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OfflineLightningfractal
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Vocal racism should be removed from OTD..
    #6579897 - 02/18/07 12:23 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

It's time we face the fact that racism isn't cool, and it isn't cool in conversations either. The rest of the world has rejected racism, and we should catch up with them, it's the 21st century.

Therefore, I'm requesting that the "vocal racism" aspect of OTD to be removed from the list of allowable OTD behaviors.

We just plain don't need racism anywhere on the site. Wouldn't you agree?


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6579949 - 02/18/07 12:45 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Heres a idea, how about not going into OTD. Then you can believe there's no racism in the world.:rolleyes:


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6579957 - 02/18/07 12:49 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Does it tell you anything that the ACLU provided legal help to the civil rights movement in the past and provides legal help to neo-nazis today?


Freedom of speech, pal. It doesn't matter if it's hateful or not. Hate is as much a part of life as anything else. Don't sterilize my life. Don't censor my speech. Don't desecrate my OTD.


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OfflineLightningfractal
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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Brainiac]
    #6579963 - 02/18/07 12:51 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I look at it like this...

If basic common human decency and respect is missing from any one part of the site, then it is indeed missing from the entire site as a whole.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: dickdeadly]
    #6579968 - 02/18/07 12:54 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

And this guy has the cheek to call himself an OTD freedom fighter. The only thing that needs to be removed from OTD is LightningFractal.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Hanky]
    #6579972 - 02/18/07 12:56 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

what do you call a black man flying a plane?


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6579973 - 02/18/07 12:56 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:


This forum contains content that many will find extremely offensive. Such material includes grotesque imagery, vocal racism, and generally disrespectful behavior. While some of our guidelines are relaxed, we do reserve the right to enforce them at any time. All views are those of their author and are in no way endorsed by the Shroomery.




Sure, you could change all that, but why piss in someone else's cereal? The people who want to be immature and disrespectful have a forum in which to do it (which benefits the rest of the website which doesn't have to tolerate such behavior as a result), and the people who might be offended by what occurs in the forum have a disclaimer that lets them know beforehand of what lies ahead.

Everyone would be satisfied with this if the people who cannot handle the offensive content were to heed the warning in the disclaimer.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #6579974 - 02/18/07 12:56 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

A pilot you racists


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it is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.
A penalty for possession of a drug/plant should not be more damaging than the drug/plant itself.


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OfflineLightningfractal
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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Hanky]
    #6579979 - 02/18/07 12:57 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

And I say it is you who should not be there. But that is another thread.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6579988 - 02/18/07 01:00 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6579990 - 02/18/07 01:00 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Quote:


  This forum contains content that many will find extremely offensive. Such material includes grotesque imagery, vocal racism, and generally disrespectful behavior. While some of our guidelines are relaxed, we do reserve the right to enforce them at any time. All views are those of their author and are in no way endorsed by the Shroomery. 




Sure, you could change all that, but why piss in someone else's cereal? The people who want to be immature and disrespectful have a forum in which to do it (which benefits the rest of the website which doesn't have to tolerate such behavior as a result), and the people who might be offended by what occurs in the forum have a disclaimer that lets them know beforehand of what lies ahead.

Everyone would be satisfied with this if the people who cannot handle the offensive content were to heed the warning in the disclaimer.




:handth:


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OfflineLightningfractal
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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6579992 - 02/18/07 01:01 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with the freedom of speech concept, but racist hatespeech should be the one exception. It just isn't nescessary...

This is afterall a private site and we are guests, and so racist speech should be disallowed just like it would be if you were visiting someone else's house and sitting in their living room.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6579998 - 02/18/07 01:03 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Lightningfractal said:


hahaha nigger.




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OfflineLightningfractal
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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Hanky]
    #6580009 - 02/18/07 01:05 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I'm trying to change, remember?


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Hanky]
    #6580014 - 02/18/07 01:06 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)



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but i thnk everything thats pure is white?
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OfflineLightningfractal
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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Hanky]
    #6580025 - 02/18/07 01:10 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Well, everyone has made mistakes in their past. What matters is to realize your wrongs and take corrective action!

I will of course be happy to abide by the no racism on the Shroomery rule when it is implimented.

And I apologise to any black people I may have offended in the past. Hopefully this thread will help right those wrongs.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580026 - 02/18/07 01:10 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Lightningfractal said:
I agree with the freedom of speech concept, but racist hatespeech should be the one exception. It just isn't nescessary...




"Should" is a moral judgement and whether or not it is necessary is a judgement as well, and I don't recall anyone designating you as the supreme authority as to what should and should not be, as well as what is and is not necessary.

You know, they have one of those supreme authorities in Iran, I hear it is working out quite well for them.

Quote:


This is afterall a private site and we are guests, and so racist speech should be disallowed just like it would be if you were visiting someone else's house and sitting in their living room.




Yes, this is a private website, and we are all guests, and yet the hosts of this private website have specifically, consciously chosen to create the forum in question, as well as to specify and to disclaim that which is permitted and that which is to be expected in the forum.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6580033 - 02/18/07 01:12 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Just lock this pathetic attempt to troll up drama.


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #6580038 - 02/18/07 01:15 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

You haven't even demonstrated how using the term "nigger" constitutes vocal racism, either. Please elaborate on what vocal racism is and your methods of determining this before we can futher discuss banning its usage.

What, LF, is vocal racism?


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Re: Vocal racism should be removed from OTD.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6580040 - 02/18/07 01:16 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

And they have also provided this forum for feedback.

Please don't pretend this has never been a hotly debated issue any time in in the past. I was here when OTD was closed down completely. I believe the incorrect choice was ultimately made, this racism issue always re-surfaces, racism is not a part of freedom, and this policy should be re-visited.


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