina foenisecii.
mj
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coon
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: mjshroomer]
#6752063 - 04/05/07 10:05 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah,who owes me a dollar?:D
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: coon]
#6753205 - 04/06/07 08:12 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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i called it first!
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coon
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#6753376 - 04/06/07 10:04 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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so you did.so you did.
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: mjshroomer]
#6754755 - 04/06/07 05:39 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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MJ Said:
"Panaeolina foenisecii is known continentally as the "hay mowers" mushroom.
It does not appear in any pastures at all. It appears in lawns. So the image is not Panaeolina foenisecii."
CureCat said:
"The print looks black not brown which takes Panaeolina out of the running."
MJ, who said it came from a manure heap or rotting hay? I've seen Paneaolina foen. in alot of fields.
Curecat, so since the spore print looks black in the digital image, it must be black? It actually looks brown from my point of view, but please don't rule out Paneaolus on that suggestion alone.
-psiclops
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Re: LBM in pastureland, possibly psilocybe? or psathyrella? ID please [Re: psiclops]
#6754790 - 04/06/07 05:48 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yo Psiclops, John was saying that foes only grow on fertilized lawns, not pastures.
I am a little bit skeptical, because I am fairly certain I have found foes growing from lawns which are not maintained, plus the fact that mushrooms tend to be able to grow sparsely outside of their ideal habitat. But I cannot say with certainty, that I have found them growing outside of fertilized lawns.
No, I didn't say it must be black, i said it looks black, and hjalmar has not disconfirmed this. So, I will assume that likely, the colours are not so far off, and that the spores are in fact black.
I have not and will not rule out Panaeolus until hjalmar confirms they are brown and not black.
For hjalmar:
*photo courtesy of Gumby*
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