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Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report)
    #6492381 - 01/24/07 10:45 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2007/01/24/3437513-sun.html

Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth

The pills have the word "love" printed on them or they're stamped with a variety of icons, such as happy faces and hearts.

But cops say there is nothing cheerful or endearing about the latest designer drug that has hit city streets.

Winnipeg police are warning drug users to be aware that more and more drugs in the city are being cut with methamphetamine, meaning users might be ingesting more than they think.

Analysis of a recent drug seizure in the city has shown pills sold illegally as either ecstasy or caffeine pills contained methamphetamine, a dangerous and powerful drug made by mixing ephedrine with common chemicals like paint thinner, swimming pool cleaner, camping fuel or farm fertilizer.

The small batch seized and analyzed by police consisted of white pills stamped with a Coca-Cola logo, but Sgt. Kelly Dennison, a spokesman for Winnipeg police, said it isn't just one batch of pills people need to look out for.

"It's being sold in Winnipeg at large," he said. "We're starting to see meth injected into more illegal narcotics of all types.

PUBLIC SAFETY

"This is a public safety issue. People who are buying illegal narcotics are not getting what they think they're getting. Back in the day when you bought marijuana, you got marijuana, when you bought cocaine, you got cocaine. Now when you buy marijuana, half the time it's laced with meth. This is a newer thing we're seeing."

Dennison said drug producers and dealers use meth in other drugs for two reasons: One, it's cheap to make because it uses common ingredients and, two, it has an addictive quality that makes for repeat business.

"Say you buy five or 10 ecstasy pills from a dealer, but really there's meth in it. The next time you go to buy you're going to want the same thing you had last time," he said.

WHAT IT DOES

Methamphetamine facts:

- Methamphetamine, also known as speed, crank, ice, crystal meth or chalk, is a white, odourless, crystalline powder that is also a highly addictive stimulant.

- It is made mostly in underground drug labs by using common precursor chemicals, such as drain cleaner and paint thinner, to create a chemical reaction with ephedrine or pseudoephedrine.

- It can be snorted, swallowed, injected or smoked, producing a long-lasting high by releasing dopamine into the brain.

- It can cause users to become violent, paranoid, anxious, delusional or confused. Complications include increased heart rate, high blood pressure, weight loss and brain damage.

http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2007/01/23/3431981.html

Police warn of designer drug

Winnipeg Police Service are advising the public of a designer drug currently being circulated on the streets of Winnipeg.

This drug is in pill form and is being distributed by local drug traffickers as Ecstasy or as simply containing caffeine.

Chemical analysis has determined that the pill contains caffeine and methamphetamine, a very dangerous and addictive substance.

These pills are often stamped with a variety of icons such as happy faces, hearts etc.

A recent seizure of pills containing methamphetamine bore the Coca Cola stylized trademark, stamped into the white pill.

Read more in tomorrow's Winnipeg Sun.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2007/01/23/dangerous-pills.html

Cute little pills dangerous, Winnipeg police warn

Winnipeg police warn that a designer drug is being circulated on the city's streets in the form of cute little pills stamped with things such as happy faces and hearts, and that they contain a dangerous and addictive drug component.

The pills are distributed by traffickers describing them as ecstasy, or saying they simply contain caffeine.

However, a chemical analysis of the pills showed they not only contained caffeine, but also methamphetamine.

Methamphetamine is chemically related to amphetamine, but, at comparable doses, the effects are much more potent, longer lasting, and more harmful to the central nervous system, according to the U.S. National Institute on Drug Abuse.

A recent seizure of the pills bore a copy of the Coca Cola trademark.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Wronguy]
    #6493057 - 01/24/07 02:12 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Wronguy said:
http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2007/01/24/3437513-sun.html

Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth

Now when you buy marijuana, half the time it's laced with meth. This is a newer thing we're seeing."





Oh ya, at least half the time. Idiots.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Nephlyte]
    #6493194 - 01/24/07 03:00 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

That is one of the reasons I fear ecstasy. Who knows what is in the pill.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Wronguy]
    #6493391 - 01/24/07 04:10 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Wronguy said:
"This is a public safety issue. People who are buying illegal narcotics are not getting what they think they're getting. Back in the day when you bought marijuana, you got marijuana, when you bought cocaine, you got cocaine. Now when you buy marijuana, half the time it's laced with meth. This is a newer thing we're seeing."





WHAT??

How much misinformation can you give people until they realize you are full of shit! Does the average non-drug using citizen just think drug dealers are malicious assholes that try to sneak drugs into your system every chance they get?
Do they also not realize that a drug dealer would have to pay for the drugs that he is knowingly lacing your weed with? Something that poses no advantage whatsoever to him/her?
Fucking pigs... all the same.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: klassasin]
    #6493395 - 01/24/07 04:11 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Are these idiots just now noticing? I might have considered this news 2 years ago, but not anymore.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #6493426 - 01/24/07 04:22 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Yea what the fuck is the incentive for that many people to lace drugs like pot with meth? There is none! They can make plenty of cash selling it as is to people already addicted, and lacing pot with it is just gonna make someone have a weird experience and not enjoy themselves, not gonna make them "become addicted" to just that person's weed... ridiculous


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Wronguy]
    #6497826 - 01/25/07 09:35 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Analysis of a recent drug seizure in the city has shown pills sold illegally as either ecstasy or caffeine pills contained methamphetamine




Illegal caffeine pills, eh?

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"Say you buy five or 10 ecstasy pills from a dealer, but really there's meth in it. The next time you go to buy you're going to want the same thing you had last time," he said.




I seriously doubt that. MDMA is a better drug than meth, so I don't think most people are going to be going back and buying meth "ecstasy", especially when the dealers usually jack up the price for meth in a pill form sold as ecstasy as opposed to buying crystal meth.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Ravus]
    #6498183 - 01/26/07 12:50 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

The thing is, they dont know its meth as many extacy eaters are first time, or inexperienced drug users, so they like the feeling and go buy more. Another thing is they cant get meth, fuck I cant get meth. Seems like meth is a small circle drug, like heroin. Everybody I know that has eaten extacy except 1(probably upwards of 75 people), have never intentionally done meth.

Another thing these meth pills, somehow feel like a roll. My buddy broke his jaw on a pill we all took, and rolled off of. He got a blood test, and the onlything in his system was thc, and meth. I dunno, there obviously not talking about yabba, but in a way they are. Ive done meth and id have to say the pills we took felt more than just meth, but dident show up as mdma. Mabey they are using meth/research chemicals?


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Ravus]
    #6498237 - 01/26/07 01:41 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

> have never intentionally done meth.

I have, several times, and I know what the drug is like and what it is not like.

> The thing is, they dont know its meth as many extacy eaters are first time, or inexperienced drug users, so they like the feeling and go buy more.

Meth has nothing to do with people enjoying the effects of MDMA and buying more.  You don't magically get addicted to meth after taking it once.  Don't fall for the government propaganda machine.

> Another thing these meth pills, somehow feel like a roll

... yeah, and Salvia is a lot like LSD.  :rolleyes:

The only thing in common between an MDMA roll and a meth euphoria is the tendency to clinch your jaw.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Seuss]
    #6498259 - 01/26/07 01:56 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Thats why I posted that possibly a research chemical in it?Ive done pure mdma, meth, rolls with mdma in them, and then these new "rolls" that dont make you really"roll", but dont feel like just meth, a mix between the 2, then no mdma in blood?? I dunno, the rolls feel like mdma for a little whyle then your just speedy, and are dirt cheep(8-10$ a single). Its been this way for a year or so, the rolls we used to get made you roll, all feel good toutchy and shit. Not saying you get addicted to meth, but people buy more of any x-pill thats out where im at, no matter if you really "roll", or sort of roll, and are speedy. Have you experienced the so called "rolls"?


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: resin]
    #6498319 - 01/26/07 04:03 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

> I dunno, the rolls feel like mdma for a little whyle then your just speedy,

Going pretty far out here, but perhaps a "trained" response based upon expectation? (kind of like the placebo effect). I have seen people respond to fake cocaine as if it were real. The mind is a powerful thing...

I missed the bit about RCs... that is a good point as well.

> Have you experienced the so called "rolls"?

I have rolled on pure MDMA a few times (many years ago), but I have never had an unknown pill, or the "so called rolls" that I think you are describing.

Gah, this kind of crap really annoys me. If they would legalize drugs, then we wouldn't have to worry about what kind of poison we are putting into our bodies along with the drug we are trying to get. The government would rather I die than allow me to put a substance in my body that makes me feel good, other than alcohol of course. Ridiculous.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Seuss]
    #6499214 - 01/26/07 12:02 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

nah man not placebo, I promise, i know my drugs:)  But honestly, these pills arent coming from overseas, and im almost 100%sure its a research chemical, and meth in them.I ate 2 pills about a month ago at the same time. Took along time to kick in. Then i felt weird, almost like a dxm trip, but uppity, sweaty, my vision was choppy bouncy. It wore off after a few hours, then my pupils were just huge, and i was up(no rolling atall). Plus the pills were shaped into a small heart, that was entirely too small to be a roll. People would "roll" off of one though???


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: Wronguy]
    #6502740 - 01/27/07 04:21 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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contained methamphetamine, a dangerous and powerful drug made by mixing ephedrine with common chemicals like paint thinner, swimming pool cleaner, camping fuel or farm fertilizer.





I love how news reporters who don't know shit about drug chemistry try to explain synthesis procedures so simply.

They act like meth is this combination of a bunch of chemicals to create the stimulant effect.

the final meth product contains one chemical.. meth.. no pool cleaner, paint thinner, iodine, battery acid etc... just METH which is extracted out of the red phosphorus and iodine mixture.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: I2ancid]
    #6504485 - 01/28/07 08:42 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Either way, its a pretty fucked up drug, Id never touch it. Mainly because of its addictive properties and because of the propaganda I keep hearing about it.


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Re: Dealers lace street drugs with deadly meth (Multi-Article Report) [Re: TuneInTurnOn]
    #6504833 - 01/28/07 11:52 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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TuneInTurnOn said:
Either way, its a pretty fucked up drug, Id never touch it. Mainly because of its addictive properties and because of the propaganda I keep hearing about it.




If you admit its propaganda why do you submit to it?


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