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 dobie
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 Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: blissedout]
#6715514 - 03/27/07 02:51 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Good beer is a godsend man I swear
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blissedout
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: dobie]
#6715535 - 03/27/07 03:00 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I am going to have to agree 100%.
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 badreligion2good
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: blissedout]
#6717406 - 03/27/07 06:50 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I smoke too much pot. I have the same habit of deciding I'm going to quit, but not making it further than 72 hours. Its expensive and does not bring me the same pleasure it used to. I used to be somewhat hyper active before I started smoking, smoking chilled me out and made me less fidgety. Now when I don't smoke I feel like I'm cracked out or something. And boy do I get pissed off easy.
I'm applying for an apprenticeship with great opportunities, pay and benefits, that is going to require a drug test of me. I am hoping this last marijuana purchase will be the last for a while. I would like to pass the test without having to go through the discomfort of drinking a couple of gallons of water in a short period of time, all the while still worrying about the potential for a MJ positive test.
This is my life, and this is a great opportunity and failing this drug test will disqualify me for 2 years. This test is for the career I hope to have for many years.
Any advice, and support is appreciated.
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Dark_Star
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: blissedout]
#6717538 - 03/27/07 07:24 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I'll have to third that...  
badreligion2good....my advice to you is to stop smoking altogether until after this test. If this is something that you really want to dedicate yourself too, then it's a sacrifice worth making. Good luck!
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Edited by Dark_Star (03/28/07 12:09 PM)
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blissedout
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I agree with Darkstar on this. Your career is way too important to risk for a herb buzz. Just chill for awhile and then you'll be home free. You should try valium, in moderation, for anxiety.
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Baph
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: blissedout]
#6719579 - 03/28/07 10:17 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Good day all.
I read all the posts in this thread and I love it.
On the other hand I seem to have the worst addiction to a chemical that is LEGAL.
We see it everyday.
This addiction is the most vile of all.
This addiction is Cigarettes.
I have been smoking them for 23 years and I have a real desire to stop.For the past 4 days I have been doing what I can to stop this vile addiction.
I have not completely stopped but,I have cut my intake down by 50%
This is not a easy addiction to rid myself of.
I have found that I am very irritable,very short tempered,and in general depressed due to the lack of this addictive substance,along with other psychological things.
I am trying to change my thought processes on how I have veiwed this substance.
I am SICK of waking up in the middle of the night feeling like I can't breath.
I wish to see my children graduate from school and see my future grandchildren."Cold Turkey" has not worked for me in this addiction like it did for Coke (which I was addicted to for 5 years)
I know that if I don't stop I will be dead in at least 10 years.
I do not want to take patches or pills or anything foreign of that nature to sublament my addiction to cigarettes,any comments or help with stoping cigarettes would be gretaly helpful.
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: Baph]
#6719886 - 03/28/07 11:45 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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You have kids? If so, think of the bad image that you are potraying with your smoking. Hopefully, they won't follow by example, in that area.
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Baph
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: blissedout]
#6720012 - 03/28/07 12:24 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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My children despise smoking.
They have the smarts of their mother 
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Liz
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: Baph]
#6720404 - 03/28/07 02:00 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Honestly, try the patch. I know you said you didn't want to use it, but it's wonderful. My fiance smoked for 11 years, sometimes up to 2-3 packs a day, and quit last January. He was MISERABLE, MEAN and had awful cravings until he put a patch on his arm. There are 3 steps to the patch, he wound up only needing it for the 1st step, and then was weaned off enough to stop using it all together. It really does make it less stressful, less painful for those around you, and most importantly it greatly increases your chances of succeeding in kicking the nasty habit.
Good luck!!
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: Baph]
#6811645 - 04/20/07 03:35 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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ciggarettes
god i hate them. I hate how everytime i smoke a ciggarete, im telling myself how much i hate them. I hate how right now a camel filter sounds pretty damn good.  I hate how i have no real reason that i started smokeing. One day i didnt, the next i did.
i hate how natral it feels to smoke one, like its an extension of my hand.
I started smoking when i was 12 years old. i will be 21 in june so my habit has been going on for almost a decade. its scary. I really want to stop.
no cigs tomarrow. Itll be a good day to start. It will be 420, so i can smoke pot if i get cravings, and later tomarrow night im trying DMT for the first time. im really nervous. Hopefully itll help to have the fact that ill be thinking about stopping ciggarettes all day and ill get some insight from the experience. Psycedelics allways do that for me.
there was a while that if i tripped on LSD/Mushrooms if i had a pack of ciggarettes by the peak i had thrown the pack away, and eneded up buying another on the comedown when they gained their appeal back. this happened numerous times :lol
the psychedelics KNOW that its bad.
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Jackenobi
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: suimush]
#6812327 - 04/20/07 09:21 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Hi everyone, i feel i'd like to contribute to this thread and have used the reply to: suimush as cigarettes are probably my cardinal addiction of the moment.
I'd never thought of myself as one with an addictive personality, but here I am aged 23 years with a list of past and present addictions and the knowledge that i have a penchant for kind of 'downgrading' the addictive reflex, into other areas.
My biggest addiction to date: pot
I am no longer addicted to it, though i of course experience the peculiar mantra most posters here will recognise when i come into contact with it. I have casual relationships with the usual spectrum of other drugs up to the point of heroin or crack.
I'll just reel off the other areas i feel i am addicted so to clear my mind:
Cigarettes (non filtered rollies)
The Internet
Well whoops that seems to be it. Though i feel i allow myself to stagnate in many other areas of my life, mostly at home. I guess then i wanted to post because i feel i nonetheless have issues with the addictive reflex, it is always at the corner of my mind that i have a crutch socially or that i could be a lot more productive with my time, and so end each day feeling more fulfilled, like my life is being given meaning in personal advancement. Instead of how it is, how it seems to be.
For instance i'll sit at the internet, mindful that i have exhausted my interest after checking for messages, news and so on, but will feel incapable of turning it off. I'll think: ok so i'll use the computer for a little writing, but that pleasurable though i almost delibarately thwart by thinking 'oh but it'll be just more time at the computer so i'll check this site' then i end up spending two hours or so more grazing at the screen, true to form.
Like i say i dont feel i have any bombastic addictions (to common perception, like heroin for instance) but i do recognise the reflex. Even the guitar becomes part of it. I'll pick it up still staring at the screen and strum mindlessly, feeling an acute unhappiness at being so disconnected but not sitting down with it and learning a little, or practicing proper. Its stupid. Im trying to purge it now, at the internet, by getting the feelings out. It feels counter productive!
When i finally quit weed after truly being grabbed by the balls and sent down a dark and unpleasant path i moved onto cigarettes in earnest. I'm sick of them now and want to stop.
What i'm trying to get across, largely to myself, is that it is the mindset that causes me so much anger, or pain, or unhappy confusion. Even guitar! It seems like a cop out to pick it up because i am never truly attuned to the effort of creation, or learning. It needs to stop and if writing this can prove a positive or even monumental step as my mind of the now is urging it can, then all will be well!
How do i beat the mindset? I'm going to check back to this thread, as reading each personal account is interesting, if not sometimes heartening. Like the dude above (sorry i forget your name), maybe i should ration my hours. I definitely should. Maybe i am at a point after so many years of lazy addiction and solopsising i need to give myself a structure.
Get this: I am more or less a recovering schizophrenic. The past week, for the first time in many years, i have been showering every day! A step in the right direction for certain, even such a small thing feels really good. But i hope i can galvanize a kind of clean sweep, as much of one as i can handle or tolerate, into pursuing the path i want to travel, for real.
Apologies if this post is a little self indulgent, that is one of the concerns, the easy self indulgence i grant myself that ultimately leaves me feeling more barren than i otherwise might. I hope, as part of a forum for the communication and relation of ideas and feelings my account is of a little interest at least!
I'll finish with a quick tale of two friends and their coming battle with the booze:
One my housemate, one my neighbour, they've taken to drinking the cheapest white cider they can buy (£2/2ltr) at a disturbing regularity. The act of buying and drinking it, as students in digs, is reinforced by the cheapness as student kitsch and of course alcohol has its anaesthesiac effects also. They both fairly often complain of their unhappiness (i can only credit them so far, as i have a very different mindset from that which they display). They sit there and have drunken conversations of increasing ludicrousness, though i understand where they are coming from nonetheless. Talking of their gravestones, considering their relationship: discounting all else as fallacy, one proposed 'Chris, used to drink with Alex' One of the two described this elegy as 'glorious' with unstinting sincerity. Long story short, i can see as an outside party (i rarely drink much but water) how their attitude and actions are leading them to become alcoholics. They can see it too even. But they are caught in a downward slope i recognise from a heavy weed addiction (the never without it for many years kind, desperate to score sometimes... you know), where it seems all the more fun for it being 'bad'. Like a fun game where you are encouraging yourself but not truly in tune with you ultimately it will lead. Both these guys get the blue shakes now. Its ugly shit. I know how people are, at my age or in general or whatever and they are not going to listen to me if i nag them about it, though i have mentioned it. We'll see how it goes. I just tend to say 'i dont give a fuck you'll be hilarious friends to have for a while'. So whatever, i kind of felt a need to talk about that shit too.
I have a feeling i may have come across a little whiney or irrelevant here, the way i have expressed the manifestations of an addictive personality, or the little story. My root point is my own mental set up and its debilitation. The crux being, take my life into my own hands proper, improve, think, follow through with the ideas that encourage my heartmind as they occur throughout the day. Or suffer an ignomious existence, encroached instead by my minds own daily edicts of unhappiness and grasping depression.
And maybe that is a message that could stand to be heard in this thread. I'm going to start in earnest trying to better the depression that stagnating compulsion and addiction has caused. I'll check back later and let y'all know how its going! Myself too.
Thanks for starting a great thread dude and good luck one and all with their shiz. There was a lot that rang true with me, so thanks for sharing that too, it helps my understanding to recognise myself in others, for sure. I hope self introspection and getting the creative or reflective juices flowing helps my attitude develop as i hope it will. As it must.
Gratitude. Peace y'all.
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Dark_Star
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: Jackenobi]
#6925823 - 05/16/07 04:40 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Well man, it sounds like you have a good idea of what you need to work on....that's the first step. Actually doing it is a whole different beast, but you can do it. You've got it in you, now do it up! 
I'm sure most of you read that thread about the horrific tragedy in Ohio this past weekend, well, reading it really stunned & horrified me, and brought up a whole slew of emotions (from what I gathered from the thread, addiction played a major role). Having had problems with the same drug, and also having been at rock bottom and full of suicidal thoughts, albeit with no intention of going through with it (I was just drowning myself in heroin & coke; was lost, didn't know what I could do about it, and figured the drugs would finish the job eventually  ), it really struck me to the core; I don't like hearing about those who lose the battle, and we're all brothers & sisters, so I feel the pain of all those involved.
Anyway, this was shortly before I went to bed, and I knew that it would play a part in my dreams, and sure enough, right before I woke up for the morning it did. In this dream I was with a few people at some sort of weird treatment place, and this dude shot a couple of us up with methadone. When it was my turn it literally felt EXACTLY like the hit from heroin....and I mean exactly.....it was as real as anything. I woke up shortly after, remembering all of it.....and it didn't effect me. At all! I haven't had any real cravings for months, nor have I had any dreams about it...but back when I used to dream about it I'd wake up with that dull ache....wishing I had some, and I never even got to get high in those dreams. This morning I experienced a full blown heroin rush in my dream, and woke up ready for the day, excited about upcoming events & with no desire for opiates at all. I thought "that wasa fucked up dream.....I knew something like that was going to happen".....but that's it; no aching, no cravings, nothing...... I'm doing my best to describe this and failing miserably, but anyone who's been an addict knows how amazing this is. I am truly blessed, and had to share this with all of you.......keep the faith my brothers & sisters, you can all make it. 
One more thing; in light of the recent tragedy this needs to be said; NEVER give up; there is ALWAYS hope. May my story give all who are struggling hope & strength to keep on keeping on, and get their lives back. You can do it. Seriously.
Much Luck, Love & Light
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nakors_junk_bag
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: Dark_Star]
#6930461 - 05/17/07 02:14 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Its been quite awhile since I have had the alcohol. Man, I feel great. Jan 30 was the last time I drank anything, and it seems tot me that my thought processes have changed dramatically. My life is filled with hope again, although that may be due in large part to the fact that I have found a resolution regarding all my charges. I am no longer looking at a 15 year prison sentence, although if I violate probation I will do three. Still I can think clearly, my soul is starting to resurface after it buried itself in deep to protect itself from the dead of chronic and habituated drunkenness. Life is again fraught with color and enchantment> I feel awesome, I also shook off a pretty bad coke habit too. I have never felt this good. One day at a time.
Its kinda a scary knowing at any minute if I let my guard down I could slide right back into old patterns. Its terrifying actually. I mean I really love the way a good Pale Ale tastes, and the way a fresh rail of some fire coke feels as it snakes its way into your core. I just have to constantly remind myself that to fuck up now is o go back to prison, and worse still disappoint all my people. To fuck up now is to slide back down the mountain that is addiction, I am running out of energy and may not make it up again.
I never really was one for the whole N.A, A.A thing. Its just not my swagger. Still, if it works for you, eat your heart. None-the-less it is one day at a time. I must remain forever vigilant. My plan is for the next three years to use the external motivator liberty as my will to stay clean, then when that is handled I will cross that bridge when I get there.
Anyone wants to talk about whatever, hit me up pm. I will send a number you can get a hold of me at and we ca vibe awhile.
Good luck, and delightful trails.
P-yeace.
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Dark_Star
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Congratulations brother, keep up the good work!!!!!
I gotta agree with you on the NA/NA thing.....it's definitely not for me, and IMHO the attitude on life and dealing with addiction there is pretty depressing and lame, but to each his/her own.... Whatever works best for ya.
Willpower my brothers & sisters; you can do whatever you put your mind too. 
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: Dark_Star]
#6932278 - 05/17/07 10:10 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Dark_Star said:
Well man, it sounds like you have a good idea of what you need to work on....that's the first step. Actually doing it is a whole different beast, but you can do it. You've got it in you, now do it up!
Thanks for the big up!
Fucked up shit been going on community-wise, i wont say it puts it in perspective, it seems all one perspective. But you gotta remember what you've got: the will to carry through, the will to power.
Big props y'all 
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Dark_Star
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: Jackenobi]
#6934612 - 05/18/07 12:27 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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By community do you mean the shroomery? If so I agree 100%; I love this community very, very much.....I've learned so much from it, and met a lot of wonderful people through it. However, it's really changed a lot and lately I've found myself unable to get too involved in the posting. My RL has been rapidly changing/accelerating lately, in an extremely postive way, and while I'll always be around to keep in touch, there's a lot of other things going on in my life that I need to devote myself to.
This is by no means a goodbye; I'll always check up on the goings on here, and add my thoughts when the spirit moves me, as well as keep up correspondence with some folks that I've formed a strong kinship with. The Shroomery and all it's members will always hold a very special place in heart, however; my life/path is moving in other directions, and I need to go with the flow.
As I said though, I'll always check in, so if anyone needs to talk, please PM me whenever....it might take me a bit to get back to you, but I'll check things out as often as I can.
Much Love, Light & good luck to you all!
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dobie
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: Dark_Star]
#7047731 - 06/14/07 08:58 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Man I just remembered about this thread I really think this should be sticky. I have been having a really hard time lately I got busted with some heroin I lost my job I lost my car am really close to loosing my apartment and on top of it all my fiance left me a couple months ago life really sucks I have cut myself down to using just enough to keep me well I havent even done any dope today just ate about 100mgs of morphine so I can sleep tonight. Life fucking sucks big time man It really does I am working on getting into a detox program I just need to get a new ID and 50 bucks and they will put me on suboxone to anyone reading this just getting into opiates watch your ass they will get ya before ya know it
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: dobie]
#7049443 - 06/15/07 12:50 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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dobie said:
Man I just remembered about this thread I really think this should be sticky.
I'm on it, holmes!
Dobes, gonna make it to Ohio this year?
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dobie
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I doubt it man I am so broke I can't even pay attention bro
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Re: Addiction Support Thread [Re: dobie]
#7081737 - 06/22/07 10:12 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
dobie said:
M to anyone reading this just getting into opiates watch your ass they will get ya before ya know it
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