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 juggalacious12
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 War, and the War on drugs
#6556720 - 02/12/07 12:30 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Is the war on drugs just another war, to perpetually stimulate america?
Many, including myself, believe that the Government/America needs to be in a constant state of warfare. This does many good things that the government finds tasteful, who hasn't heard the saying "Aint nothing like a good 'ol fashiioned war."? It not only stimulates the economy but really unites the peoples of america and gets us going toward one goal.
No war can last forever, is it possible that the war on drugs is just a falicious war to say take up extra times of peace, when the peoples need to be united?
If what I say is true, then an end to this war is inevatably forecast. I for one will be watching and waiting, as well as trying to validate/conclude this little gem/fart.
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It's kinda like the "rooms" made from drawing a star, where you are in the middle and have access to all of the other rooms simultaniously. Ya know?
Also, I guess that I feel it apropriate to note that all statements of mine are either hypathetical, invalid, or otherwise legal.
The resistance to side changes, fixation in one place without the ability to change it, precievably.
YOu will never see a psychedelic experience greater than yourself (keep in mind that this is still relative, and that your best, however sad it may be, is still THE best!)
I don't just want to see these fascets of my mind, I want(have) to experience them.
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Basilides
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War is fairly principle to governments that wish to expand their control over their citizens. War with this motivation in mind will always be an illusion whether literally fought against a proclaimed enemy, or simply an inquisition against a government's own citizens as is the case of the War on Drugs. When a society becomes hysterical and fatalistic about something, they do not question curtails of personal freedom and might actually encourage it.
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trippindad82
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Re: War, and the War on drugs [Re: Basilides]
#6557327 - 02/12/07 07:43 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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It seems to me that war is money. Once our govt labels something as a "war", they are free to spend as much unaccounted money as they please (IMO). War is also a word to keep fear instilled into the citizens a govt wants to control, so I support what Basilides said above. If you look back over the last 100 years of American society, you will see that there has always been some sort of scare (war) movement going on. We have seen the war on drugs, alcohol, "nazi" beliefs, immigration, communism (twice, once before ww2, and during the coldwar), drugs again, and most recently terrorism. A society kept in fear will never question the true agenda behind the so-called "wars" because they are already buying into the govt/media/corporate propaganda. It's a tried and true plan that has worked for thousands of years (Nero burning Rome and blaming it on the Christians) and until we as a society realize that we as humans should be free to do as we see pleased (within humane reason, no killing, raping, stealing, etc) we will always have a propaganda war on something.
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juggalacious12
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Re: War, and the War on drugs [Re: trippindad82]
#6557346 - 02/12/07 07:54 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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What you guys said is basically what I just said, war will be perpetual, in order to rally the citizens.
It's not that the public are buying into the govt/... falacy, it's just that that is the "true" agenda and no one really cares to look any deeper. This I find especially hard since the manipulations essentailly just don't exist.
We see trillions of dollars being spent on just the war on iran, we all know that it doesn't cost that much, especially since we aren't really doing anything anymore, except paying for seat filling time.. This money I assume isn't being spent on some interesting government project that turns people into mutants or some useful thing like that but is rather probably just piped into statesman's pockets.
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It's kinda like the "rooms" made from drawing a star, where you are in the middle and have access to all of the other rooms simultaniously. Ya know?
Also, I guess that I feel it apropriate to note that all statements of mine are either hypathetical, invalid, or otherwise legal.
The resistance to side changes, fixation in one place without the ability to change it, precievably.
YOu will never see a psychedelic experience greater than yourself (keep in mind that this is still relative, and that your best, however sad it may be, is still THE best!)
I don't just want to see these fascets of my mind, I want(have) to experience them.
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juggalacious12
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Registered: 02/11/07
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No one has any thoughts on this? I would love some input!!
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It's kinda like the "rooms" made from drawing a star, where you are in the middle and have access to all of the other rooms simultaniously. Ya know?
Also, I guess that I feel it apropriate to note that all statements of mine are either hypathetical, invalid, or otherwise legal.
The resistance to side changes, fixation in one place without the ability to change it, precievably.
YOu will never see a psychedelic experience greater than yourself (keep in mind that this is still relative, and that your best, however sad it may be, is still THE best!)
I don't just want to see these fascets of my mind, I want(have) to experience them.
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 AlteredAgain
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the war on drugs is essentially a war on consciousness and human interiority.
in other words, take away a person's right to manage their own neurochemistry and only permit the distribution of certain substances that are selected by the governmental powers that be, and you end up with denying the individual free conscious management over their own central nervous system.
i've come to the conclusion that the whole war on drugs is really designed to be an assault on human sanctity. simple as that.
we know it's not about keeping us safe because of the facts screaming right back in our faces. tobacco, alcohol, and pharmaceuticals being the three top causes of drug deaths.
we know it's not about fighting crime because of the very fact that illegalizing something automatically creates a black market for it. toss law enforcement into the equation and what you have is a war of good vs. evil.
the reasons for putting so much money into an anti-drug program which would be much better spent on health-beneficiary programs and real education are totally unsustainable in the light of the statistics.
the reasons for locking so many people in jail for the mere act of altering their brain chemistry is not only costly but ethically insane and harmful to the social fabric.
to add a few last words, the war on drugs will continue to exist as long as we recognize its very existence. ironically that's the only real support it has, our collective consensus.
so pay attention to tv and movies, where the realities of the drug war are constantly re-affirmed, and pay attention to your own inner values.
be consistent in what you truly believe in and share with others how you feel.
re-claim your interiority and re-take control over your own body.
i think tim leary once said, your skin is your nation's borders and everything within these borders is yours to govern and defend.
i believe he hit the nail right on the head.
 
  
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juggalacious12
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Re: War, and the War on drugs [Re: AlteredAgain]
#6568181 - 02/14/07 06:49 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you for that great reply AlteredAgain!
Most inportantly, I do not believe that this war will last indefinately. Not even just as a means of getting to know the younger generation, but prolly just because no one really cares. Are you yet to find anyone who is truely passionate about keeping these laws, active participation and such? In my very few years on this poor(?) earth I am yet to find one.
I had a really greater post but accedently went back a page and lost it... Now I've lost my great if not long reply and I'm paranoid so I will leave it here for a bit.
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It's kinda like the "rooms" made from drawing a star, where you are in the middle and have access to all of the other rooms simultaniously. Ya know?
Also, I guess that I feel it apropriate to note that all statements of mine are either hypathetical, invalid, or otherwise legal.
The resistance to side changes, fixation in one place without the ability to change it, precievably.
YOu will never see a psychedelic experience greater than yourself (keep in mind that this is still relative, and that your best, however sad it may be, is still THE best!)
I don't just want to see these fascets of my mind, I want(have) to experience them.
Edited by juggalacious12 (02/15/07 07:41 AM)
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toolband420
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it's not a war on drugs its a war on personal freedom "Bill Hicks"
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FocusHawaii
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Re: War, and the War on drugs [Re: toolband420]
#6633496 - 03/04/07 03:47 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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The crazy thing about the two big wars now, terrorism and drugs, is the fact they are concepts. There's no borders or goverments that define either but instead it's malleable and one hostile goverment can be hammered in to fit the concepts.
Edited by FocusHawaii (03/04/07 11:31 PM)
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