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 Re: Adam Burch Act Introduced to Punish Drug Dealers in Oregon [Re: SuperD]
#6530814 - 02/04/07 04:56 PM |
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Oh, I understood... just commenting.
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Re: Adam Burch Act Introduced to Punish Drug Dealers in Oregon [Re: Koala Koolio]
#6530854 - 02/04/07 05:09 PM |
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Yes, bartenders / drinking establishments can be held responsible for the drunken actions of their patrons after they leave said establishment.
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Re: Adam Burch Act Introduced to Punish Drug Dealers in Oregon [Re: Koala Koolio]
#6532186 - 02/05/07 12:36 AM |
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Koala Koolio said:
Shall we lock up every bartender who serves a drink to someone who gets a DUI? Maybe give em the chair if the driver runs over a kid?
Actually... This is already the case. You can be prosecuted, as a bartender, if you serve someone excessive alcohol and they receive are involved in an accident after the fact. It's just hard to prove. (I.e. the cops call and say such and such got in an accident... who served him? Assuming there's more than one bartender, everyone says it was Mr. Nobody.)
If you're a server/bartender and done the ABC liquor class you'll know what I'm talking about.
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Koala Koolio said:
I'm not entirely sure how I feel about that.
Anyone who watches a stumbling-ass drunk person climb behind the wheel and does nothing is a shame to society. But is punishment the solution? Is it not ridiculous that such a small sliver of concern for one's fellow humans can't be developed without threatening to take away personal freedoms?
Uhh... Do you GO to bars much, or know anyone that does? I never realized how rampant drunk driving is until I started going to clubs more often. It seems like *everyone* drives drunk.
Edited by PFC (02/05/07 12:39 AM)
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Re: Adam Burch Act Introduced to Punish Drug Dealers in Oregon [Re: NeuroticTrip]
#6532241 - 02/05/07 01:16 AM |
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Sure. A friday night in a college town can be absolutely absurd. I just meant to emphasize the point that forcing punishment can only get you so far, and that a real sense of social responsibility is what needs to be developed. My point is that we're all a "shame" in that way. Nearly everyone does drive drunk at some point. Then there are those who drive absolutely plastered... the point where you'd be unable to flush a toilet, let alone drive.
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Re: Adam Burch Act Introduced to Punish Drug Dealers in Oregon [Re: Koala Koolio]
#6532618 - 02/05/07 07:41 AM |
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Given how low the ACTUAL limits are it's hard not to drive intoxicated, I used to goto happy hour a few times a week to meet with friends and socialize on the way home from work my one friend picked up a DWAI after 2 dark beers (pints).
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Re: Adam Burch Act Introduced to Punish Drug Dealers in Oregon [Re: rawtoxic]
#6534539 - 02/05/07 07:31 PM |
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DWAI - Driving While Almost Intoxicated?
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