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Pincushion
And I stillhaven't foundwhat I'm lookingfor....

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Educate a PNW cyan hunting noob. Please....
#6178287 - 10/17/06 10:47 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay.... I'm new to the PNW and to this wonderful pastime of hunting. I'm hellbent on finding some cyan patches this year since I've never had the pleasure of their company before.
I've got some areas that I regularly check that seem to fit the bill (shady, moist & alder chips), but nothing yet. I know the weather isn't cooperating yet here in the PDX area cause no one else is reporting their finds either.
My questions are:
-How does spores get introduced to an area? Do they carry in the wind or does it have to be bought in by man or animal shit?
-Can cyan's appear in new mulch or does it take a few years?
-Do they really appear in the Portland metro area? I certainly know they do in Seattle, but I cant find hard evidence of people finding them here.
Once I find my first patch I'm going to inoculate the whole damn region. I just need that first find. Send me some good luck vibes. Puh-lease!!!!!
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Blek
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Re: Educate a PNW cyan hunting noob. Please.... [Re: Pincushion]
#6178328 - 10/17/06 11:02 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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-How does spores get introduced to an area? Do they carry in the wind or does it have to be bought in by man or animal shit?
Spores are everywhere. You are breathing them right now. They are outside your room, in your house, in the woods.. everywhere. When the right conditions arise the spores will germinate and the mycelial life-cycle starts.
Can cyan's appear in new mulch or does it take a few years? Cyanescens are one of the most aggressive species of mycelium one can find in the PNW. However, you can't expect them to go from ungerminated spores to mushrooms in too short of a period of time. Basically, the spores have to germinate, form hyphae, which form into bigger mycelial networks that expand and colonize a particular food source (woodchips/debris). When a good healthy mycelial mat has formed and the environmental conditions are right, then they will start producing mushrooms. As a very vague, general rule of thumb, this process takes about 6 months to 2 years to form a large patch. Hence, looking in woodchips that were chipped 2 weeks ago will probably not have any mushrooms yet.
-Do they really appear in the Portland metro area? I certainly know they do in Seattle, but I cant find hard evidence of people finding them here.
Although I have never hunted for cyans in the Portland area, I am sure they do grow there. It is still too dry for most patches to fruit. Global warming is real and is the cause for such a late season this year. Next year will probably be even later. It will be here as soon as the rains come though!
Good vibes en route 
Good luck!
When woodland habitats are destroyed by man, saprophytes (primary decomposers) are first on the scene to start cleaning up the debris and recycling it back into the ecosystem. Psilocybe cyanescens are one of many saprophytes. Deciduous woodchips are an excellent food source for Ps. cyanescens.
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CureCat
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Re: Educate a PNW cyan hunting noob. Please.... [Re: Blek]
#6178379 - 10/17/06 11:23 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, Global warming is the suck.
Your best bet is to look for woodchips that are kinda sun bleached and faded to a gray colour. You are less likely to find mushrooms in fresh woodchips.
Yes, spores carry in the air. Though the reason certain species are specific to a location, is because conditions are not optimal for their growth, and spores can only carry so far. So if they cannot spread their fruits, the spores have to travel farther in order to be introduced to a region. For example, if a mushroom grows in California, it is gonna be unlikely that its spores will make it to New York, however, if the spores make their way a bit east, and slowly fruits begin to travel across the border east via spores, eventually the oragnisms might make it to New York. Like taking small steps because they can't jump far.
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canid
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Re: Educate a PNW cyan hunting noob. Please.... [Re: Pincushion]
#6178384 - 10/17/06 11:25 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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when the rain is not comming quite often enough, it helps to look in beds which are sprinkler irrigated and have plant cover sufficient to hold moisture in through much or all of the day.
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Re: Educate a PNW cyan hunting noob. Please.... [Re: canid]
#6178472 - 10/17/06 11:48 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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good luck man... im on the hunt for british cyans so wish me luck too!
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Re: Educate a PNW cyan hunting noob. Please.... [Re: Blek]
#6178492 - 10/17/06 11:51 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Blek said: -How does spores get introduced to an area? Do they carry in the wind or does it have to be bought in by man or animal shit?
Spores are everywhere. You are breathing them right now. They are outside your room, in your house, in the woods.. everywhere. When the right conditions arise the spores will germinate and the mycelial life-cycle starts.
Can cyan's appear in new mulch or does it take a few years? Cyanescens are one of the most aggressive species of mycelium one can find in the PNW. However, you can't expect them to go from ungerminated spores to mushrooms in too short of a period of time. Basically, the spores have to germinate, form hyphae, which form into bigger mycelial networks that expand and colonize a particular food source (woodchips/debris). When a good healthy mycelial mat has formed and the environmental conditions are right, then they will start producing mushrooms. As a very vague, general rule of thumb, this process takes about 6 months to 2 years to form a large patch. Hence, looking in woodchips that were chipped 2 weeks ago will probably not have any mushrooms yet.
-Do they really appear in the Portland metro area? I certainly know they do in Seattle, but I cant find hard evidence of people finding them here.
Although I have never hunted for cyans in the Portland area, I am sure they do grow there. It is still too dry for most patches to fruit. Global warming is real and is the cause for such a late season this year. Next year will probably be even later. It will be here as soon as the rains come though!
Good vibes en route 
Good luck!
When woodland habitats are destroyed by man, saprophytes (primary decomposers) are first on the scene to start cleaning up the debris and recycling it back into the ecosystem. Psilocybe cyanescens are one of many saprophytes. Deciduous woodchips are an excellent food source for Ps. cyanescens.
nice write up!
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Pincushion
And I stillhaven't foundwhat I'm lookingfor....

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Re: Educate a PNW cyan hunting noob. Please.... [Re: Jim]
#6178539 - 10/17/06 12:02 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very nice write up! Thank you for that and the vibes.
Thanks to everyone who replied.
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hEAtOniKgun
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Re: Educate a PNW cyan hunting noob. Please.... [Re: Blek]
#6181959 - 10/18/06 09:27 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah i agree with blek, I live near Seattle, and ive been to Portland during the fall and the climate is no different.
And in my city, its the same situation with me, I have found about 10 places with wood chips and havent found any Cyans, but I find many lookalikes. In fact the only place I have ever found cyans is in one big forest park, growing out of pieces of alder wood on the ground, in dirt areas, under leaves and vegetation on the side of a trail.
So just keep looking, thats what I plan to do, I need to drive up to Seattle here in a week.
Good luck
Edited by hEAtOniKgun (10/18/06 09:31 AM)
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