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 Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid 
#6558920 - 02/12/07 03:22 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid
February 12, 2007 - Drug Policy News
By Bill Piper
Last week I was supposed to be on MSNBC to talk about the federal government’s stupid anti-marijuana ads. I was bumped at the last minute because the host, Tucker Carlson, wanted to interview Congressman Mark Souder (R-IN) instead. I never thought I would say this, but I’m glad I got bumped. Souder made a total fool of himself.
First, he said that smoking marijuana is not that much different from doing lines of cocaine or smoking crack in terms of the dangers. This sends the wrong message to teens. By saying that marijuana, a relatively benign drug, is as dangerous as crack cocaine it minimizes the real dangers associated with cocaine use.
Then Souder went on to say that thousands of Americans die from marijuana every year and that everyone who smokes marijuana will eventually become an addict. And this is from the ranking Republican on the House subcommittee that oversees federal drug war policies. Wow.
You can watch him make a fool out of himself on the MSNBC website. I've also posted a transcript of some of what he said below.
After you have fun watching or reading his remarks, please take a minute to fax Congress in support of eliminating those stupid anti-marijuana ads. Every evaluation of the program has found that they’re doing more harm than good.
And oh yeah, I’m proud to say that I went toe-to-toe against Drug Czar John Walters in a hundred newspapers over the weekend.
Partial transcript of Souder’s remarks:
REP. SOUDER: Marijuana is the primary gateway drug, although tobacco and alcohol, because they're all illegal for youth, you could argue that tobacco is a gateway drug to marijuana. Smoking marijuana is then a gateway drug for others. Furthermore, the THC content of BC Bud, Quebec Gold and this marijuana that's currently on the streets isn't like the Cheech and Chong marijuana. It's more like cocaine. But, that aside, I and members of Congress believe this ad program –
MR. CARLSON: How is it more like -- hold on. I'm sorry, Congressman. How is it more like coke? I don't understand what you mean by that.
REP. SOUDER: In other words, the THC of ditchweed and what was happening when I was in college in the late '60s and early '70s had a THC of 4 to 8 percent, maybe as high as 12. Now we're looking at 20, 30, 40 percent. And the kick and the addiction you get, the destruction in your brain cells, is more like coke or crack than it is like the old-time marijuana.
Rep. Souder made these comments as he was defending the Bush Administration’s request for more funding for anti-marijuana TV ads that have been shown to actually increase youth marijuana use. One of the reasons the campaign has backfired is that the ads make ridiculous statements that teens reject, such as equating marijuana use with terrorism and suggesting that smoking marijuana will lead one to kill people.
For the importance of 100% honesty when talking to teens about drugs see our Safety First website.
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: veggie]
#6559176 - 02/12/07 04:13 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Few things are as humorous as a U.S. politician or bureaucrat trying to sound knowledgable on a subject they know next to nothing about (which is just about every subject).
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: veggie]
#6559216 - 02/12/07 04:21 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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[In other words, the THC of ditchweed and what was happening when I was in college in the late '60s and early '70s had a THC of 4 to 8 percent, maybe as high as 12. Now we're looking at 20, 30, 40 percent. And the kick and the addiction you get, the destruction in your brain cells, is more like coke or crack than it is like the old-time marijuana.]
Oh... I'm such an idiot. I thought that a higher THC content in cannabis meant that you had to smoke less to achieve the same effect as smoking more of lesser quality buds. Little did I know that if flowering buds have too much THC in them, they begin converting the excess THC to a cocaine base. Wonder what else I'm misinformed about?
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I was hoping they were going trying to fund the above the influence commercials. The cartoon ones are hilarious.
Pothead- I can quit anytime
dog- how about now?
Pothead- Next weeks better.
dog- you disapoint me
pothead- dont leave I neeed you
The music is great too...
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thos anti pot add makes me want to get stoned. just out of frustration.
im a pot addict! even though i havent smoked for months... pshhh
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: moon_glue]
#6559500 - 02/12/07 05:09 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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souder got owned in that interview i saw it, what a doofus and a half, all trying to change the subject when the guy asked him how many people has marijuana killed through overdose.
dude is just the scum on the bottom of my shoe, and id like to launch this shoe up his ass for being such a prick, he is useless to society, people like him are the ones that belong in prison.
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: veggie]
#6559939 - 02/12/07 06:27 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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too bad he doesn't realize the real gateway to drug use is being human, lets kill all the humans so none of them can get high
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: barfightlard]
#6559989 - 02/12/07 06:41 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
barfightlard said:
too bad he doesn't realize the real gateway to drug use is being human
Brilliant, very brilliant, and true. 
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: veggie]
#6560351 - 02/12/07 08:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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If only I watched T.V. instead of smoking pot all day...
Alas, how will the government ever get the message through to save me from myself? 
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: veggie]
#6560682 - 02/12/07 09:08 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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People dying from weed? Surely he wasn't serious, but then again, he is a politician.
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: ToiletDuk]
#6561499 - 02/13/07 12:13 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey hey hey hey. smoke weed everyday.
it's about to be 4:20 SOMEWHERE.. light it up.
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: jdirty]
#6561862 - 02/13/07 04:31 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Heh, addictive...
I got stoned at least 3 times a day (work was easy) and quit cold turkey without a problem. Hell, I haven't smoked since October and never have withdrawals, although I'd love to smoke.
I like how there's a lot more pro-marijuana stuff on tv nowadays. I'm praying that it's legalized before I die. Hopefully this marijuana won't kill me too soon...
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: Jorsher]
#6563653 - 02/13/07 04:02 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I thought I remember reading somewhere that one of the highest THC levels found was like 26% ? Im not too sure but I don't think it was in the 30s of 40s like that dude is saying
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Re: Congressman Souder Smokes the Kool-Aid [Re: Dr_Mcgillicuddy]
#6570501 - 02/15/07 10:51 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Average THC Content in Seized Marijuana (1972 - 2004)
http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/fed-data/thc-content/index.htm
Come on, cut the congressman some slack. It can't be easy pulling "facts" out of your ass & trying to confidently assert them as such when you really don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about; when your position on behalf of large corporations/the U.$. government serves only to further perpetuate propaganda to the already brainwashed masses. At least some commentators are starting to combat the lies on the subject of cannabis. Now more need to start speaking against lies such as, "Our brave young men & women are fighting for the freedom of the people of (insert whatever resource-rich and/or strategically important region of the globe U.$.-based multi-nationals have sent the U.$. military to invade & occupy)".
There is only one way repudiate outright lies & subtle distortion; the truth. It is the obligation of all who know the truth to articulate it & enlighten those who do not.
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