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It's not a question of money. It takes time to develop the technology to put something that big into space. All the money in the world can't change that.

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It doesn't matter how many cooks you have in the kitchen.

One cook or a thousand: soup still takes an hour.

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As they counted down the seconds to detonation at the Trinity test site even many of the brilliant physicists who worked on the weapon feared it would cause a chain reaction that could destroy the entire planet.

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Sorry, but this in urban legend material. I have read many, many interviews that were done with the scientists before the test. The main concern was that 'the gadget' wouldn't work. They weren't really sure how big it would be if it did work, but they weren't worried about destroying the planet or catching the atmosphere on fire or any of the other Hollywood moments that the media has glorified over the years.

To an earlier post, it is "had-ron" not "hard-on"

To a later post... Soup? I though the saying was something like "nine woman can't make a baby in one month".

> yet actually does create a "rogue" black hole that ends up devouring the planet. Interesting indeed.

Hmmm... no sign of alien life, but a whole lot of black holes around in the universe... kinda makes one wonder...

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Seuss said:
To a later post... Soup? I though the saying was something like "nine woman can't make a baby in one month".

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> yet actually does create a "rogue" black hole that ends up devouring the planet. Interesting indeed.

Hmmm... no sign of alien life, but a whole lot of black holes around in the universe... kinda makes one wonder...

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Edward Teller (..) stunned his colleagues by suggesting that the colossal temperatures generated might ignite the Earth's atmosphere.

While some of his colleagues immediately dismissed the threat as nonsense, J. Robert Oppenheimer, director of the Manhattan Project, set up to build the atom bomb, took it seriously enough to demand a study.

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The report confirmed what the sceptics had insisted all along: the nuclear fireball cools down too far quickly to trigger a self-sustaining fire in the atmosphere.

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Wait, wait, wait: I didn't read that report but the way it is described makes it sound that it would be very unlikely and not impossible that the Trinity test would destroy the world.

And thats how it should be because science deals with approximations of the truth - because they do not have the truth. All that science has is an overwhelming conviction that something is like they think it is. They share this trait with other delusional people, except they made their delusion accessible to others, and it conquered the world just like Christianity did before it.

There still is the very real possibility that the Atomic Bomb worked not because of the dance of uranions and neutrons, but because of the hopes, dreams and convictions the scientists poured into a virtually unknown material, and all the trust and esteem so many people held for these scientists. A flaw of humanity is that we often see what we want to see, but then again it might actually be so that what we want to see makes it happen. Perhaps things do not exist before they are discovered. The observer changes the experiment, right? Perhaps life is but a dream and the Big Bang is an explosion of consciousness in the mind of the Prime Mover.

If this is a deeper layer of reality, then science as it is practiced today is almost entirely beside the point, and would be considered the follies of a puppydog going round and around trying to catch its own tail.

Perhaps the earth was created 5.000 years ago and are fossils Gods way of catering to the alternative beliefs of people digging in the soil


So: science doesn't really know anything. It just assumes in degrees of conviction. But while doing this it looks for ever more extreme experiments that imply evermore severe risks if the unthinkable happens.

And on the frontiers of physics, completely unexpected random shit happens all the time. Stuff that utterly defies and thrashcans theories that just had to be true.


Enter John Cleese as the Inspector for Planetary Safety and Eric Idle as the Hadron Collider Press Spokesman.

John Cleese -..well obviously you must know something about it. What are the effects of gravity on a supertiny black hole?
Eric Idle -No one knows sir. Perhaps with Hadron we might observe the very first ever black hole in the history of physics.
John Cleese -Wot? You mean you haven't seen them before?
Eric Idle -Oh no sir. Only indirectly from many lightyears away. They gobble up whole solar systems you know. If they exist. We're trying to find out if they do.
John Cleese -In South Porridge? Wouldn't Pluto be more suitable?
Eric Idle (laughs)-We can't go there sir. Too far away.
John Cleese -Pluto is too far away? What if this thing blows up or sucks in or whatever it is they do?
Eric Idle -Ah but they won't sir. We are very sure they won't. They'll only last a fraction of a split second really.
John Cleese -yes thats the other point. (gets papers) Here you say that such a black hole lasts zero dot.. twenty zeros.. one seconds.
Eric Idle -Thats true sir. We think.
John Cleese -But here it says bigger black holes will exist for one.. then a hundred zeros.. years. Is that correct.
Eric Idle -Ah those are the big ones, the ones that already sucked up portions of galaxies. Yes they do sir. We're confident.
John Cleese -But you never actually saw one ever did you? Big or small?
Eric Idle -Umm no sir, not directly, that's why we're going to make some in South Porridge. To see sir.
John Cleese -I count 130 orders of magnitude in your estimations how long black holes will last. Are you sure this is safe?
Eric Idle -Safest there is sir. You wouldn't feel it if it did go wrong anyways sir: over in a zap really.
John Cleese -Excuse me, doesn't time dilate when you approach a black hole according to theory?
Eric Idle -Yes sir, the most amazing thing ever. Warps the laws of the universe completely. It's in a bubble of its own really.
John Cleese -won't that influence your prognosis as to how long.. what are you doing?
Eric Idle -Getting ready to flip the switch sir. We go online in a minute now.
John Cleese -But these are relevant questions!
Eric Idle -We'll have the answers in a minute sir.
John Cleese -Wot!
Eric Idle *flips the switch*
*Gods comes sailing in, surfing a temporal wave* -AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT


The real Monty Python would succeed in actually making this funny

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EvilEwok said:
Do any of you hard core physics dudes have any idea how much (perceived?)time it would take for one of these tiny black holes to consume earth?

I would think it would be damn fast like seconds or less, but I'm just speculating and probably wrong. I know things get crazy when black holes are involved but, I'm not worried about some little bitch black hole fucking things up.

YOU HEAR THAT BLACK HOLE!? BRING IT ON!

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