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Anarchyz0r
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: yageman]
#6369146 - 12/14/06 04:07 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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yageman said: I just hope no one takes your advise. Less so that the guy who said to soak you weed though.

I'm not completely asinine
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LGreco2006
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: Anarchyz0r]
#6369215 - 12/14/06 05:15 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's not enough with just putting the bud in the jar, you got to air it a couple of hours a day. it's like a process. you do this 2-4 weeks.
Edited by LGreco2006 (12/14/06 05:19 AM)
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moho456
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Infested said: Don't have much experience but. Throw the bud in the oven put it on low temperature and open the oven a bit. keep it there for a long time.
-Drys the weed -Cooks it (increases potency)
truth
That is not true at all. Cooking your pot will not increase its potency. Heat and sunlight destroy any active chemicals found within. Dry it in open air, then cure it in airtight jars.
The cure for bad information is not more bad information.
We aren't dealing with sunlight, we are dealing with an oven.
The temperature at which potency of the product is lost is obviously higher than a bake at the lowest temperature setting (wink) on an oven , or we wouldn't smoke it.
I would use a space heater or an oven on convect at the lowest possible heat setting.
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: moho456]
#6369656 - 12/14/06 08:27 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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In my experience, cooking the weed at 250 degrees for about 15 minutes does improve potency, especially if the weed was slightly moist to begin with.
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Irdamage
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: DrGeek]
#6369734 - 12/14/06 09:04 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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For christ sakes. Enough of this "put it in the oven" bullshit. Throw ur Ounce in a brown paper lunch bag for an evening or two. The paper absorbs the excess water left in the bud while still providing a dark yet airy place. After youve removed it from the bag. THEN place it in the canning jars for curing. And this is all assuming ur only drying a relativly small O rather than a whole crop... use some common sense people.......Put the weed in ur oven indeed *sigh*.
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: GirlNinja]
#6369744 - 12/14/06 09:07 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why do you say it's bullshit? Have you tried it?
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Oatman2000
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: DrGeek]
#6369864 - 12/14/06 09:49 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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it does work... in the oven.
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CptnGarden
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: Irdamage]
#6370203 - 12/14/06 11:25 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Irdamage said: For christ sakes. Enough of this "put it in the oven" bullshit. Throw ur Ounce in a brown paper lunch bag for an evening or two. The paper absorbs the excess water left in the bud while still providing a dark yet airy place. After youve removed it from the bag. THEN place it in the canning jars for curing. And this is all assuming ur only drying a relativly small O rather than a whole crop... use some common sense people.......Put the weed in ur oven indeed *sigh*.
another simple minded folk, who says what he believes wether hes tried it or not. anyone who says it doesnt work, and hasnt tried it, is just as bad as the government nazis for saying pot causes you to go crazy.... you guys are like the "reefer madness" of increasing potency. get over yourself and your ways, break outside the box, and give it a shot. it fuckin works.
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circularvortex
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: CptnGarden]
#6370303 - 12/14/06 11:52 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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KidBotany, just stop trying to convince them man. I haven't tried this yet (no place to do it safely), but I can see how it could work.
If they don't want to try it, they're loss, right? And if you disagree with Yageman trying to convince him of anything is damn near impossible. Save your fingers from carpal tunnel for a few more years and let it slide
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circularvortex
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And ya, that $40 a gram figure is absolutely rediculous. Throw away the moldy weed and dry out the rest of it with the advice given here. Then, never buy weed from that guy again. His 'friend' ripped you guys off HARD.
If you'd like you can send me a PM before the next time you buy weed and I'll tell you if it's a decent deal or not
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By making his world a little colder.
Under closer inspection I realised it was a funky ball of tits from outer space.
 
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Irdamage
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: CptnGarden]
#6370348 - 12/14/06 12:03 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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KidBotany said:
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Irdamage said: For christ sakes. Enough of this "put it in the oven" bullshit. Throw ur Ounce in a brown paper lunch bag for an evening or two. The paper absorbs the excess water left in the bud while still providing a dark yet airy place. After youve removed it from the bag. THEN place it in the canning jars for curing. And this is all assuming ur only drying a relativly small O rather than a whole crop... use some common sense people.......Put the weed in ur oven indeed *sigh*.
another simple minded folk, who says what he believes wether hes tried it or not. anyone who says it doesnt work, and hasnt tried it, is just as bad as the government nazis for saying pot causes you to go crazy.... you guys are like the "reefer madness" of increasing potency. get over yourself and your ways, break outside the box, and give it a shot. it fuckin works.
I never said it didn't work. It's just a very poor way of going about drying in my opinion (and yes I have tried both methods). My issues with oven drying is the unneccessary exposure to heat, I find that it effects taste and smell significantly. Personally I dont like my herb tasting like baked ass. So I prefer to dry it through the bag method, so there is no chance of the taste of my herb being effected. I could go into the potential damaging of the active chemicals but it was never really an issue when I tried the oven method, just the taste was effected. So in conclusion, it works, but in my opinion, it alters the taste and smell of the herb too much for me to apreciate it.
And for the record. Your point loses all credibility when you compare someone/something to a nazi over the course of your rant. Peace.
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CptnGarden
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: Irdamage]
#6370643 - 12/14/06 01:34 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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my way is a poor way of drying and my point is no longer valid for comparing someone to the government nazis which you took to mean plain out "nazi"? that makes alot of sense.... nice fodder.... 
if her bud is moldy, putting it in a closed bag regardless of material (unless its made of pure desiccant), is a bad idea. putting it in an oven would have it dry within 20 minutes (usualy under 10)
i too have gone around this experimentation of baking, and played with different methods. just so i dont leave you hanging on a thread of statements, let me give you some background. ive been experimenting for 6 years on different curing and potency methods, some of which i learned from OG, some of which others have taught me, and some of which my mother has passed down from the hippy ages. i have tried letting pot go cracker dry on its own, go cracker dry in a desiccant chamber, cracker in the oven, cracker dry through dry freezing, and cracker dry in the microwave. from best quality (potency) to least
Oven Dry Freeze desiccant - Air Dry (no noticeable difference in potency) Microwave
it seemed as though microwave temps went over evaporation, as i noticed some loss in potency, even with 10-15 second bursts. desiccant and air drying were both the same as far as i could tell, though the air dried buds tasted a little better. Dry freeze, putting the buds in a can with dry ice in the freezer for a week, definate works at making your buds denser, and for some reason causes them to turn a very dark green, almost black. there was a noticeable potency increase, and definately different feel to the stone, but not as dramatic an increase or punch as the oven tek. the oven method, has proven to be the most effective method for increasing potency to regular bud, that i have found.
for taste, hanging and air drying are the best methods!
for those of us who are suffering from medical conditions, while barely keeping dinner on the table everynight, with taste compared to potency, taste is not an issue. i tried many methods from overgrow, most of which didnt work! i am telling you the methods posted for YEARS and published in many cannabis science books since the 70s! baking really does increase the potency by weight, and its not cause your bud shrinks!
i just baked 2 grams of sour diesel last night, which baked down to 1.4, and where 1gram lasted me 3 hours of nausea relief, this baked batch has lasted me 6 hours of nausea relief with only one bong rip! (maybe 0.1? less?) i seriously like to bake most of my pot, as i get my moneys worth, and then some!
for everyone who cares so much about taste, dont do this method, it really will bake out all that smell and taste into your house!
for those suffering bad medical conditions, or even recreational users looking to up the potency of their product so that they may get more for their money, or more of an effect, this method is the potency increase method you should be following. unless u decide to make butane honey oil.
anyone whos posted saying it doesnt work, and hasnt tried it, doesnt know if it really does or not.
thanks for letting us know u tried it, IRdamage, why didnt u give us some background and let us know you have tried it and dont like the taste in the first post when you called it bullshit? from your attitude in your first post, you made it look like you were and ignorant fuck just rambling cause you didnt think it would work, letting us know you have tried it makes a big difference in the way people are going to respond to this subject, especialy those who have been doing it and noticing extremely good results for 6 years and are being told its bullshit.
but if u have tried it, and the problem u see with it is taste and not potency, what does that have to do with potency increase by baking?
still, this thread is about solving her mold problem, and my tek is exactly what the doctor ordered. leaving her pot in a bag while its already moldy, would build humidity within the bag, regardless of it soaking up some of the moisture, and as long as moisture exists in the bud, even if it be little amounts, the mold is going to spread! bad idea.
ive said all i want to say, though i have left alot of good points out, i just feel they arent worth arguing over some hardheaded pot newbies. once again, think what u want. im out of this thread.
oh and CV, i already have carpal tunnel in my left arm, fairly bad too.
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: CptnGarden]
#6371591 - 12/14/06 06:39 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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KidBotany said: the only way you will know is try! why have a bunch of people in the firecracker thread tried it and say it works? why am i saying it now?
well i have heard enough to tempt me into trying this seriously... i HAVE dried weed in the oven before, but to be honest i wouldnt notice if my weed potency increased... im almost immune to the stuff 
i just wanted it dry so i was able to smoke a joint without lighting it before every toke...
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Irdamage
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: CptnGarden]
#6372521 - 12/14/06 10:53 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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KidBotany said: my way is a poor way of drying and my point is no longer valid for comparing someone to the government nazis which you took to mean plain out "nazi"? that makes alot of sense.... nice fodder.... 
if her bud is moldy, putting it in a closed bag regardless of material (unless its made of pure desiccant), is a bad idea. putting it in an oven would have it dry within 20 minutes (usualy under 10)
i too have gone around this experimentation of baking, and played with different methods. just so i dont leave you hanging on a thread of statements, let me give you some background. ive been experimenting for 6 years on different curing and potency methods, some of which i learned from OG, some of which others have taught me, and some of which my mother has passed down from the hippy ages. i have tried letting pot go cracker dry on its own, go cracker dry in a desiccant chamber, cracker in the oven, cracker dry through dry freezing, and cracker dry in the microwave. from best quality (potency) to least
Oven Dry Freeze desiccant - Air Dry (no noticeable difference in potency) Microwave
it seemed as though microwave temps went over evaporation, as i noticed some loss in potency, even with 10-15 second bursts. desiccant and air drying were both the same as far as i could tell, though the air dried buds tasted a little better. Dry freeze, putting the buds in a can with dry ice in the freezer for a week, definate works at making your buds denser, and for some reason causes them to turn a very dark green, almost black. there was a noticeable potency increase, and definately different feel to the stone, but not as dramatic an increase or punch as the oven tek. the oven method, has proven to be the most effective method for increasing potency to regular bud, that i have found.
for taste, hanging and air drying are the best methods!
for those of us who are suffering from medical conditions, while barely keeping dinner on the table everynight, with taste compared to potency, taste is not an issue. i tried many methods from overgrow, most of which didnt work! i am telling you the methods posted for YEARS and published in many cannabis science books since the 70s! baking really does increase the potency by weight, and its not cause your bud shrinks!
i just baked 2 grams of sour diesel last night, which baked down to 1.4, and where 1gram lasted me 3 hours of nausea relief, this baked batch has lasted me 6 hours of nausea relief with only one bong rip! (maybe 0.1? less?) i seriously like to bake most of my pot, as i get my moneys worth, and then some!
for everyone who cares so much about taste, dont do this method, it really will bake out all that smell and taste into your house!
for those suffering bad medical conditions, or even recreational users looking to up the potency of their product so that they may get more for their money, or more of an effect, this method is the potency increase method you should be following. unless u decide to make butane honey oil.
anyone whos posted saying it doesnt work, and hasnt tried it, doesnt know if it really does or not.
thanks for letting us know u tried it, IRdamage, why didnt u give us some background and let us know you have tried it and dont like the taste in the first post when you called it bullshit? from your attitude in your first post, you made it look like you were and ignorant fuck just rambling cause you didnt think it would work, letting us know you have tried it makes a big difference in the way people are going to respond to this subject, especialy those who have been doing it and noticing extremely good results for 6 years and are being told its bullshit.
but if u have tried it, and the problem u see with it is taste and not potency, what does that have to do with potency increase by baking?
still, this thread is about solving her mold problem, and my tek is exactly what the doctor ordered. leaving her pot in a bag while its already moldy, would build humidity within the bag, regardless of it soaking up some of the moisture, and as long as moisture exists in the bud, even if it be little amounts, the mold is going to spread! bad idea.
ive said all i want to say, though i have left alot of good points out, i just feel they arent worth arguing over some hardheaded pot newbies. once again, think what u want. im out of this thread.
oh and CV, i already have carpal tunnel in my left arm, fairly bad too.
First off awesome post. Very informative, and I enjoyed the part on baking pot. I did kind of come off as a dick in my first response, this due to the fact that to me it did not seem like the best idea for an ounce, but ya I could have been respectful enough to not call the method bullshit, becuz its not. However over the years I have personally become a perticular type of "cannabis snob" where I will only smoke what I define as nice tasting and nice smelling(taste being through the vapourization and not through cooking), and I was trying to provide the best advice that also adhered to my requirements. No hostility intended. PS> Credits and RIP to OG
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Anarchyz0r
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Re: KIND BUD EMERGENCY! [Re: Irdamage]
#6372585 - 12/14/06 11:33 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Irdamage said: RIP to OG
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GirlNinja
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circularvortex said: And ya, that $40 a gram figure is absolutely rediculous. Throw away the moldy weed and dry out the rest of it with the advice given here. Then, never buy weed from that guy again. His 'friend' ripped you guys off HARD.
If you'd like you can send me a PM before the next time you buy weed and I'll tell you if it's a decent deal or not
Thanks for the concern, no one got ripped. SO YOU GUYS CAN STOP TELLING ME I GOT RIPPED. I know how much weed costs and I never said I paid a dime anyway. =)
I'm just worried about getting the stuff dry, and its drying fine now, so yay. i AM gonna bake a cola or two and see what happens but if it takes away the yummy flavor and smell... i dunno if its worth it
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