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InvisibleTheEnd
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First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - UPDATE 10/19-pics
    #6169276 - 10/14/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Alright, first off I just have to thank the Shroomery for such an awesome website and a community of great people that are always willing to help each other out, thank you EVERYONE that ever made a post or thread that I found useful in any way, those of you that ever replied to any of my posts, and those of you especially that were patient enough with me to answer my stupid questions and point me to the right teks or threads. Even to those of you who simply said: "USE THE FUCKING SEARCH BUTTON!", because eventually we all need to learn that rule of thumb :smirk:.

Now for my first grow! :laugh:

I ordered my spore syringe from Spores101. After reading up on the PF-tek and getting in that sort of mind set, I decided to go with the PF strain for my very first growing experience, I figured if I was going to do the PF-tek, why not go PF all the way?! :wink:

I followed the PF-tek as well as I possibly could, only straying far enough away to steam the jars instead of using a pressure cooker. If I had one available to me I would have.

Before I used anything to mix/measure the substrate or anything else, I wiped it down with a 99% rubbing alcohol.

I used a sharpened nail and made 4 holes in each lid (I used the upside down lid method on all of my jars).

I mixed 1/2 cup vermiculite(fairly coarse because it was the only kind I could find, everyone seemed to be sold out), 1/4 cup BRF(prepackaged flour), and 1/4 cup distilled spring water. Mixed it well with a spoon in a bowl and then loosely filled the 1/2 pint wide mouth Kerr jar. I put the lid on and tighted the band on the jar, slammed it gently on my hand to pack down the substrate, then took off the lid, wiped the lip with a paper towel, an filled the remaining space with dry vermiculite(approximately 1/2-5/8 inch depth). Then I put the lid back on(upside down), and tightened the band. Then placed masking tape over all 4 holes in. Then covered the lids with foil. I did this 5 seperate times, one time for each jar, making sure my ingredients were measured and mixed consistantly.

For steaming, I used a large pot with a glass lid(fit fairly snug). I didn't think to use a towel, instead I unwound a coat hanger and wound it around the bottom of the pot, making a sort of screen to set the jars on(I know, GHETTO :rolleyes:). I tend to MacGyver things more often than needed, lol. I filled the pot with approximately 1 inch of distilled spring water, and brought to a boil. I placed the jars inside the pot, put the lid on, and then used a long peice of duct tape over the lid to keep it down as tight as possible. I turned down the heat gradually over about 5 minutes, making sure to keep a gentle boil bot not a rolling boil. I let them boil for an hour and fifteen minutes, then turn off the heat and let them cool in the pot.

Once the jars were cool enough to touch, I removed them from the pot, wiped them down with a dry cloth, and let them sit overnight to cool.

The next day I inoculated them.

I used rubbing alcohol to flame the tip, but I didn't heat it so that the needle got red hot, thus being that I didn't want the needle to get so hot that it started melting the plastic on the syringe. Anyways...I drew in about 1cc of air so that I could shake the syringe to loosen the spores, then pushed it in again until it dripped once. I poured a little bit of 99% rubbing alcohol onto the top of an upside down glass, stuck the needle in the middle of the flame until it started sputtering water out of the tip of the needle, then pushed out until it started to drip. I injected approximately .25cc into each hole in each jar, making sure that each jar got at least 1cc spore solution. In between jars, I wiped the needle clean and inserted it back into its protective cap. I made sure to shake the syringe before I flamed the needle for each jar.

After inoculation was complete, I placed all 5 jars into my half ass incubator, which consisted of a rubbermaid tub covered with a black blanket, and heated with a small desk lamp with a 60w bulb. Again...GHETTO :spank:  I had a digital thermometer on the inside of the tub, and unfortunately the temp fluctuated quite a lot, usually inbetween 68-80F. I wasn't sure how committed I was to this as a hobby yet, or if it was just a one time thing that might not even work out, so I didn't do things totally right...now I know better and have things situated a lot better.

Here are pics of the jars and their progress:

Day-1: Right after inoculation(9/16/06)


Day-4


Day-7


Day-11


Day-16


Day-20


Day-26: Birth-DAY! Dunked the cakes for just under 24 hours in the fridge in a rubbermaid type tupperware container, completely submerged. Then rolled in dry vermiculite and set them on tin foil on top of the perlite. I strained the perlite under tap water before adding it to the FC, then added a little extra water. Theres approximately 1.5 inches of perlite with about 1/2-3/4 inch water.

This was my FC before I modified it.



And this is after I modified it. I got the plexi-glass from Home Depot for just over $2.00(pre-cut) and sealed it with silicone. I got the weather station at Home Depot also for $17.99.

40w fluorescent bulb(looks dim compared to the flash on my camera)



I mist and fan the chamber 3-4 times a day. I have the fluorescent light directly on it for about 6 hours each day, and there is a little bit of indirect light approximately 18 hours each day(I'm up late and sitting on the computer with my desk lamp on :dancing: The temperature fluctuates in between 68-72F, humidity stays at 95%.

I'll keep updating this post with new pics of the progress as I go. Please feel free to post all/any of your input and suggestions! I greatly appreciate all feedback! Thanks again guys, Shroomery kicks SO MUCH ASS!


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Edited by g2_93integra_boy (10/19/06 11:16 PM)

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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6169320 - 10/14/06 03:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Nice Job I love the growth pics its a very nice time line, i have the same temp gage as you lol


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: thongster]
    #6169575 - 10/14/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

oh man...this looks freakin awesome...ypour stuff looks perfect....by the book....we are so on the same path....I'm at day 3 on my colonization, every jar has a little bit of myc visible...and I AM WAITING.....oh how I hate waiting.....but patience.....things are looking good....what temp/humidity where your incubating at? I used rye flour and verm.....I am scared about the dunking....don't want to fuck things up.....but it would seem like that is the thing to do....yea this is my first grow.....and will be the first time I've done shrooms in more than 20 years....holy crap man....am I stoked or what!


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: Tahoe58]
    #6170754 - 10/15/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

For about the first 2 and a half weeks they were incubating in a tub where the temp fluctuated in between about 68-80F, but then I made a TiT incubater and had it at a steady 81-83F. I don't have a weather station in my incubater, just a thermometer, theres not really any need to know the humidity when its just the jars sitting inside(at least thats my thinking). So for the most part, these jars were not incubating at the optimum temperatures, but still colonized fairly well. I guess the PF-tek is suggested for noobs for obvious reasons...if you're actually TRYING to do things right, its hard to fuck up.

I'll be using my next jars for casing with hpoo for my next grow, I want to get better yields than what cakes are capable of, plus I want to continue to expand my knowledge of shroom cultivation. But I'm glad I did the PF-tek, so that I can at least say that I did it this way and know what methods I prefer later down the road.


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6172449 - 10/15/06 04:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

UPDATE!!!

DAY-29: Only 3 days after birthing!

The very first pins showed up this morning! I didn't even notice them when I fanned the FC cause I was so tired, my friend noticed them for me when he did his routine check :dancing: .

But here are the pics! We've counted 4 pins so far.


I named this guy Cartman!


Another view of Cartman






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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6172565 - 10/15/06 05:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Looking Great! Never grown pf strain myself.

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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: andyspof]
    #6172603 - 10/15/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

stil looking great....congrats man....keep the pics coming....I should be able to post pics of my colonization soon as it is picking up real fast.....fuck I am excited!


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: Tahoe58]
    #6173544 - 10/15/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Can anyone estimate for me when these cakes will be be ready to harvest the first flush?


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6175653 - 10/16/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

How many times should I be fanning the FC? IDEALLY? And should I mist the walls each time I fan, or just some of the time? I'd like to do the best that I can at controlling the grow, if I can. So if you guys know what I should be doing any better or differently, PLEASE speak up! Thanks guys/gals.


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6175742 - 10/16/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have heard fanning every hour helps alot, but fanning about 5 times a day would probably be fine (once every couple of hours if you can).


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: Shroomeyfinder]
    #6175898 - 10/16/06 05:15 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Alright cool, thanks. How about misting? Should I mist everytime I fan too? Or is that over doing it?


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6175910 - 10/16/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

This is a Great example of a PF-tek Log..


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #6176472 - 10/16/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Cryogenicz said:
This is a Great example of a PF-tek Log..



Thanks man! I have a mild case of ocd, so that probably helps :wink:.


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6181409 - 10/18/06 06:27 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well I've got a total of about 13 pins/mushies now, nothing great, but their are still a couple that pop up each day, and it makes me really happy whenever I find a new one.

I've had a strange thing happen though. The biggest shroom(the one I named Cartman) has already broken it's veil, and it's only about 1.5" long and .5" thick. Very strange for this to happen so soon, I wasn't expecting this at all. The rest of the pins have been making somewhat slow but steady growth, and no others have broken their veils.

My card reader isn't working correctly right now, so I'm not able to post any pics at the moment, but I'm going to try to use my friends computer and see if his will upload the pics when I wake up.

Started fanning more often(about 8-10 times a day), and raised the temp of the room a bit so that the FC is around 72-75F, and I'm going to make a point of keeping the temps as close to 76F as possible all day to see if I can't get these shrooms to grow a bit bigger before they break their damn veils. Anyways, it's bedtime. Updated pics VERY SOON!


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6181458 - 10/18/06 07:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Great Job, Looks awesome. More pics!! It's coming along so nicely. :grin:


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: Mophead526]
    #6183607 - 10/18/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Used my friends comp to upload these pics cause I still can't get my card reader to work, it might be my computer...but anyways, here is the recent progress over the last 3 days.

DAY-30






DAY-31
Alrighty...well yay for upload limits :rolleyes:  I'll have to update this post tomorrow. Sorry guys.


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: TheEnd]
    #6184191 - 10/18/06 09:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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g2_93integra_boy said:
Alright cool, thanks. How about misting? Should I mist everytime I fan too? Or is that over doing it?




Im new to cultivation too but ya I think misting after fanning them is probably good, because fanning causes evaporation.


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: Shroomeyfinder]
    #6184232 - 10/18/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

don't mist pins directly, it will cause them to abort

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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: lil_demented]
    #6184365 - 10/18/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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don't mist pins directly, it will cause them to abort





Not true. Gentle misting will not cause pins to abort. In fact, failing to mist will limit your yields. Remember, mushrooms love water!


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Re: First Grow log - PF-Tek w/PF strain - PICS [Re: dog]
    #6184530 - 10/18/06 10:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've been misting straight into the air about 2 feet about the cakes with a very fine mist and letting it gently fall, and also misting the sides of the FC. The mushies seem to like the more frequent mistings and fanning, and keeping the temps around 75F has boosted their growth rate. I'll update again tomorrow with the rest of the pics.


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