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 Reishi Extraction
#6354512 - 12/10/06 02:36 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Perhaps this is the wrong forum for this, but I've come across alot of really huge and wonderfull looking reishi mushrooms, and huge I mean more then a foot across. Locally the extracts go for a ton$$. I've read some stuff on hot water extractions, and some people just say to eat it raw. Anyone have an expierence?
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: snoot]
#6354600 - 12/10/06 02:50 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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maybe butt plugging is in order. 
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: coon]
#6354717 - 12/10/06 03:11 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol, thanks but I'm looking for some serious feedback.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: snoot]
#6354730 - 12/10/06 03:14 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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dont mention it.I am serious.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: coon]
#6354764 - 12/10/06 03:22 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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lol , well reishi raw is pretty indesgitable , you need to do a hot water extraction of some kind. I just need someone with more expierence, I'd almost like to sell some of these. The one I took back with me is more then a foot across and theres bigger ones still out there.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: snoot]
#6354812 - 12/10/06 03:33 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: snoot]
#6354830 - 12/10/06 03:36 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe this should be moved to Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms,
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: snoot]
#6356624 - 12/11/06 01:25 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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What I do, is I get about 12 days worth of reishi (for me thats 48g dry @ 4g day, a smallish-medium dose I believe).
Get the shredded reishi and add some water, enough to cover it and then some, so that they are floating around in the water. Boil that for 2-3 hours. If the water level drops too much add some more water.
After 2-3 hours boiling, strain the liquid off into another pot. Keep the reishi chunks in the original pot and add some water. Boil the reishi chunks again for 1-2 hours and then again (3x in total), each time straining the liquid off.
In the mean time, put the strained liquid onto medium heat and let it reduce in volume.
Wait until the volume is such that it will fit into 12 ice cube trays in your freezer. Pour the liquid into an ice cube tray making 12 evenly sized cubes.
You now have daily doses of reishi ready to be used in whatever way you like. I simply add a cube to a little hot water and then chug it down, followed by some plain water to wash away the bitter flavours.
PS really nice specimen in that pic there!!
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: zee_werp]
#6357140 - 12/11/06 08:14 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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That is the exact information I was looking for!
Thanks.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: snoot]
#6358042 - 12/11/06 02:07 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Has anyone else used other methods to extract reishi, like ethanol? The first alternative that came to mind was the psilocybin/psilocin ethanol extraction tek discussed in advanced. Has anyone ever tried an ethanol extraction? I've never had reishi, but if it is very bitter would it be worth the hassle of the ethanol extraction? I'm guessing not, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that someone tried it.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: phalcon005]
#6358163 - 12/11/06 02:36 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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We soak them out in ETOH for a week before throwing the whole thing into a hot water extraction and reducing. Same essential thing as Zee, except with cheap vodka pre-soak....We also powder ours completely. No chunks.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: curenado]
#6358167 - 12/11/06 02:39 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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<<lol , well reishi raw is pretty indesgitable , you need to do a hot water extraction of some kind.>>
Not really. We ate it raw (dried) for years and only did extracting at the request of a commercial interest. Your body does a better extraction than the lab does! Lab, like art is just an "imitation" of life.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: curenado]
#6358535 - 12/11/06 04:39 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for the infor fella's I really appreciate it, also I'm wondering possibly the best way too get a powder'd extract something I can put into capsule or something.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: snoot]
#6358974 - 12/11/06 06:24 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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hmm, I don't have any real idea on how to get it into a capsule. If you look up capsulation of the psilocybes I'm sure you'll find a ton of information, I know I've bumped into some from time to time when I wasn't even looking for it.
Curenado, do you do the hot water extraction after the ethanol extraction to get rid of the ethanol? If the ethanol extraction could be done easily I would think ethanol would be a wonderful way to store the extract long term in a freezer, and simply do the hot water extraction later when you need to use it. I don't mind the idea of spiking my tea with alcohol, but can think of occasions where I might not want to, which would cause some problems. Also, if you were going to do the hot water extraction anyways, why did you mess with ethanol in the first place? To get bleed as much of the good stuff out as you can?
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: phalcon005]
#6359492 - 12/11/06 08:43 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Got a present for you snoot:
Extraction Method:
1) Ganoderma and Agaricus mushrooms are dried to approximately 5-7%
moisture.
2) Mushrooms are finely powdered to a size of 200 mesh and
below.
3) Dried, powdered Ganoderma Lucidum and ABM mushrooms are then introduced into
approximately 100 times their weight in near boiling water.
4) Water/mushroom mixture is held at 90-95 degrees C for 2
hours minimum.
5) Resulting broth is separated, first through fine
filtering, then through a high-speed centrifuge, …separating all of the solid material from the hot
water soluble components
6) The solution is then cooled to ambient, and a
vacuum drawn and held until the volume is reduced to
…approximately 50%
7) Pure ethyl alcohol is added equal in volume to the
remaining solution
8) The non-alcohol soluble components are thus
precipitated from hot water extract.
9) This precipitate is separated and rinsed in further
alcohol to remove any traces of water.
10) Precipitate is then spray dried and packaged into
autoclaveable plastic bags.
11) Finished Ganoderma & ABM product is autoclaved with steam at 121
degrees C for 2 hours.
12) The ABM and Ganoderma are then packaged in vegetable based gel caps.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: zee_werp]
#6360684 - 12/12/06 08:24 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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<<Curenado, do you do the hot water extraction after the ethanol extraction to get rid of the ethanol?>>
Yup. The heavier H20 forces it's way through the pulp shoving out the ETOH and what it carries into solution. The ETOH evaporates of course, leaving the alco soluables behind in solution.
<<If the ethanol extraction could be done easily I would think ethanol would be a wonderful way to store the extract long term in a freezer, and simply do the hot water extraction later when you need to use it.>>
That is what we do. After a few weeks remaining fruit bodies are powdered and stored in cheap vodka. It's just that usually around here they do not last long enough to require extended storage. Most botanicals can be stored this way long term.
<<I don't mind the idea of spiking my tea with alcohol, but can think of occasions where I might not want to, which would cause some problems.>>
After the completed extraction process you have zero ETOH. 20% alcohol by volume is industry standard for preservation. If you boil it off (or even evaporate it by adding to hot drink and stirring) you get rid of the alcohol before consuming.
The grain flavor however remains and extracts made with uhmmm-"home made" alcohol with have a strong corn after taste. Hence we use cheap vodka unless it's a bit of a "novelty" thing.
Really, our mushroom X's seem to do fine without ETOH preservative and as I said, don't last long enough to go bad.
<<Also, if you were going to do the hot water extraction anyways, why did you mess with ethanol in the first place? To get bleed as much of the good stuff out as you can?>>
Yup. Remember, the body is the "great lab" and extracting mushrooms in it provides water, acid, enzyme and other complex processes. What we do in the kitchen or lab, no matter how effective, still falls a little short.
Also, when you are hot water extracting: do it, squeeze or filter off and do it again with fresh water (just enough to cover some) - make two hot water runs on your pulp or you are throwing out a lot! You can reduce the volume by boiling until you have your dose level calibration.
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Re: Reishi Extraction [Re: curenado]
#6361087 - 12/12/06 10:30 AM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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I love it Curenado! Thanks for clarifying for me. And sorry for jacking your thread snoot, hopefully that helped you as well.
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