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 Mikeyyork
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uarewotueat said:
 ,, gutted..
What an anti-climax..
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 TurntableJunky
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 Re: YET ANOTHER... [Re: Mikeyyork]
#7421350 - 09/17/07 08:44 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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This should be stickied here and in the marketplace.
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uarewotueat
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sublimistri said:
Powder seeds suck 
Did any of your uncrushed brigdesiis germinate?
nah, there were no whole seeds left...
wot pissed me off most was when the sender said he would replace them, but never did...
and then he tried to rip me off later by saying that he never recieved the seeds i sent to him, after he had already confirmed that he recieved them originally...
so i invited him to leave me a bad trade rating, which he declined...
not sure how we are gonna get around the new "radiation machine" though 
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sublimistri
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Lots of foil, and/or padded envelopes. he told me padded envelopes never go into the machine. Also Im pretty sure he said foil dont go through it either, it gets detected or somethin.
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deformedreality
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well there is two machines.. one that crushes and one that shoots radiation through everything..
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sublimistri
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He made the two sound like one to me, like they get ran through get crushed,and then continue and get radiated.
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deformedreality
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the government isnt that efficient lol.
basically for now on.. everyone needs to send seeds in a padded envelope.
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Walter1496211
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I just got some seeds from holland they were in a really well thought out package using a type of cardboard where the seeds were pushed in between the spaces and they used sticks to keep it strait it works really well
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uarewotueat
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hehehe... doesnt seem like a very effective way to stop terrorism to me either...
just send your anthrax in a padded envelope mr binladen
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basically for now on.. everyone needs to send seeds in a padded envelope.
its beyond my comprehension as to why anyone would send out seeds without protection anyway 
ive sent dozens of seed packs to the US and non have been crushed thus far, padded envelopes dont cost shit if u reuse them from trade to trade 
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TurntableJunky
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Heres a good method I found on the shroomery.
Though this post will deal specifically with Cannabis seeds for vendor/enthusiast. In an age of war on terror and the post getting tougher, envelopes are the way to go if payload can fit and survive transit. So before I start, there's a couple of things that need to be stated to give some perspective.
A.) 50 Cannabis seeds weighs approx 1 gram
The ^above is important to customs parcel management and does play in envelopes as well. Payload is payload. Envelopes of course do not have customs declaration which is the focus of this document. None the less, strict rules apply.
Things you will need.
a.) scissors or a sharp knife with cutting board.
b.) ruler
c.) skewer stick
d.) corrugated plastic sheet
e.) A4 paper
f.) cello tape
g.) an envelope
h.) a set of scales
1.) Like the point ^above of A.), there's a second issue at stake. That's the "average length of Cannabis seeds". The seeds used in this example are typical sized Cannabis seeds. Jack Flash x Red Devil. The general rule of thumb is 5mm long, as can be seen in the photo. True, there's 25 Cannabis seeds in a neat line and they take up 11cm in length, but 5mm should be the expected norm to work on. This point of length will be important to consider and I will discuss that shortly.
2.) Payload is of issue in an airmail envelope and the same rules apply too to a domestic envelope. In this example, this is the regular airmail envelope. Chosen because it is inexpensive, commonly used in the post so discreet and available from all Aussie post offices. The weight to consider is a standard A4 sheet of paper, the airmail envelope and of course, the plastic corrugation. All up, a modest 20 grams. Total finished envelope is to weigh no more than 50 grams and must not exceed 5mm width. This is why the corrugated plastic sheet is so handy, it's only 3mm thick. Add the A4 paper that ends up 3 layers in folds with the envelope and it sits comfortably within the 5mm specification.
IMPORTANT: Envelope must not exceed 5mm thick and/or over 50 grams weight.
3.) The size of the corrugated plastic sheet is to be 10cm x 21cm. That will fit inside the envelope comfortably and will allow a neat A4 sheet to fold around it. Cut it to that size.
4.) The size of the corrugated sheet can be seen smaller than the envelope. Make sure it is cut 10cm x 21cm.
5.) Now to fill it with Cannabis seeds. You will need a wooden skewer and some patience. Put one seed in at a time and push to far end. Do not feed a bunch of seeds in or they will lock and snag inside the cell channel.
Now here's some interesting crunch outs.
A 10cm x 21cm sheet of corrugation plastic has 65 cell walls if cut with cell wall lines in width and not length.
Thus, 65 x 10cm at one Cannabis seed per 5mm length, means a single sheet as seen in this document can carry 1300 Cannabis seeds. Nifty eh. No customs and that's 1300 seeds to anywhere in the world.
But play it safe and factor in the "point A.)". Yes, 1300 Cannabis seeds will weigh approx 26 grams.
Now add 26 to the 20 grams that be the airmail envelope, the corrugated plastic and the A4 sheet and it's 46grams and that's within specification of the 50grams maximum allowed and of course, it's all within specification of the 5mm thick envelope finished product. But make sure you weigh it up before you post. The figures I've given are only guides. You can not afford errors.
6.) Note: For the purpose of this document, I've only demonstrated a single cell line of fill.
To ensure that payload (Cannabis seeds) do not slip from the corrugated plastic sheet in transit, use light weight cello tape or packaging tape on each end of the cell line that houses the Cannabis seeds. Naturally, factor in the weight of the tape too. So keep adding up in weights of each unit of the envelope contents in running tally with a set of scales at the ready.
7.) Now fold your A4 sheet over the corrugated plastic sheet. Use a regular business style folding to do this.
8.) Final product is complete. Neat and ordered. It is discreet.
9.) Note. For the sake of this document and for easy display I used white corrugated plastic sheet. But, it is preferable to use black corrugated sheet because the seeds can be seen if the finished envelope is held up to the light.
10.) In photograph "9", that's hard to see, but with the photograph taken without the flash, then the celing halogen light clearly demonstrates how ineffective white corrugated plastic sheet is.
11.) If you only have white sheet then fold in a piece of dark paper out of an old glossy computer games magazine. This will stop silhouette. Weighs the same as a standard A4 paper which is 5grams.
Final notes:
If also wondering "how strong is this, can it stop the Cannabis seeds or for that matter any small seed from being crushed?".
I have stood on it with one foot (total body weight to it) with a blundstone boot on and no seeds cracked. It will hold up against the general run of the mill postal transit because the plastic corrugation does not compress. However, like cardboard,it is flexible so it does not feel strange in an envelope to the feel of your hands.
That's it.
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uarewotueat
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the cardboard method is good for larger seeds (mj for example)
bic pens and CD cases are also good...
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deformedreality
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i sent seeds to sublimistri in an envelope with a double tick layer of cardboard protection.. the fact that it was in a normal envelope caused it to get smashed then radiated.
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uarewotueat
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lol i should have bumped this thread more often then...
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...USE BUBBLEWRAP/PADDING WHEN SENDING ETHNO SEED IN THE MAIL THREAD...
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sublimistri
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uarewotueat said:
...USE BUBBLEWRAP/PADDING WHEN SENDING ETHNO SEED IN THE MAIL THREAD...
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royer9864
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uarewotueat said:
lol i should have bumped this thread more often then...
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uarewotueat said:
...USE BUBBLEWRAP/PADDING WHEN SENDING ETHNO SEED IN THE MAIL THREAD...
yep cardboard is not good for smaller seeds,
quote]uarewotueat said:
...USE BUBBLEWRAP/PADDING WHEN SENDING ETHNO SEED IN THE MAIL THREAD...
i am going to sticky this for a few days
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Re: YET ANOTHER... [Re: royer9864]
#7423694 - 09/18/07 01:06 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Good thinking
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uarewotueat
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Re: YET ANOTHER... [Re: Nalim]
#7423764 - 09/18/07 01:23 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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well if its gonna be stickied, i think the title should be made a bit more topic specific...
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kadakuda
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if padded envelopes are put through the rollers 9some are thinner) they will still be crushed. THICK bubble envelopes would be best....if ANYTHING goes through those fucking rollers its crushed. i ran out of my regular envelopes so i had to buy some at the local store which are much thinner. seeds got tehre like a dust and all the air bubbles were popped....anyway, thicker=better.
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TurntableJunky
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Re: YET ANOTHER... [Re: kadakuda]
#7430808 - 09/20/07 01:22 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Do letters have to be a certain thickness or can you just wrap a seed packet in bubble wrap?
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kadakuda
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its done by thickness and if there is something weird inside.
they have a little plate with various sized slots in it. if they can pull it through then it gets put in the "letter" type category.
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