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 Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems 
#6691303 - 03/20/07 11:34 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://new.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/News/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&category=News&tBrand=enonline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED20%20Mar%202007%2009%3A28%3A40%3A393
Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems
SARAH HALL
sarah.hall2@archant.co.uk
An increasing number of young people are suffering severe mental health problems as a result of smoking cannabis, new figures have revealed.
Statistics from the NHS National Treatment Agency show the number of young people in treatment almost doubled from 2005 to 2006.
In Norfolk, mental health agencies are seeing increasing numbers of people who have developed some form of mental illness through use of cannabis or who have exacerbated an existing problem by self-medicating with the drug.
Norwich Mind said people were taking the drug without considering the consequences and that if people were predisposed to a mental health problem, smoking cannabis would worsen their existing problems.
Sandra Flannigan, from the charity, said: “We are seeing more cases of people having mental health problems with a strong link to smoking cannabis.
“Its long-term use leads to paranoia, personality disorders and psychosis, but unfortunately it is part of young people's culture today.”
Mrs Flannigan said a lot of schizophrenics smoked cannabis to try to alleviate some of their symptoms.
She said more than 70pc of people she refers for rehabilitation have some history of smoking cannabis.
“I don't want to paint a picture that suggests all young people with mental health problems have a link with cannabis,” she said.
“But it is certainly a contributing factor. People are making themselves unwell but youngsters are not listening to what we are saying. It is a really big issue we are dealing with.”
Anne Louise Schofield, young people's drug commissioning officer, at DAAT, Drug and Alcohol Action Team for Norwich, said:
“We know that the two main substances people under the age of 19 most misuse are alcohol and cannabis.
“Some of the people who smoke cannabis might not necessarily need treatment, but quite often they do need some one to talk to.”
Of the cases in which young people required treatment over the last 12 months, 36pc were due to cannabis, with 31pc because of alcohol, 16pc for heroin and 5pc for amphetamines.
About 100 more people sought help from DAAT in 2005/06 than the year before, with 2,325 users getting help compared with 2,201 the previous year.
Last year, heroin was the drug most misused, with 57pc treated for heroin misuse compared with 12pc for problems with cannabis.
Ms Schofield continued: “A rise in people seeking treatment could be attributed to a number of factors, including better awareness of the services available to young people in Norfolk or better identification of young people's drug and/or related needs, resulting in subsequent referrals.”
A decade ago there was a 16,000-strong pro-cannabis march in London, and this was credited with forcing the Government to downgrade the legal status of cannabis to class C.
New research to be published in this week's Lancet will show how cannabis is more dangerous than LSD and ecstasy.
The results come after experts analysed 20 substances for addictiveness, social harm and physical damage.
Visit www.nordat.org.uk for more information about the services provided.
Has caused you or your family problems? Call Sarah Hall on 01603 772426 or email sarah.hall2@archant.co.uk
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 Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: b0red5tiff]
#6691310 - 03/20/07 11:35 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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How many of these adolescents enrolled willingly? And how many were pressured by parents?
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b0red5tiff
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#6691330 - 03/20/07 11:45 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey lay off the parents - they're just good old tobacco addicts.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#6691421 - 03/20/07 12:08 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
How many of these adolescents enrolled willingly? And how many were pressured by parents?
And how many more still were ordered into treatment by a magistrate after being caught?
Thats what really gets me. A lot of kids these days going for "cannabis treatment" here in the states do so because they are given a choice by the judge: An addiction treatment program or jail/probie. Then we see articles like this in the news saying "SEE! SEE! THEY ARE ADDICTED!" Give me a fucking break 
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: DNKYD]
#6691449 - 03/20/07 12:16 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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An arguement for them would be, that there has been an increase in youngsters being ordered to go. They would insinuate that there was an increase in youngsters getting in trouble in the first place. Which may or may not be true. Each could be influenced by new policy and/or sentencing trends.
The truth is that there is no true indicator that would show the correct % of young users of any drug.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: DNKYD]
#6691472 - 03/20/07 12:22 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I do wonder about articles like this.
I went to see a doctor recently about headaches and tiredness; she diagnosed me as "psychotic due to cannabis use" after I voluntarily told her that I have used cannabis in the past. Clearly she didn't know what she was talking about, but I'd put money on it that I still get added to these "Seeking help for Cannabis-related problems" statistics.
Having said that, I don't for one moment believe that cannabis is a totally safe drug - hence why I stopped using it six months ago. I'd much rather take my chances with mushrooms than cannabis.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: TurricaN]
#6691499 - 03/20/07 12:31 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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They say you should always tell your doctor of any drugs you are taking. I suppose, so they can make sure they don't prescribe anything that would have a reaction to it. Cannabis doesn't apply here.
I never tell them shit. I'm more protective of my medical history than I am of my credit history.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: Cowgold]
#6691621 - 03/20/07 01:08 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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FUCK YOU SARAH HALL
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: Cowgold]
#6691622 - 03/20/07 01:09 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah seriously, I do wish I hadn't mentioned cannabis to my doctor. Ever since I did that, everything I mention, regardless of how minor or trivial is "due to cannabis effects / psychosis" and "therefore nothing can be done about it" even when I know it has nothing to do with cannabis and know better from research I've done myself.
I actually secretly recorded the meetings with my doctor and am considering using it as evidence in court against her (I'm sure that there must be an offence related to knowingly giving patients bullshit information).
Needless to say, I'll be seeing a better doctor in the future.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: Hix]
#6691642 - 03/20/07 01:15 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hix said:
FUCK YOU SARAH HALL
*FUCK YOU, SARAH HALL!
I'm not Sarah.  :reply to
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: Cowgold]
#6691671 - 03/20/07 01:24 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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“I don't want to paint a picture that suggests all young people with mental health problems have a link with cannabis,” she said.
No, she just wants to paint a picture that suggests all young people that have a link with cannabis have mental health problems.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: TurricaN]
#6692275 - 03/20/07 04:32 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
TurricaN said:
Yeah seriously, I do wish I hadn't mentioned cannabis to my doctor. Ever since I did that, everything I mention, regardless of how minor or trivial is "due to cannabis effects / psychosis" and "therefore nothing can be done about it" even when I know it has nothing to do with cannabis and know better from research I've done myself.
I actually secretly recorded the meetings with my doctor and am considering using it as evidence in court against her (I'm sure that there must be an offence related to knowingly giving patients bullshit information).
Needless to say, I'll be seeing a better doctor in the future.
you should tell her you lied about using cannabis. if she doesn't believe you just get a new doctor and get it taken off. lie and say you never said it  then threaten to sue her. i'm sure it will get fixed hehehe.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: b0red5tiff]
#6693246 - 03/20/07 08:42 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems
I bet a lot of these kids are going inhope to find better hook ups. I knew a few kids from school that did that. I think the majority of them now make livings by operating rolling methlabs. They's sum purty fart smellers.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: HSIHd]
#6694164 - 03/21/07 01:07 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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my mental problems were excacerbated by cannabis and mushrooms in tandem with eachother
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: b0red5tiff]
#6695436 - 03/21/07 12:27 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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"New research to be published in this week's Lancet will show how cannabis is more dangerous than LSD and ecstasy."
Does anyone know where this research can be found on the internet? I wanted to know what bullshit they made up this time.
Kids are just being pressured into treatment by either judge or parents; everyone knows it.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: archetype]
#6695775 - 03/21/07 02:20 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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archetype said:
"New research to be published in this week's Lancet will show how cannabis is more dangerous than LSD and ecstasy."
Does anyone know where this research can be found on the internet? I wanted to know what bullshit they made up this time.
Why is it so difficult to believe that cannabis is more dangerous than LSD?
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: TurricaN]
#6702739 - 03/23/07 10:15 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wasn't talking so much about LSD as ecstacy. There's no way that pure cannabis is more dangerous than a drug adulterated with cocaine and other drugs.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: archetype]
#6702904 - 03/23/07 11:16 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wasn't talking so much about LSD as ecstacy. There's no way that pure cannabis is more dangerous than a drug adulterated with cocaine and other drugs.
The particular report, however, took into account 9 separate parameters in evaluating the "harmfulness" of a drug. The ranking was not made purely on physical harm.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: badchad]
#6704438 - 03/23/07 07:57 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like how they mention that it is more harmful than LSD, but fail to mention that the same report ruled it less harmful than fucking tobacco.
Good call, you stupid lying whore.
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Re: Record number of youngsters seek help for cannabis problems [Re: archetype]
#6705233 - 03/24/07 01:08 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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archetype said:
I wasn't talking so much about LSD as ecstacy. There's no way that pure cannabis is more dangerous than a drug adulterated with cocaine and other drugs.
But, Cocaine isn't Ecstasy... :p
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