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 hypermale
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 Moonflower seeds 
#6205232 - 10/24/06 09:35 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anybody here have any experience with Moonflower seeds? I grew them this summer. They are related to the Morning Glory and the seeds are supposed to contain LSA. The seeds are white and much larger than Morning Glory seeds. Interested in finding out about processing, dosage, etc.
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nightkrawler
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Re: Moonflower seeds [Re: hypermale]
#6205265 - 10/24/06 09:56 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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well i've only heard of moonflower twice, and they were both today, in this thread, and in this one:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6198521/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD
due to the comments in that thread, i'd do some research if i were you. i'm sure there's some info on erowid.
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Paramemetic
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Careful using the general pop terms like "moonflower," because moonflower is also a term for Datura inoxia, which is not containing LSA. Datura is a delirient containing tropane alkaloids atropine, hyoscyamine, and scopolamine. I did find a moonflower in the same family as morning glory, which is Ipomoea alba, but I don't have any references that I can find about LSA in that. "Tripping on moonflower" to me implies Datura. So...that's dangerous.
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 ReoSpeedwagon153
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It's one of those fucked up botanical misnomers. This actually affected kids at a high school I used to attend. They read that chewing "moonflower" seeds would cause a trip similar to LSD. I think one of them ended up in a coma after they chewed several doses of datura seeds. I know this sounds like a scare-tactic drug story, but it actually did happen.
Some morning glories are occasionally referred to as moonflowers. I'm not sure if that variety contains LSA, but a few varieties of them do.
"Moonflower" is also the common name for a solanaceae bush called Datura Inoxia, or Datura Stramonium. It is a powerful hallucinogenic sacrament. It has an ancient history of use and is often associated with witchcraft. All parts of the plant contain the alkaloids, but the seeds are the most highly concentrated. High doses of the plant can be lethal, and moderate doses can be terrifying. It is not recommended for those without lots of experience.
It is pretty important you make a clear distinction between which plants you have. They are VERY different.
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Sunny
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Re: Moonflower seeds [Re: hypermale]
#6206069 - 10/24/06 02:35 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Avoid Atropine poisoning, get rivea corymbosa, or HBWR seeds.
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Brewmaster
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Re: Moonflower seeds [Re: Sunny]
#6206866 - 10/24/06 05:32 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd like to know what exactly it is that you have..
As stated above, the term moonflower is typically used in reference to Datura, or more commonly, brugmansia as the flowers tend to be a bit larger and spacey looking.
Eating the actual flowers of any LSA containing plant is not an efficient way to get an effective dose, so I'm a little confused as it seems you are as well. I think you're referring to rivea corymbosa which contains lsa but I have no idea.
Whatever you have, I wouldn't eat it. LSA sucks and atropine/ scopolamine sucks even more.
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namaste
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Re: Moonflower seeds [Re: Brewmaster]
#6207192 - 10/24/06 07:23 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=3001
If they're light-colored seeds from a vine, it is the Morning Glory variety. If its small dark seeds from a spikey pod then it's datura.
I have grown Moonflowers, the seeds are about the size of a fingernail, much larger than HBWR. Similar to Daturas, the flowers open from dusk to dawn. This link says they do contain enough LSA for entheogenic purposes http://peyote.com/jonstef/morning.htm
I suggest either doing an extraction, or starting out w/ a few and working up, otherwise Flying Saucers and Pearly Gates were two varieties that I enjoyed.
Edited by namaste (10/24/06 09:39 PM)
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Aopocetx
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Re: Moonflower seeds [Re: namaste]
#6207670 - 10/24/06 09:33 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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That link doesn't work.
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Re: Moonflower seeds [Re: Aopocetx]
#6207703 - 10/24/06 09:40 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry about that, it should be fixed now.
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