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 Time to plant poppies in North East US? 
#6624976 - 03/01/07 06:19 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is it time to plant poppy seeds in the north east US?
Anyone have any recommendations for good guerilla spots for poppies? I've got some seeds and I was hoping to do several guerilla plots. I also want to plant some on my porch.
Am I better off just starting the seeds off where they will be flowering, or should I start with peat pots/pellets, or some other seed starting technique?
Of course these are the non active oriental poppies that I'm going to be growing.
Please don't refer me to the stickied poppy thread, I know its there, I've gone over a lot of it. These questions weren't asked in the posts I saw.
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they are completely legal, why guerilla spots?
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Re: Time to plant poppies in North East US? [Re: distgre1]
#6625093 - 03/01/07 06:45 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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distgre1 said:
they are completely legal, why guerilla spots?
The opium poppy, Papaver somniferum is NOT legal in USA.
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Re: Time to plant poppies in North East US? [Re: agar]
#6625125 - 03/01/07 06:56 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry, i forgot everything is legal in canada
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Re: Time to plant poppies in North East US? [Re: distgre1]
#6625792 - 03/01/07 09:47 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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well im in the north of the uk and my poppy seeds have germinated already... u can sow the seeds in autumn or spring it dosent matter... but, think about how they set seed in their natural environment... obviously in that situation the seed is dispersed in autumn... so...
it is often said that poppy seed requires cold temps before germination will occur, although that isnt strictly true i guess...
i sow my seed in trays and put it out in the cold for a month or so in the early spring... read up on "stratification"
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Re: Time to plant poppies in North East US? [Re: agar]
#6627392 - 03/02/07 10:38 AM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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agar said:
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distgre1 said:
they are completely legal, why guerilla spots?
The opium poppy, Papaver somniferum is NOT legal in USA.
Hmm, i think it's illegal to grow them specifically for their sap, but isn't it legal to grow them for decoration purposes? You can buy dried poppy pods legally.
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Re: Time to plant poppies in North East US? [Re: coda]
#6631807 - 03/03/07 05:48 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Federal Controlled Substances Act of 1970. The Act lists as a Schedule II Controlled Substance opium and its derivatives and all parts of the P. somniferum plant except the seed.
EXAMPLES:
SAN FRANCISCO -- Federal drug agents have arrested a Sacramento man for allegedly selling opium poppy pods on eBay, where he described the morphine-laden pods and seeds as a decoration.
Krsna Lev-Twombly, 30, was arrested at his home Thursday by Drug Enforcement Administration agents, who say they bought hundreds of the illegal pods from him last year.
Lev-Twombly appeared in a federal court in Sacramento and was released on a $50,000 property bond, the U.S. Attorney's office announced Friday. Lev-Twombly is scheduled to appear in a San Jose federal courtroom Feb. 6.
Lev-Twombly declined to comment on the case when reached at his home by The Associated Press.
Prosecutors allege that Lev-Twombly advertised and sold the dried Papaver Somniferum poppy pods on eBay last year.
Undercover DEA agents bought pods from Lev-Twombly twice, each time receiving a package of poppies, complete with a receipt, the U.S. Attorney's Office said. Each pod is about the size of a golf ball, and is attached to a two-foot-high stalk.
Richard Meyer, a spokesman for the DEA, said only three of 300 species of poppy are illegal, but Lev-Twombly was selling one of the prohibited kinds.
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19,000 OPIUM POPPY PLANTS SEIZED IN SAN MARTIN, CALIFORNIA
On July 22, 2004 the DEA San Jose Resident Office and the Santa Clara County Sheriff’s Office seized and destroyed approximately 19,000 opium poppy plants growing near San Martin. The poppy plants were growing among other flowers on 11 acres close to U.S. Highway 101. A local florist rented the land to grow a variety of flowers, including the poppies, for his business. The florist allegedly did not know that growing opium poppies was illegal, and sold them from his flower shop in bouquets of 7 to 10 flowers. Law enforcement officials found no evidence that the poppies were being grown for illicit purposes, as there were no attempts to conceal the plants as well as no evidence that the plants had been scored. The investigation revealed that other florists in the area - also allegedly unaware that growing opium poppies was illegal - have been growing opium poppies as well. As a result of this incident, a local florists’ association was planning to send information to area florists advising them that growing opium poppies is illegal.
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Additional Information: The DEA Western Laboratory (San Francisco, California) assisted law enforcement officers from the DEA San Jose RO, the DEA San Francisco Division, and the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office, in the seizure of the opium poppy plantation in San Martin, California. The plantation was reported by an individual who had served in the military in Afghanistan, and recognized the plants as being the same type of poppies that he observed during his service there. The plants were found at various stages of development and growing in five separate plots of land, interspersed among other fields of ornamental plants and flowers (see Photo 7). All plants were uprooted and destroyed except for a small sample that was submitted to the laboratory for evidentiary purposes. Analysis by TLC and GC/MS confirmed morphine and codeine (quantitation not reported).
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Re: Time to plant poppies in North East US? [Re: agar]
#6631875 - 03/03/07 06:21 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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I might add:
If you are going to grow some.
(in my opinion)
It is best to do it in plain sight.
Along with some non-active poppies.
As well as a few rows of other flowers.
Reason being, that looks natural & they don't look out of place.
If you attempt to conceal them & they are the only thing.
You are growing.
That does look out of place.
and, will draw curiosity.
Moreover, if grown with some non-active poppies.
And, other assorted flowers.
You simply have a flower garden.
Not to mention.
You have a decent chance of beating any prosecution.
Unless caught with SCORED PODS.
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Re: Time to plant poppies in North East US? [Re: agar]
#6631886 - 03/03/07 06:26 PM (6 years, 3 months ago) |
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Like I said, these are orientalis. Is anyone going to answer my question, please?
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well im in the north of the uk and my poppy seeds have germinated already... u can sow the seeds in autumn or spring it dosent matter... but, think about how they set seed in their natural environment... obviously in that situation the seed is dispersed in autumn... so...
it is often said that poppy seed requires cold temps before germination will occur, although that isnt strictly true i guess...
i sow my seed in trays and put it out in the cold for a month or so in the early spring... read up on "stratification"
NE US: same conditions as in the UK..... So it seems your question already is answered..
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Ehh, AFOAF has bought dried Papaver Somniferum PODS and STEMS off of easy auction sites plenty in the past in the U.S.
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Outdoors;
You can sow as soon as the last hard frost/freeze, is past.
You will have to be the judge of when that is.
They germinate best in cold, to cool weather.
If you blunder & a hard frost/freeze is forecast.
You can cover the pots or row with plastic.
To protect them from a hard freeze.
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Unless your out there slicing & harvesting from the pods you shouldnt have any trouble.
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